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Sabers
Force
Allout

EDIT: Ahsoka Tano (not Tank, lol)

I'd give sabers to Kenobi, barely
Force- not sure
All out- not sure

She didn't do anything Obi Wan couldn't replicate.

Kenobi, obviously.
Good fight, nonethless.

The only reason I believe she has a good chance is because of her showing against Vader

Make it Old Ben for fairness.

Originally posted by Rebel95
The only reason I believe she has a good chance is because of her showing against Vader

Nothing Obi Wan couldn't replicate. She was semi ragdolled.

Kenobi's stated to be a superior swordsman to ANH Vader.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Kenobi's stated to be a superior swordsman to ANH Vader.
Where?

Fightsaber states that Darth Vader couldn't penetrate Old Ben's lightsaber defenses.

Another work states that Darth Vader didn't become the greatest lightsaber master in the galaxy until Old Ben's death.

Considering the fact that Episode III Obi-Wan Kenobi is significantly superior to Old Ben with a blade, he's better than Darth Vader too.

Obi wan

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Another work states that Darth Vader didn't become the greatest lightsaber master in the galaxy until Old Ben's death.

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SOURCE?!

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
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SOURCE?!
https://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/17/73/92/12/kenobi11.png

Source dat shit bro. Don't be like those RT makers who post scans without citing the sources.

More proof that Vader > Palpatine as a Swordsmaster

Originally posted by Darth Thor
More proof that Vader > Palpatine as a Swordsmaster
While I bet you're joking, I should clarify Palpatine and Yoda weren't swordmasters at this point.

Yoda didn't carry one, and there's no evidence Palpatine kept his lightsaber following TFU.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/17/73/92/12/kenobi11.png

Impressive accolade for Ben though that doesn't place him above him.

Right, but it puts him as Vader's equal (or superior) as a technical duelist.

Refer to my point that Ben decreased significantly since Episode III Obi-Wan.

That's only if you take the quote to mean lightsaber combat as a whole rather then just technical skill. And that doesn't take into account Obi Wan having improved augmentation due to growth in the Force and thus becoming a superior lightsaber combatant in this regard ( though not necessarily on the whole ).

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
That's only if you take the quote to mean lightsaber combat as a whole rather then just technical skill. And that doesn't take into account Obi Wan having improved augmentation due to growth in the Force and thus becoming a superior lightsaber combatant in this regard ( though not necessarily on the whole ).
I assume you mean the other way around, since I suggested it meant technical skill.

That being established, Ben's greater Force abilities (which are up for debate, in any case) still had him labeled as a "shadow of his former self" compared to Obi-Wan Kenobi in regards to combat, so I disagree.

No, I agree that it refers to technical skill. Must have misread.

In regards to combat as a whole? Mind quoting me the passage?

Ahsoka stomps:

https://i.imgur.com/jCU50ts.gifv

She also fought Maul evenly

Kenobi

Originally posted by Darth Thor
More proof that Vader > Palpatine as a Swordsmaster




Sheev fans BTFO

Sabers: Kenobi 6-7/10
Force: While I'd like to give Tano the edge, there are too few showings to derive this from. She has more potential than Kenobi imo.
All-Out: Kenobi 7-8/10

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ahsoka stomps:

https://i.imgur.com/jCU50ts.gifv WTF LOL

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Fightsaber states that Darth Vader couldn't penetrate Old Ben's lightsaber defenses.

Another work states that Darth Vader didn't become the greatest lightsaber master in the galaxy until Old Ben's death.

Considering the fact that Episode III Obi-Wan Kenobi is significantly superior to Old Ben with a blade, he's better than Darth Vader too.
Canon =/= Legends :/

I just realized that accolade means Dooku and Anakin are canonically > Vader as swordsmasters...

I love it!

Originally posted by MythLord
I just realized that accolade means Dooku and Anakin are canonically > Vader as swordsmasters...

I love it!
Just above ANH Vade...WAIT! YOU'RE SCREWED, SYN!

Originally posted by MythLord
I just realized that accolade means Dooku and Anakin are canonically > Vader as swordsmasters...

I love it!

In Legends of course, doubt anyone was arguing against that.

So Kenobi > Vader > Sidious? Lol.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
WTF LOL

Originally posted by Beniboybling
So Kenobi > Vader > Sidious? Lol.

There are also other sources which confirm that Vader could've won eventually and by that time Sidious didn't carry a lightsaber so he technically didn't count in this equation.

Ant's quote is good but doesn't preclude Ben being equal with Vader, which is suggested by other sources.

Legends Obi-Wan wins; Canon Obi-Wan loses.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Ant's quote is good but doesn't preclude Ben being equal with Vader, which is suggested by other sources.

How about 'Death Star' claiming Vader is Kenobi's better IIRC?

Where does it say that? And it's from Vader's perspective.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Where does it say that? And it's from Vader's perspective.

Thought that it mentioned how Anakin was a better fighter back then and now Vader to or something along those lines. Could be wrong though,

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
There are also other sources which confirm that Vader could've won eventually and by that time Sidious didn't carry a lightsaber so he technically didn't count in this equation. Even if that were the case, so what?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Even if that were the case, so what?

That means Vader isn't > Sidious as a duelist since the latter wasn't considered a duelist at that time.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/17/73/92/12/kenobi11.png
Where is this from?

Not sure. It's not Fightsaber, that's for sure.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Thought that it mentioned how Anakin was a better fighter back then and now Vader to or something along those lines. Could be wrong though,

Again, Vader's perspective.

Yeah, it's not. Don't know why I said that.

Looks like TCSWE to me, but it could be something else.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Where is this from?
@Ant

Lightsaber Dueling Pack.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lightsaber Dueling Pack.
Interesting. Do you take that as a pretty valid source?

I'd say so. The entire work was dedicated to examining and assessing Darth Vader's lightsaber abilities, so I see no reason not to.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightsaber-Duelling-Pack-Star-Wars/dp/0874310881

Is this it?

Yes.