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Thor
Superman
Silver Surfer
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman

Who comes in order

1. Footrace
2. Flight Race
3. Reaction Speed

Would you look at that.

It's ****ing superman in all of them.

Superman wrecks all of them.

thor and surfer stomp the second round if this isnt new 52 supes

but post crisis doesnt have the flight speed feats to compare with them.

atleast actual QUANTIFIABLE feats

1. Superman-Gold
Wonder Woman-Silver
Captain Marvel-Bronze

2. Thor-Gold
Silver Surfer-Silver
Superman-Bronze

3. Silver Surfer-Gold
Wonder Woman-Silver
Superman-Bronze

Originally posted by ghostman
thor and surfer stomp the second round if this isnt new 52 supes

but post crisis doesnt have the flight speed feats to compare with them.

atleast actual QUANTIFIABLE feats
Of course he does.

Originally posted by riv6672
1. Superman-Gold
Wonder Woman-Silver
Captain Marvel-Bronze

2. Thor-Gold
Silver Surfer-Silver
Superman-Bronze

3. Silver Surfer-Gold
Wonder Woman-Silver
Superman-Bronze
Idiot.

Surfer isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in reaction speed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he does.


Idiot.

Surfer isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in reaction speed.


show me a feat as quantifiable and as comparable as surfers light years in seconds feat, from post crisis supes. no signal watch from jimmy olsen and him coming in a unspecified time. actually quantifiable

Suprman
Surfer
Superman

Originally posted by abhilegend
Idiot.
Superman Worshipper.
http://kalel.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1376390_598429923546715_1924773509_n.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
Superman Worshipper.
http://kalel.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1376390_598429923546715_1924773509_n.jpg


thats abhi.........?

Originally posted by ghostman
show me a feat as quantifiable and as comparable as surfers light years in seconds feat, from post crisis supes. no signal watch from jimmy olsen and him coming in a unspecified time. actually quantifiable
Better.

Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton which is sector 2813). In moments.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

It's all relative though. Green Lanterns have crossed entire universe in hours which Surfer has never done. Yet, they are slower than Superman and Flash. To be faster than Superman you need to be Barry Allen or Wally West and none of these characters are at that level.

Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed.

Originally posted by riv6672
Superman Worshipper.
http://kalel.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1376390_598429923546715_1924773509_n.jpg
Worthless troll.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed. Not true. He can choose to but it's not necessary

Surfer going for the gauntlet Thanos had wasn't hyperspace facilitated, and he crossed a light year in the moment it takes a humanoid to raise and slam their fist down.

Edit* He's stayed within normal space and moved so fast he took Nova (Raye) back in time and once took Thor out of a plane of reality to get back to his native one with sheer speed

Originally posted by abhilegend
Better.

Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton which is sector 2813). In moments.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

It's all relative though. Green Lanterns have crossed entire universe in hours which Surfer has never done. Yet, they are slower than Superman and Flash. To be faster than Superman you need to be Barry Allen or Wally West and none of these characters are at that level.

Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed.


thats..... not quantifiable dude, no time or distance was ever established.

Superman


Surfer by far

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not true. He can choose to but it's not necessary


In past maybe. In current comics, he almost never goes beyond lightspeed without going in hyperspace.

Yes, and that's nothing compared to the speed needed to take SBP from Oa to krypton.

And Hyperspace as an idea wasn't that popular back then.

First, it was the added speed of Nova and Surfer. And laws of time travel are different in DC and Marvel. In DC you have to enter speed force to travel through time and that needs a connection with speed force.

And in both examples Surfer left the main reality after exceeding speed of light.

Originally posted by ghostman
thats..... not quantifiable dude, no time or distance was ever established.
Yeah, because it took hours and Oa is just near krypton.

Don't be a Carver.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, because it took hours and Oa is just near krypton.

Don't be a Carver.


im not, im just trying to get an understanding as to why you think thats better than surfers and quantifiable . i have no doubt that its ftl dude, but come on quantifiable? not even close man. im sure you have something similar for post crisis supes?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's all relative though. Green Lanterns have crossed entire universe in hours which Surfer has never done. Space bends when he moves too fast when crossing the same distance, that's why.http://i67.tinypic.com/14vo5ls.jpg

Crosses a universe in minutes (or one arguably)

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_universecrossing_zpsvvzvcpnl.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
Superman Worshipper.
http://kalel.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1376390_598429923546715_1924773509_n.jpg if someone posted a picture you , the race card would be out straight away wanting them banned.

Originally posted by ghostman
im not, im just trying to get an understanding as to why you think thats better than surfers and quantifiable . i have no doubt that its ftl dude, but come on quantifiable? not even close man. im sure you have something similar for post crisis supes?
Because Oa is at the centre of universe and krypton is at the edge of the known cosmos. The distance is among trillions of lightyears.

You're just too hung on the word quantifiable. Just because he has travelled lightyears in moments (which in itself is not quantifiable as no measure of moments is given), doesn't makes it faster than traveling across the universe just because no time-frame is given.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Space bends when he moves too fast when crossing the same distance, that's why.http://i67.tinypic.com/14vo5ls.jpg


Using wormholes.

Not clear if he flew there or used a wormhole as per usual.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Oa is at the centre of universe and krypton is at the edge of the known cosmos. The distance is among trillions of lightyears.

You're just too hung on the word quantifiable. Just because he has travelled lightyears in moments (which in itself is not quantifiable as no measure of moments is given), doesn't makes it faster than traveling across the universe just because no time-frame is given.

Lol.

He's not saying anyone's is worse or better.

He's just saying it's not quantifiable. As no quantity was given. Which is true.

So Surfer's feat is unquantifiable too. How many moments? How many lightyears?

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_wrgrg_zpspxlcdcqb.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_yu_zpshp2nigiu.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_rgh_zpsj4mahoer.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_yuiyt_zpsvnovkhfk.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Oa is at the centre of universe and krypton is at the edge of the known cosmos. The distance is among trillions of lightyears.

Small correction. The real life universe, which ought to be a pretty good gauge of the comic universe in size, is 81 billion light years across. So the radius from the center to the very furthest part, assuming Krypton were there, would be 40.5 billion light years, not trillions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

Originally posted by Cogito
Small correction. The real life universe, which ought to be a pretty good gauge of the comic universe in size, is 81 billion light years across. So the radius from the center to the very furthest part, assuming Krypton were there, would be 40.5 billion light years, not trillions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
Well duh. Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_wrgrg_zpspxlcdcqb.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_yu_zpshp2nigiu.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_rgh_zpsj4mahoer.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_yuiyt_zpsvnovkhfk.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/andromedagalaxyship.jpg

Casually flying to the edge of Andromeda galaxy 2.2 million lightyears away and bringing a ship back to his planet.

Blitzing missiles that can blitz and sterilize entire universes.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/blitzrealityblitzing1.jpg


http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/blitzrealityblitzing2.jpg



Your turn.

1st one is a distance related incident with no time given, well that's not entirely true:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2n73yb5.jpg

Yikes...

The second scan isn't related to anything we're talking about (?)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
1st one is a distance related incident with no time given, well that's not entirely true:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2n73yb5.jpg

Yikes...

The second scan isn't related to anything we're talking about (?)
The distress signal coming from 2.2 million lightyears and coming in range to Nasa had nothing to do with time lag, eh?

The second one is related to speed, Superman can blitz missiles built by Monitors to blitz entire universes.

#Gotem

by that logic it would have taken the signal 2.2 million years to get to Superman and he said himself that the automatic controls were damaged so that means the once living characters activated the signal. Comics of course tend to ignore how signals travel when superheroes need to hear them so unless you want to admit Superman's slower than the same signal....what are we talking about? He was admittedly late to rescue them. Other than him saying they were"long dead" there is no time to even figure out a speed, all you can say is he wasn't there when he should have been

The second scan about the bombs isn't relevant. "Reality-blitzing"? What does that even mean?

Originally posted by ghostman
thats abhi.........?
Nah.
If it was he'd be humping the statue's leg.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
by that logic it would have taken the signal 2.2 million years to get to Superman and he said himself that the automatic controls were damaged so that means the once living characters activated the signal. Comics of course tend to ignore how signals travel when superheroes need to hear them so unless you want to admit Superman's slower than the same signal....what are we talking about? He was admittedly late to rescue them. Other than him saying they were"long dead" there is no time to even figure out a speed, all you can say is he wasn't there when he should have been

The second scan about the bombs isn't relevant. "Reality-blitzing"? What does that even mean?
That's some jargon right there. But no, a time-frame is given in the comic for how much he was gone.

And he went to Circunus galaxy as well which is 13 million lightyears away. And returned.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16071136/Maelstrom_01_Page_006.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16071137/Maelstrom_01_Page_007.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981065/Maelstrom_01_Page_008.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981066/Maelstrom_01_Page_009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981068/Maelstrom_01_Page_010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981069/Maelstrom_01_Page_011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981070/Maelstrom_01_Page_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15981071/Maelstrom_01_Page_013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16071148/Maelstrom_01_Page_014.jpg.html

He was gone for so long as Maelstrom appeared, fought Supergirl and he appeared again.

Also even Superboy and Supergirl can fly to the edge of the universe in the middle of a sentence.

http://i.imgur.com/M5tLnz7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dnY2Z6C.jpg

And in case of Supergirl, she has done it twice.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16076089_Superman_Batman_25-01.JPG http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16076090_Superman_Batman_25-0203.JPG

Don't come up with puny feats of speed like traveling lightyears in moments.

Reality blitzing means exactly what it says. The missiles would've sterilized entire universes after blitzing them.

Originally posted by riv6672
Nah.
If it was he'd be humping the statue's leg.
Keep barking troll. This is a new low for even you.

Resorting to racist remarks though? What else is expected from someone like you?

Whats racist about rivs comment?

And black people cant be racist, my gender studies professor told me so.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Whats racist about rivs comment?

And black people cant be racist, my gender studies professor told me so.

racism is based in systemic/institutional oppression and since there is no sociopolitical infrastructure working against white people there is no racism against whites. prejudice you mean? absolutely everyone is prejudice.


dont make a fool of yourself kid.

Originally posted by ghostman
since there is no sociopolitical infrastructure working against white people there is no racism against whites.

The world is larger than just the Western world, gaijin.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The world is larger than just the Western world, gaijin.


and yet it has the greatest influence over the sum total of the world. it goes far deeper than you can ever understand. don't underestimate the media, its the most powerful weapon in the world, it can shape the way the world thinks and acts.

Originally posted by ghostman
and yet it has the greatest influence over the sum total of the world. it goes far deeper than you can ever understand. don't underestimate the media, its the most powerful weapon in the world, it can shape the way the world thinks and acts.

Not quite the point.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not quite the point.

i see what you're getting at, but you're not really making a point, you seem to think prejudice is the same as racism, but that's not the case. far from it in fact.

but anyway, this is not the time nor the place. just had to correct an ignorant person.


post more speed feats for heralds pls

Originally posted by abhilegend
Inadmissible

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Inadmissible
Right. Because flying to ****ing source wall is unquantifiable.

Nah, you're just missing information when talking about speed

Like....time.

Reality blitzing, lol. Why is that a speed feat again?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nah, you're just missing information when talking about speed

I know. Looks like your reality just got blitzed

You're just talking nonsense now. Show me Surfer able to cross entire universe via sheer speed and he might be Supergirl/Superboy/Power Girl level in speed. Last time he tried it, he was informed that it would take him billions of years and he would still not get near the edge of the universe.

Forget about Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Also even Superboy and Supergirl can fly to the edge of the universe in the middle of a sentence.

http://i.imgur.com/M5tLnz7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dnY2Z6C.jpg

And in case of Supergirl, she has done it twice.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16076089_Superman_Batman_25-01.JPG http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16076090_Superman_Batman_25-0203.JPG

:

Uhm, unless there are preceding pages showing something else, they are already at the Source Wall in the first panel, then fly away after chatting for a bit.

The Supergirls pages doesn't mention where they are while talking, nor how long they've been flying at that point in time.

Originally posted by Magnificent M
Uhm, unless there are preceding pages showing something else, they are already at the Source Wall in the first panel, then fly away after chatting for a bit.

The Supergirls pages doesn't mention where they are while talking, nor how long they've been flying at that point in time.

This. We see nothing on how they got to that destination. Nothing. They could've used a boom tube for all we know.

Originally posted by ghostman
racism is based in systemic/institutional oppression and since there is no sociopolitical infrastructure working against white people there is no racism against whites. prejudice you mean? absolutely everyone is prejudice.


dont make a fool of yourself kid.

Please tell me you're kidding about what racism is.

Originally posted by Magnificent M
Uhm, unless there are preceding pages showing something else, they are already at the Source Wall in the first panel, then fly away after chatting for a bit.


Seriously? They were at Titans Tower and they flew to Source Wall to imprison prime.

http://imgur.com/a/O58jk



Of course we do. Supergirl was on Themyscira when Bizarro recruited her to rescue Superman. It happened rather quickly too.

They were not flying for billion of years if you are wondering.

Originally posted by carver9
This. We see nothing on how they got to that destination. Nothing. They could've used a boom tube for all we know.
facepalm

Where did you see a boom tube?

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Where did you see a boom tube?

The point went completely over your head. Moral, we do not know how they got there.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Please tell me you're kidding about what racism is.
If a member of the KKK suddenly got Flash level super speed, his costumed identity would be...The Racist!

Originally posted by riv6672
If a member of the KKK suddenly got Flash level super speed, his costumed identity would be...The Racist!

A pun. I hate you. Die.

Originally posted by riv6672
If a member of the KKK suddenly got Flash level super speed, his costumed identity would be...The Racist!

Originally posted by Delta1938
A pun. I hate you. Die.

http://media.galaxant.com/000/073/766/desktop-1410452716.png

Originally posted by riv6672
http://media.galaxant.com/000/073/766/desktop-1410452716.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d5/f9/f3/d5f9f30aa8ffa8f7615df6cc619f50c8.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously? They were at Titans Tower and they flew to Source Wall to imprison prime.

http://imgur.com/a/O58jk



Of course we do. Supergirl was on Themyscira when Bizarro recruited her to rescue Superman. It happened rather quickly too.

They were not flying for billion of years if you are wondering.

Yes, seriously.
There is nothing to indicate how much time that passed between Superboy saying they're not killers and then him, Supergirl and SBP being at the Wall.
Could have been instantaneous, could have been weeks. There's no information to tell either way.

As for the Supergirls, it would be a bit clearer if you provided the Bizarro bit too, not everyone reads everything.

Originally posted by Delta1938
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d5/f9/f3/d5f9f30aa8ffa8f7615df6cc619f50c8.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ba/d0/bf/bad0bf0f731213548ef1865b45d3e55a.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ba/d0/bf/bad0bf0f731213548ef1865b45d3e55a.jpg

I hate you. That's why I voted--

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Originally posted by Magnificent M
Yes, seriously.
There is nothing to indicate how much time that passed between Superboy saying they're not killers and then him, Supergirl and SBP being at the Wall.
Could have been instantaneous, could have been weeks. There's no information to tell either way.

As for the Supergirls, it would be a bit clearer if you provided the Bizarro bit too, not everyone reads everything. Short enough that a guy who can quickly heal hasn't done so, nor has the blood even begun to coagulate and dry, which with smeared and drops of blood on skin begins happening immediately. He's also still spitting it when he talks.

It's still the same encounter, just a new location panel to panel.
There's not an exact time frame, as panel never is, it exists somewhere in the realm of 'seconds' to 'moments'.

Originally posted by Juntai
Short enough that a guy who can quickly heal hasn't done so, nor has the blood even begun to coagulate and dry, which with smeared and drops of blood on skin begins happening immediately. He's also still spitting it when he talks.

It's still the same encounter, just a new location panel to panel.
There's not an exact time frame, as panel never is, it exists somewhere in the realm of 'seconds' to 'moments'.

Yeah, the better argument by far is "we don't know if they got there under their own power."

Mjolnir can out pace Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're just talking nonsense now. Show me Surfer able to cross entire universe via sheer speed and he might be Supergirl/Superboy/Power Girl level in speed. Last time he tried it, he was informed that it would take him billions of years and he would still not get near the edge of the universe.

Forget about Superman.

Accept it

Originally posted by t0sh
Mjolnir can out pace Superman.

Superman destroys him.

Originally posted by carver9
The point went completely over your head. Moral, we do not know how they got there.
Yes, we do. They flew there. Originally posted by Magnificent M
Yes, seriously.
There is nothing to indicate how much time that passed between Superboy saying they're not killers and then him, Supergirl and SBP being at the Wall.
Could have been instantaneous, could have been weeks. There's no information to tell either way.

As for the Supergirls, it would be a bit clearer if you provided the Bizarro bit too, not everyone reads everything.
That's just ****ing ridiculous. What do you think, Prime was knocked out for weeks or years? BTW it happened on the very same day.

Not my problem.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Accept it
Accept your Concession and tears? Alright.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I hate you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Accept your Concession and tears? Alright. Speed = distance/x

What's x, Abhilegend?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Speed = distance/x

What's x, Abhilegend?
So it took Supergirl millions of years to reach source wall? Billions?

How much time do you think she took? Even if you take it a year or a decade, it would shit all over Surfer's best feats.

It's not that hard to understand.

So no answer. Deflection. Indignation at the question.
Classic.

-cue troll remark-

Idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So it took Supergirl millions of years to reach source wall? Billions?

How much time do you think she took? Even if you take it a year or a decade, it would shit all over Surfer's best feats.

It's not that hard to understand. F

locolaugh

Originally posted by psycho gundam
F
Concession accepted. Again.

I get that saying "concession accepted" is the thing to say in forums but it really doesn't suffice in this situation. Sure you got the last word in but at the cost of your perceived intelligence?

Maybe you'll fallow up with "lulz" next or "pwned"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I get that saying "concession accepted" is the thing to say in forums but it really doesn't suffice in this situation. Sure you got the last word in but at the cost of your perceived intelligence?

Maybe you'll fallow up with "lulz" next or "pwned"
You are the one to talk. Maybe you should check your cranium and see what distance means.

The thing between you and the unbiased truth

Originally posted by psycho gundam
The thing between you and the unbiased truth


See, this is simple math. If you can't comprehend it, I'll even get h1a8 to explain it to you. 81 billion lightyears>1 lighteyars. Unless you think Supergirl took 81 billion seconds and Surfer took 1 second to traverse it, Supergirl's feat easily surpasses Surfer's.

C'mon, even a hulk fan like you can understand that.

Time to end it

Originally posted by abhilegend


See, this is simple math. If you can't comprehend it, I'll even get h1a8 to explain it to you. 81 billion lightyears>1 lighteyars. Unless you think Supergirl took 81 billion seconds and Surfer took 1 second to traverse it, Supergirl's feat easily surpasses Surfer's.

C'mon, even a hulk fan like you can understand that. I really don't understand how people go back and forth with you for pages when this many responses to you is overkill as it is. I'll leave you with this lapse in your logic for you to inevitably rage and rant over but ultimately in your heart know is true: you're clinging to the whole "it was in the span of a sentence" which is "true" but with 1 extremely crucial element that you can't refute on good faith: most of the journey to the source wall was during Prime's unconsciousness and the part you want to try and pass off as a continues journey from Earth to the source wall is erroneous. Once they made it there they placed him into it where one could speculate he was still unconscious. The dialog happened while they left him; the motion Connor is making is not him throwing Prime into the wall, he's actually turning away to fly back to Earth with Supergirl leaving Prime there for (presumably) all eternity.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p1_zpsczwhkgkj.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p2_zpsjh2jncly.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p3_zpslq8ho00f.jpg
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Learn from this

I'd like to formally request any smart and reasonable posters to look at my post and judge the entire scene

All the "Superman fans", anyone. The truth is the truth

I'm joining late so I don't have full context, but to Abhi's point, 81 billion seconds is >2500 years, so it definitely didn't take her that long.

Read my previous post. You don't even see Connor and Supergirl taking prime to the source wall, you just see them leaving him there after the journey is complete.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I'd like to formally request any smart and reasonable posters to look at my post and judge the entire scene

All the "Superman fans", anyone. The truth is the truth
Haha, the "intelligent" posters such as you?

Maybe carver? Darthgoober?

Left with nothing but to plead with other posters to defend him.

You can take it however you want but all I want are competent judges. I said no names but you did.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Read my previous post. You don't even see Connor and Supergirl taking prime to the source wall, you just see them leaving him there after the journey is complete.
And how did they get there? Maybe teleportation? Or maybe someone invisible was there taking them home when they fly away. The possibilities are endless.

And when Supergirls and Power Girl fly to the source wall, its also by teleporting.

*Gundam shows Surfer arriving half a universe away as a speed feat".

Originally posted by psycho gundam


Crosses a universe in minutes (or one arguably)

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_universecrossing_zpsvvzvcpnl.jpg

As I said "intelligent" posters and their "intelligent" posts are always amusing.

Goddamn...the question is how long it took. Time is something you simply cannot understand. You're insufferable

Can anyone else help this guy?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Goddamn...the question is how long it took. Time is something you simply cannot understand. You're insufferable

Can anyone else help this guy?
A panel or two. Count it out. Maybe a few billion years, give or take.

How long do you think that took? How do you think they appeared at source wall?

Questions, questions.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/sfg_zpsjwmla8ol.gif

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Read my previous post. You don't even see Connor and Supergirl taking prime to the source wall, you just see them leaving him there after the journey is complete.

So is the argument that they didn't actually fly there under their own power?

Its definitely a possibility, but we do see them fly away from him at least.

Maybe they are flying back to a parked spaceship, or a nearby portal that they came out of.

Do we know though? Because if we don't, Occam's Razor would sort of point to them just flying there because that's all we see them doing on the way back at least.

*shrug* I don't have a dog in this one.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
So is the argument that they didn't actually fly there under their own power?

Its definitely a possibility, but we do see them fly away from him at least.

Maybe they are flying back to a parked spaceship, or a nearby portal that they came out of.

Do we know though? Because if we don't, Occam's Razor would sort of point to them just flying there because that's all we see them doing on the way back at least.

*shrug* I don't have a dog in this one. My argument is that taking him to the source wall happened via flight, yes, but how long it took to do it didn't happen in the span of a sentence which Abhilegend is erroneously claiming. i'm saying it happened off -panel during the time Prime was unconscious and all you see is the duo leaving him there.

There is no time but there is distance so it's not enough.

Ironically the scene with Surfer flying to that planet to help Man-thing and Brandt I posted is closer to what Abhilegend thinks his Superboy/girl feat is. You have some manner of distance and some manner of time involved to discern how good it is.

Oh yeah, didn't see that claim.

Saying it took the span of a sentence is extremely dubious. I don't see anything that would conclusively point to that.

Still, if that claim was dropped and it was conceded that it took them say an entire day (just enough for them not to be missed in their private lives), it would still lead to a monstrous feat.

Not monsterous enough, obviously.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

Should I get h1a8 to talk it through? They fly to the source ****ing wall at the end of the universe in less time than a fight between Joke and Batman to end. This is the whole sequence of that scene.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519917_Superman_Batman_24-16.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519918_Superman_Batman_24-17.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519954_Superman_Batman_24-18.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519955_Superman_Batman_24-24.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519960_Superman_Batman_24-25.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519996_Superman_Batman_24-26.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30519997_Superman_Batman_24-27.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520033_Superman_Batman_24-31.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520034_Superman_Batman_25-04.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520035_Superman_Batman_25-06.jpg

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/30520036/Superman_Batman_25-08.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/30520037/Superman_Batman_25-09.jpg.html

Both Joker and Mxy summon the heroes and their counterparts simultaneously at the end.

The whole sequence is running simultaneously. The exact time is not given but its outright shown that they took less time than even hours.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
My argument is that taking him to the source wall happened via flight, yes, but how long it took to do it didn't happen in the span of a sentence which Abhilegend is erroneously claiming. i'm saying it happened off -panel during the time Prime was unconscious and all you see is the duo leaving him there.

There is no time but there is distance so it's not enough.

Ironically the scene with Surfer flying to that planet to help Man-thing and Brandt I posted is closer to what Abhilegend thinks his Superboy/girl feat is. You have some manner of distance and some manner of time involved to discern how good it is.
It is not mentioned where Surfer was or how he appeared there. Its entirely possible that Surfer was near the planet.

If Surfer was on Earth, that was never specified. So the distance taken by him is never shown or implied. Just that the family was teleported some billions of lightyears away. Speaking of that, the Titans sequence.

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520046_22.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520047_23.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520048_24.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520049_25.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520050_26.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30520051_27.jpg

It didn't take them long to go there and come back.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not monsterous enough, obviously.

Enough for what?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Enough for what?
For abhi.
He's not satisfied with a monstrous feat, it has to be a monsterous feat while weakened and holding back.

And if anyone wants to know, DC universe is at least 200 trillion lightyears across as when Adam Strange teleported Superman 100 trillion lightyears away, he was explicitly half the universe away from Earth.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520128_7374284.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520129_189065.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/30520130_2504889.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Should I get h1a8 to talk it through? They fly to the source ****ing wall at the end of the universe in less time than a fight between Joke and Batman to end. This is the whole sequence of that scene.

Both Joker and Mxy summon the heroes and their counterparts simultaneously at the end.

The whole sequence is running simultaneously. The exact time is not given but its outright shown that they took less time than even hours. I read the 2 comics that comprise that scene for myself. This was all that was spoken about as far as time is concerned:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/grh_zpswbxtxwz3.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
It is not mentioned where Surfer was or how he appeared there. Its entirely possible that Surfer was near the planet.

If Surfer was on Earth, that was never specified. So the distance taken by him is never shown or implied. Just that the family was teleported some billions of lightyears away. Accept he did if you read the scans properly

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/rgrh_zpswadcrkem.jpg

And

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/htjyj_zpszysjeyby.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Speaking of that, the Titans sequence.

It didn't take them long to go there and come back.

If you take the missing pages/panels of them actually traveling to and forth, that is.... You literally
have none of their travel to the source wall to draw from. you know how far it is from Earth, sure, but how long it took them to get there is absent. That's all I am trying to convey to you. I'm not even being rude about this.

I'm logging off now lol

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I read the 2 comics that comprise that scene for myself. This was all that was spoken about as far as time is concerned:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/grh_zpswbxtxwz3.jpg

Yeah, it was all done in a day.



Alright. He was on Earth, how did he arrive at the planet. And he arrived a few billion lightyears away. Supergirl travelled across two hundred trillion lightyears in an afternoon.





It took them less time than a fight between Batman and Joker lol.



Good.

Can't edit cause this site is busted but it was more than a light year away from Thanos.

You just...*sigh*... have no concept of time and how important it is when talking about speed. It's not an insult but a valid description of what you've apparently tried to convey as of yet. It looks like you want me to believe that and I do.

You have no concept of distance. Unless Kara and Kyle and Eradicator took 200 trillion seconds to get at the end of universe, they are far faster than Surfer can ever hope to be.

Incidentally, when Surfer tried to go to the end of the universe, it was straight up stated that he could fly for the life span of suns and wouldn't reach halfway there.

You're just too hung up on 'lightyear in a moment " at this point.

At least it has a time component.

Where is the time component? It's a guesswork as well.

Throw a punch and estimate how long it takes you to do that. Use your inability to conceptualize time cause even if Thanos inexplicably took 5 hours by lifting his arm up to punch Captain America it's still a massive feat to cross a light year that fast.

You at least backed away from the other things you posted here that fell flat. There is at least some semblance of realization. The Superboy-prime one...yikes

Originally posted by abhilegend
You have no concept of distance. Unless Kara and Kyle and Eradicator took 200 trillion seconds to get at the end of universe, they are far faster than Surfer can ever hope to be. Look at this. You even have uncertainty in this also

Superman sweeps.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Throw a punch and estimate how long it takes you to do that. Use your inability to conceptualize time cause even if Thanos inexplicably took 5 hours by lifting his arm up to punch Captain America it's still a massive feat to cross a light year that fast.


Take That same ability to guess time and apply it to cross 200 trillion lightyears.

You'll get there sometime.

Backed away? What about SBP one? That's as valid as anything you posted.





When are you going to realize that 200 trillion lightyears are far more distance than a lightyear?

I get it, you think Surfer is better than Superman in every way. Don't let the tears show when proven wrong though.

Start by digging your way out of yet another massively incomprehensive retelling of the Superboy-prime source wall incident. Talk about falling onto your face and forgetting to velcro your safety helmet on before walking like a big boy does. How many threads and forums did you mislead people with that?

How many other things have you read completely wrong? Everything must be questioned now

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Start by digging your way out of yet another massively incomprehensive retelling of the Superboy-prime source wall incident.

Where you flat out denied everything and it's gospel now, eh?

The sheer arrogance is amusing.

What's incomprehensible there? Superboy and Supergirl fly to Source Wall and imprisoned SBP there. Simple scene.

What is misleading there you complete goof?

Because this is some Darthgoober level denial of comics.



What a complete and utter buffoon. What's misleading there? Care to enlighten us?

Start here

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also even Superboy and Supergirl can fly to the edge of the universe in the middle of a sentence.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/hrhh_zpsthagem3c.gif

Goodnight

Which is what happened. Heck, Prime was still bloody from the beating.

What is your counter proof other than bitching and moaning?

...They didn't care to wipe his mouth?

You're still clinging to the false claim that they flew him there mid sentence? Holy crap


http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p4_zpslzkyguzb.jpg

*journey to the source wall completely skipped for suspense making the duration between events unknowable*

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_p5_zpsmh6nnkkj.jpg

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Thor
Superman
Silver Surfer
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman

Who comes in order

1. Footrace
2. Flight Race
3. Reaction Speed

1) Superman, EASILY
2) Thor (assumes Mjolnir, if not Superman or Surfer)
3) Superman, EASILY

Originally posted by psycho gundam
...They didn't care to wipe his mouth?


Idiocy at its finest. There is nothing to be said after this.

Originally posted by zopzop
1) Superman, EASILY
2) Thor (assumes Mjolnir, if not Superman or Surfer)
3) Superman, EASILY
How and why Thor is so fast?

Superman
Surfer
Surfer

All the bickering about 'mid sentence' aside; even at the most generous range 'seconds' to 'moments' as the carrying Prime feat was, or even 'minutes' if you want just for sake, getting to the edge of the universe inside of a scene is the far greater feat.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman
Surfer
Surfer
Originally posted by Juntai
All the bickering about 'mid sentence' aside; even at the most generous range 'seconds' to 'moments' as the carrying Prime feat was, or even 'minutes' if you want just for sake, getting to the edge of the universe inside of a scene is the far greater feat.
Nah, Gundam will ignore anything that doesn't paints Surfer as the bestest.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Thor
Superman
Silver Surfer
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman

Who comes in order

1. Footrace
2. Flight Race
3. Reaction Speed Surfer
Surfer
Surfer

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Then how can this be true?

Superman was sent to /metropolis, not Oa. The universe can't have 2 centers. Inexact, surely, but while OA is located far away it is still inside of Milky Way Galaxy's 100k in diameter lightyears, seemingly not far from Krypton based on stories. Universally speaking, all 3 are relatively close

If you begin to talk in the range of 100 trillion lightyears from one or the other planet, the extra thousands of lightyears becomes a rather insignificant number.

Originally posted by Juntai
All the bickering about 'mid sentence' aside; even at the most generous range 'seconds' to 'moments' as the carrying Prime feat was, or even 'minutes' if you want just for sake, getting to the edge of the universe inside of a scene is the far greater feat. You have absolutely no reason to believe that other than simply wanting to. You don't see the journey at all, they could have even been teleported there. It's completely unknowable.Originally posted by Juntai
Inexact, surely, but while OA is located far away it is still inside of Milky Way Galaxy's 100k in diameter lightyears, seemingly not far from Krypton based on stories. Universally speaking, all 3 are relatively close

If you begin to talk in the range of 100 trillion lightyears from one or the other planet, the extra thousands of lightyears becomes a rather insignificant number. Here's the quote that the issue arose from Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Oa is at the centre of universe and krypton is at the edge of the known cosmos. Completely different from what you're talking about

Originally posted by abhilegend
How and why Thor is so fast?
Thor is nothing. Mjolnir is fast. It was easily outracing the Surfer (during the whole Troll/Ulik Thor fiasco).

Originally posted by psycho gundam
You have absolutely no reason to believe that other than simply wanting to. You don't see the journey at all, they could have even been teleported there. It's completely unknowable.



We see them flying away but they could've teleported because why the hell not?

This is just trolling at this point.


Oh you buffoon.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thor is nothing. Mjolnir is fast. It was easily outracing the Surfer (during the whole Troll/Ulik Thor fiasco).
That doesn't means he is faster than Superman.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thor is nothing. Mjolnir is fast. It was easily outracing the Surfer (during the whole Troll/Ulik Thor fiasco).

I thought surfer was simply following it to where it was going

What made you think so?

Originally posted by abhilegend


We see them flying away but they could've teleported because why the hell not?

This is just trolling at this point.


Oh you buffoon. You have no data to work with

You have no mind to think with.

That post there aggravates me more than anything before cause not only is it a needless grasp for the last word but it's totally ignorant of an evidence based argument. I'm simply saying that the thing in question (the journey to the wall) is completely missing therefore the time in which it took to make it there is unknowable. Arguing that fact is impossible but somehow you continue to do it. you just used an empty ad hominem out of sheer pettiness

If only.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What made you think so?

The fact that it took off by itself and surfer kept following it ?

Originally posted by Genii96
The fact that it took off by itself and surfer kept following it ?
Thor summoned it. Surfer was unable to follow it and even said it was "so fast".