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Who is helped more in their comic book more?

DC having a HH be their story telling saviour, (spectre anyone?) and a street leveller (penguin, two face lol) hanging with HH's lol.
How would that work without a company funded PIS?

Nothing else in comics comes close

Surfer

Batman.
At the power levels Superman fights at, who's to say whats realistic besides the writer?
With Batman being more grounded in RW physics its easier to say, "that would never actually work" though again, it does, because the writer says so.

Hulk SMAAAAAAAASH

Batman, easily.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Hulk SMAAAAAAAASH

Do you really compare Hulk to these two in pis?

Superman easily

Originally posted by golem370
Who is helped more in their comic book more?

Tie. If you're asking who has PIS helping them beat Superman or Batman, they've both suffered equally from PIS laden losses..

Originally posted by golem370
Do you really compare Hulk to these two in pis?
Well I'd say Batman has CIS going for him, just like hulk in most cases.
Because he's Batman.

Superman on the other hand, enjoys pure PIS on most occasions.


So, superman wins.

Superman's opponents generally enjoy the strongest PIS in comics. For them to be able to stand even a second against Superman... /facepalm

Originally posted by Magnon
Superman's opponents generally enjoy the strongest PIS in comics. For them to be able to stand even a second against Superman... /facepalm Yeah, Superman should be able to squash Darkseid, Black Adam, Mongul, Doomsday, helspont like a bug if he can move planets.




But what about cyborg superman? He is half superman.

Originally posted by golem370
Who is helped more in their comic book more?

Batman is helped a lot more by it. With Superman PIS is a hindrance to him, it limits him, makes him not necessarily behave in a way that is smart or logical. With Batman it's the exact opposite.

In other words, Superman is so awesome they need to try to handicap him a bit, and Batman is so very very shitty that he needs all the love and tender care one can get.

I always throught galaxy busters should be above skyfather unless it is a very small galaxy.

Originally posted by Surtur
Batman is helped a lot more by it. With Superman PIS is a hindrance to him, it limits him, makes him not necessarily behave in a way that is smart or logical. With Batman it's the exact opposite.

In other words, Superman is so awesome they need to try to handicap him a bit, and Batman is so very very shitty that he needs all the love and tender care one can get.
Well up until you tried to be funny, you made some good points, which is impressive as you usually dont get to the good points part.
Bravo, Your Majesty.

This is how PIS ridden Batsy is...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman, easily. Him being Batman alone is already superhuman.

As I've said before:

Imagine a celebrity famous for doing nothing except being a rich heir to a fortune, and a party animal. In effect, Paris Hilton.

Now imagine that person also has the business smarts of a Bill Gates.

So far, so good. Ashton Kutcher is like this, after all.

Now Paris Hilton, is also a master of 127 different martial arts. Something that some people take decades just to master one or two.

Ninja Paris Hilton, also holds multiple degrees in engineering, forensic sciences, applied mechanics etc etc etc. And is able to take others' work apart, not just Earth tech, but also Kryptonian/Thanagarian/Martian/Apokolipton etc tech, and understand it.

Ninja Paris, PhDx10, ALSO speaks five or six different languages, fluently, fluently enough she could easily disguise herself (another skill she's learnt, btw), and blend in anywhere in the world.

All by the age of 35.

And is also a master escape artist.

And is an Olympic level gymnast, powerlifter, and is pretty decent and sprinting AND marathons.

And can KO horses.

At least Superman is....an alien, so it all gets hand woven away. But Bats is meant to be human, lol.

When its done in Batman books its PLOT INDUCED SMARTNESS!!!!!!!

Yeah, and though like Surtur said, it works in opposite ways for them, its more prevalent with Bats.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well up until you tried to be funny, you made some good points, which is impressive as you usually dont get to the good points part.
Bravo, Your Majesty.

There is nothing funny about it, Supermans greatness needs to be toned down because of how awesome he is. Meanwhile Batman could literally be killed by tripping and falling down a flight of stairs if he landed at the wrong angle.

Originally posted by tkitna
Superman easily

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is how PIS ridden Batsy is...



At least Superman is....an alien, so it all gets hand woven away. But Bats is meant to be human, lol.

And on top of all that, the best detective since Sherlock.

"In comics", but you don't include Marvel guys like Wolverine... Riiight.

Wolverine how?

Originally posted by -Pr-
"In comics", but you don't include Marvel guys like Wolverine... Riiight.

Hey, be nice.

You're the one asking for Creed's stuff just because your GF needs it, lol.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"In comics", but you don't include Marvel guys like Wolverine... Riiight. Batman started a detective, wolverine started fighting the hulk. Wolverine still fights the Hulk.
Batman fights along side a PIS machine and the justice league, AND holds his own.

Gotham should be the safest place in existence, but Joker, Bane etc

Originally posted by golem370
Wolverine how?

The man is literally a walking debuff. Everyone around him that has to fight him starts to lose durability/speed/ability, unless they're a street leveller.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, be nice.

You're the one asking for Creed's stuff just because your GF needs it, lol.

How did you know?

Originally posted by emu
Batman started a detective, wolverine started fighting the hulk. Wolverine still fights the Hulk.
Batman fights along side a PIS machine and the justice league, AND holds his own.

Gotham should be the safest place in existence, but Joker, Bane etc

I'm not saying Batman isn't loaded with PIS. Superman is in a weird situation in that regard too, but singling those two out is still wrong, imo. There are plenty of people you could put right beside them.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The man is literally a walking debuff. Everyone around him that has to fight him starts to lose durability/speed/ability, unless they're a street leveller.



How did you know?



I'm not saying Batman isn't loaded with PIS. Superman is in a weird situation in that regard too, but singling those two out is still wrong, imo. There are plenty of people you could put right beside them. Maybe, but not in a Superman vs Batman thread

^^^Good point.

Originally posted by emu
Maybe, but not in a Superman vs Batman thread

The OP was exactly what I was commenting on, though.

i'd say superman. after he has become so fast and so strong its a wonder that there is any suffering on the planet of earth still. when new 52'ed him they brought him back but they didn't change bats as much. so I think batsy in recent time has less PIS.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
And on top of all that, the best detective since Sherlock.

Exactly. The very idea of Batman is PIS.