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As the title says. I think Kylo will beat Rey in a duel this time. I'd say Kylo will be slightly above Maul level and Rey will be around Ventress level

Do you think the SJW at Disney would allow Rey to lose?

Kylo will make it to Vader level probably. Rey will likely be above that by virtue of being a complete Mary Sue.

Pretty low level.

Rey will probably be able to move planets by the end of the first trilogy. Kylo will continue to suck.

Kylo's already pretty high up due to his hype, demonstrated mastery and implied raw power. I'd imagine he'll be at least Maul level once we get more exposure.

Originally posted by MythLord
Kylo's already pretty high up due to his hype, demonstrated mastery and implied raw power. I'd imagine he'll be at least Maul level once we get more exposure.

This + I think he'll be rivaling Vader by the end of episode VIII.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
This + I think he'll be rivaling Vader by the end of episode VIII.


If he does, then he will overthrow Snoke.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If he does, then he will overthrow Snoke.

Doubt it, Snoke is supposed to be the new emperor but Kylo could have a chance to overthrow him contrary to Vader

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Doubt it, Snoke is supposed to be the new emperor but Kylo could have a chance to overthrow him contrary to Vader

He's the new villain in charge in this new sequel era. That doesn't make him Palpatine's equal.

Kylo was afraid he'd never be as strong as Darth Vader. He had no such worries about not surpassing Snoke though.


It's all going to be about Kylo and Rey going forward. Snoke's just filling a role needed for Kylo to have converted to the dark side then to complete his dark side training.

"Never be as strong as Vader" can be interpreted in multiple ways, not necessarely as strength in the Force.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
"Never be as strong as Vader" can be interpreted in multiple ways, not necessarely as strength in the Force.


Most likely interpretation is strength in the dark side of the Force.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
"Never be as strong as Vader" can be interpreted in multiple ways, not necessarely as strength in the Force.


Exactly. D. Thor foolishly believes his own lens is the only way to interpret words. He's close minded and rather ignorant in general with his opinions on anything Star Wars related. He's a rather poorly informed individual.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Most likely interpretation is strength in the dark side of the Force. Nah. Kylo will surpass Vader. Mark my words, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. Kylo will surpass Vader. Mark my words, boy.
Do you think he'll surpass maul, quan?

Ren will surpass Maul no question. Both him and Rey will both be far inferior to Luke though.

Ren already surpassed Vader in evil.

Originally posted by Trocity
Ren already surpassed Vader in evil. Look at you stealing my point and trying to pass this off as your own.

Ps. I am influencing the board.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Do you think he'll surpass maul, quan? I would rather not speculate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. Kylo will surpass Vader. Mark my words, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would rather not speculate.



You say you don't want to speculate, yet you speculate that Kylo will surpass Vader. ....What?

Originally posted by Zenwolf


You say you don't want to speculate, yet you speculate that Kylo will surpass Vader. ....What? I already did and I won't keep speculating. A quan has his limits.

Kylo will surpass Vader and Rey will surpass Luke tbh. In VIII, Kylo will win but in IX, Rey will.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would rather not speculate.
lol

at this rate Rey > Father lol

Rey surpasses look and they will be going full Mary Sue and SJW.

Look ?

Beyond powerful.

Originally posted by Zenwolf


You say you don't want to speculate, yet you speculate that Kylo will surpass Vader. ....What?


What you have to learn about Quanchi is, he really doesn't have a clue what he's saying half the time.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What you have to learn about Quanchi is, he really doesn't have a clue what he's saying half the time. Based on ?

Originally posted by Petrus
Kylo will surpass Vader

He already has, in evil.

Kylo Ren may be the greatest Star Wars villain of all time, and Snoke has surpassed Palpatine. Mark my words.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look ?

Obviously Luke.

I want to see Ren block a saber strike with his hand.

Originally posted by playa1258
Obviously Luke. Meltdown ?

Kylo probably will be solidly more powerful considering he finished his training under Soke while also commiting fully to the Dark Side of the Force.

Can't wait to see once episode 8 airs people try to jump on my Snoke and Ren ship. I predicted this since the beginning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. Kylo will surpass Vader. Mark my words, boy.

Being that Quan is almost always wrong... we know this won't be true

I hate Quan and I think he's right on this tbh. Kylo will eventually surpass his grandfather, and Rey will be either Luke level or really close.

Quan could be a little less of a jerk about it though.

Originally posted by Petrus
I hate Quan and I think he's right on this tbh. Kylo will eventually surpass his grandfather, and Rey will be either Luke level or really close.


It's possible sure. As long as we recognize that'll be some massive achievement for him to pull off, and that he's probably going to be overthrowing Snoke at that point.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's possible sure. As long as we recognize that'll be some massive achievement for him to pull off, and that he's probably going to be overthrowing Snoke at that point.

Yeah, it'll indeed be a massive achievement. And the overthrowing Snoke comment, I honestly don't know. It depends on how powerful you think they're gonna make Snoke tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Meltdown ?

No one is melting down.

Rey will only reach Luke level is she is indeed a chosen one like rumors suggest.

Originally posted by Petrus
Yeah, it'll indeed be a massive achievement. And the overthrowing Snoke comment, I honestly don't know. It depends on how powerful you think they're gonna make Snoke tbh.


Probably around Vader level Imo. I don't see him being Palpatine level, because then he wouldn't have been hiding or under Palpatine's rule through the OT.

I also think this is about Ren and Rey's journey and not Luke and Snoke's. So if Luke doesn't take Snoke out, I'm betting Kylo will.

I highly doubt Luke and Snoke will make it to the end of this Trilogy.

Or maybe Rey will take out Snoke.

If Snoke is Vader level than he is wise to be afraid of Luke.

^
LOL

One thing I don't understand is why exactly did he plan on sending a Kylo Ren that hadn't completed his training searching around the galaxy for Luke, someone who Snoke fears and should solidly be above Vader, the guy Kylo idolizes and still is not near his level.

^ Well he was sending the whole FO after him. Or just trying to locate him so they could zap him with Starkiller Base. And Kylo had the best abilities to find him.

Originally posted by playa1258
No one is melting down. You freaked out. I hope it's over, emotional boy.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Probably around Vader level Imo. I don't see him being Palpatine level, because then he wouldn't have been hiding or under Palpatine's rule through the OT.

I also think this is about Ren and Rey's journey and not Luke and Snoke's. So if Luke doesn't take Snoke out, I'm betting Kylo will.

I highly doubt Luke and Snoke will make it to the end of this Trilogy. What you say makes no sense under any far reaching depths of the fanboyism for your Ot characters.

Palpatine had a galactic empire and even Yoda hid because he wasn't vulnerable outside that one assassination attempt in rots.

You doubt Snoke and Kyko who will be greater than Vader and Palpatine. Mark my words. Starkiller already shits on the Death Stars and we are only one film in.