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How powerful do you think Luke will be in episode VIII? (and IX)

Stronger than Vader. (Probably) stronger than Sidious, too.

Stronger than Vader, hopefully stronger than Sidious.

Inb4 Kanan >

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Stronger than Vader, hopefully stronger than Sidious.

About Legends Dooku level.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Stronger than Vader, hopefully stronger than Sidious.

God-like, yeah.

> Yoda

You guys overestimate canon.

Well he has the near potential of Anakin and he's been mastering the ways of the Force for 30+ years, but without being burnt to a crisp like what dented Ani's Potential. So it's only logical really.

He has near the potential of Anakin in Legends not canon.

Qui Gon mastered the ways of the Force for about 30 years.

You guys overestimate canon.

He's gonna be the new Yoda. Probably better I think

Originally posted by Geistalt
Stronger than Vader. (Probably) stronger than Sidious, too.
Hopefully

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He has near the potential of Anakin in Legends not canon.

Qui Gon mastered the ways of the Force for about 30 years.

You guys overestimate canon.

"Luke you can destroy the Emperor. He has foreseen this" ESB- Canon

In the audio commentary to the ESB Lightsabers fight Lucas states Vader has lost a load of potential but Luke still has that.- Again Canon.


Where was Qui-Gon ever implied to have the potential to surpass Sidious?

George Lucas's statements are still considered canon? Because I'm pretty sure he was thrown to the side by Disney like the dirty rag he is.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
George Lucas's statements are still considered canon?


Unless contradicted I'd say yes. If you buy the latest version of the OT it's still Lucas's commentary on there.

At the very least it's as valid as Filoni's Rebels commentary or Abrams TFA commentary.

If they follow Lucas' general vision for what Luke was to become, he will be God-like yeah. Or whatever that looks like within the scope of the Canonverse.

And frankly that's the impression I got from TFA.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Unless contradicted I'd say yes. If you buy the latest version of the OT it's still Lucas's commentary on there.

At the very least it's as valid as Filoni's Rebels commentary or Abrams TFA commentary.

Not valid at all then.

The validity of Lucas' statement is hardly relevant to the path Disney will or will not take in regards to Luke, which is to say, whatever they want.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The validity of Lucas' statement is hardly relevant to the path Disney will or will not take in regards to Luke, which is to say, whatever they want.

And that's fine. I'm just saying there's no basis for him being powerful even in comparison to Legends levels except him looking cool. I estimate around Legends Dooku level.

Er okay? Frankly I don't think you've properly articulated why Luke won't be better than the likes of Sidious, Vader or Yoda at all.

Let alone Dooku

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Er okay? Frankly I don't think you've properly articulated why Luke won't be better than the likes of Sidious, Vader or Yoda at all.

Because of how scaled back they've shown Force users to be in the new movies.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Because of how scaled back they've shown Force users to be in the new movies.

Kylo Ren and Rey? Really? Luke's obviously far more powerful than either.

They do seem to be shooting for the sparse minimalism of the OT. Even Pablo Hidalgo said Maul would beat Kylo's candy ass.

Yes but I really doubt they're going to portray Luke or Snoke in a manner that depicts them as Force gods. That's not what the movies have done so far and I don't think it's what they will do.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
They do seem to be shooting for the sparse minimalism of the OT. Even Pablo Hidalgo said Maul would beat Kylo's candy ass.

Really? :P That's pretty nifty tbh.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Because of how scaled back they've shown Force users to be in the new movies. Relative to other entries into Canon? They haven't scaled back anything.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yes but I really doubt they're going to portray Luke or Snoke in a manner that depicts them as Force gods. That's not what the movies have done so far and I don't think it's what they will do.

They won't make him NJO+ Luke, but there will probably be some supplementary literature that will. It's typically difficult to get god-tier feats in visual mediums anyway.

They'll lay the ground work for it yeah, but within the scope of on-screen SW I'm expecting him to be beyond anything we've seen.

In movies? Maybe. In Legends? Not beyond Dooku level.

Who cares about Legends. He'd still ragdoll Canon Dooku.

Nah.

Most powerful force user in Disney canon.

Originally posted by playa1258
Most powerful force user in Disney canon. Prepare to fear Snoke, girl.

Pretty obvious you fear Luke.

Originally posted by playa1258
Pretty obvious you fear Luke. Nah, you clearly worship the guy who hides from his problems. You admire a coward.

Luke is probably more powerful than Snoke, we'll see though

Originally posted by Rebel95
Luke is probably more powerful than Snoke, we'll see though Oh we shall see.

now that they have the tech they'd better make Luke a ****in badass with a saber and th Force. I give the OT a pass because they didn't have that kind of special effects back in those days but theres no excuse now, especially if they can make a 80 year old Christopher Lee into a ninja.