The Future of the "new" Right Wing.

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Ziggystardust

The Ellimist
Eh, I guess I'll indulge you:

Which culture do you want to make the hegemony? The culture of Trump's voter base - the uneducated white working class - is hardly the pinnacle of humanity. Our most impressive culture would lie in the well educated (formally or informally), scientifically literate "elite", who tend to be socially liberal and scorn Trump, his supporters, and his cabinet.

Indeed, if your desired demographic makeup is a product of wanting a population with a certain set of admirable qualities, why not select directly for those qualities instead of clumsily trying to employ ethnicity as a loose proxy? An Indian American physicist with forward thinking social values is a better example for the United States than some uneducated white trailer trash, with their race having no clear relevance independent of factors that you can measure directly anyway - that should be easy to see.

Lestov16
If you're worried about Trump, It's simple. We wait and see. If Trump manages to make America Great, lowers unemployment and poverty, culls illegal immigration and monitors Muslim refugees without unrest, wipes out ISIS, and does brings all the good he promised, then conservatives will be able to say "we were right"

If, although, the increasingly liberal progressive country,

(and it is; Trump got less votes than Romney, as 48% of the country chose not to vote period as they didn't view Hillary as a viable alternative; Trumps win was not a massive uprising of right wing nativist conservatism, but rather a massive rejection of Hillary's rather right wing neoliberalist corruption of the left wing Democratic party; it's not that people want the right, it's just that due to the DNC being corrupt to the core, there is no viable left party besides the extremist left Green party; people want progress, the point of liberalism, but Hillary used corporatist neoliberal corruption and SJWs (ex. Ghostbusters and Pepe) to turn liberalism into a hypocritical joke, similar to how she turned the concept of humanitarianism (which I worship as an ideology) into a joke by using the excuse of humanitarian intervention to depose human rights violating dictators but leaving even worse human rights violating warlords in place; quite simply, she was a *****, and did not deserve the presidency; however, now that Hillary lost the election, there is no point in criticising now, as she has lost her power seat forever)

decides to reject the conservative policies of the conservative government, shit could get bad. If peoples families start getting negatively affected by Trump's policies on a mass scale, then we could be looking at, as i stated on election day, an apocalyptic civil war. In which case, the increasingly small conservatives may undergo a French Revolution style coup leading our country to become a third world state in the chaos.

Conservatism by its it's very logic is doomed to fail because it wishes to conserve policies and ideologies of the past against the technological and social progress of the future, and change is a juggernaut that can not be stopped. You can either adapt to it or be crushed trying to rebel against it. As the world progresses technologically, it is slowly but surely beginning to embrace mundialist secular humanism over religion or nationalism.

I'm rather glad Bannon said what he did. It proves my point about alt-right conservatism. They are driven by base human nature (strong preys on the weak) rather than human spirit (strong protects the weak). A desire for power over the powerless rather than the empowerment of the powerless. This is well, the attempt to conserve human nature against the evolving human spirit. It is, well, rather Satanic thinking.

Hillary lost not because she was a liberal, but because she was a neoliberal, which is essentially a conservative who lies about it. Americans don't want conservatism in any form, but Hillary and the international Bilderberg Group have corrupted liberalism into a neoliberal capitalist system that is essentially identical to conservatism. People do not want conservative policies. They do not want the current status quo, which is what Hillary offered, or any previous status quo, which is what Trump is offering. They want progress, know we have the technological capacity, and they know that neoliberal/conservative greed and obsolete nationalist/religious/economic ideologies is what is obstructing that progress. As stated, Hillary's loss was the country's killing of neoliberalist capitalism, but something tells me conservatism isn't too far behind, and depending on how oppressive Trump's policies get, the death of conservatism won't be at the ballot, but rather in bloodshed.

You can't fight change with conservatism. Change is a juggernaut. If it's not adapted it to, it will crush you, and in the case of an oppressive Trump presidency, conservatism will be crushed by outright revolution. And that point, there won't be a Hillary Clinton to lynch. There will only be Trump, his administration....and all who voted for him.

Surtur
Originally posted by Lestov16
If you're worried about Trump, It's simple. We wait and see. If Trump manages to make America Great, lowers unemployment and poverty, culls illegal immigration and monitors Muslim refugees without unrest, wipes out ISIS, and does brings all the good he promised, then conservatives will be able to say "we were right"

This would be awesome, especially because I know it would legitimately upset the left for Trump to succeed. At this point they want Trump to fail. This is why people were upset he settled the Trump U thing.



Exactly. This is what people consistently fail to get. They want to talk about how horrible our country looks because we elected a guy like Trump. Without really considering just how so very very bad things might be if people still went with Trump over Hilary.

Trump won states he should have never been able to win, like Wisconsin. Hilary thought she had Wisconsin in the bag so much that she didn't stop there once during the election.



I truly believe that both sides are driven by those things though. I just think they each have different methods in how to best achieve those things.



This touches on another thing that bothered me. It seems people would like to blame everyone and everything for Hilary's loss..besides Hilary. I've seen white women blamed, I've seen whites in general blamed, I've seen Comey blamed, I've seen the DNC blamed. But the person who bears the brunt of the responsibility for this loss..tends to never get brought up.

Look at this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/why-donald-trump-won/index.html

It's 24 theories as to why Trump won, and not a single one of them really put any blame specifically on Hilary. Also keep in mind on a list that is supposed to be about theories why Trump won..#12 on that list is "not millenials" lol.

Robtard
I like how the OP calls a bunch of whiny angry white people (ie Alt-righties) who were told the world belongs to them by their puppet-masters a "nascent revolution" almost as much as his tears that the "liberals" will label it racism and then goes on to state how America needs to return to "80+% white".

Surtur
I like that too.

Flyattractor
Yeah the world is much better off when being run by a bunch of uneducated angry white lefties.

Henry_Pym
Liberalism is closer to the right than the left in the classical sense. As someone who was an early adopter of the alt-right it sucks that tards have co-opted it and the leftist media is only so happy to straw man the beliefs based on some methed up klansmen.

Here are the core beliefs of the Alt-right
Strong infrastructure and trade deals
Isolationist leanings
A focus on the nation over self.

Henry_Pym
Also Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame debunked the "uneducated" narrative months ago. If anyone should be labelled as the candidate of the dumb, Hillary's largest voting block was college educated people who were in the lower income bracket.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Henry_Pym

Here are the core beliefs of the Alt-right
Strong infrastructure and trade deals
Isolationist leanings
A focus on the nation over self.

Welll 1 out of 3 aint too bad.

Henry_Pym
Just curious, but what is your issue with isolationism? It gets an unfair bad wrap but since we moved away from it and towards a globalist stance we have fought 6 wars.

Henry_Pym
Yes you can, lol. America was an isolationism utopia during the 1880's- to world war 2. It's part of the reason America never saw fighting on the home front after the civil war.

Surtur
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Also Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame debunked the "uneducated" narrative months ago. If anyone should be labelled as the candidate of the dumb, Hillary's largest voting block was college educated people who were in the lower income bracket.

This is quite interesting, because all we hear about all the time is how smart Hilary voters are.

Henry_Pym
Isolationism has nothing to do with immigration, it's a political stance. We weren't in the "democracy building" mode that has plagued us since ww2. An Isolationist country still does trade, but you safeguards it's interests and not a globalist agenda.

Nephthys
I hear that a recent Alt-Right meeting ended with everyone doing the Nazi salute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html?_r=0

Beniboybling
I think it's time to cull the white population, starting with Ziggy.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Surtur
This would be awesome, especially because I know it would legitimately upset the left for Trump to succeed. At this point they want Trump to fail. This is why people were upset he settled the Trump U thing.Because the "good" Trump has promised is in fact bad, yeah, I would like him to flop.

Surtur
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because the "good" Trump has promised is in fact bad, yeah, I would like him to flop.

Yeah..nope. Not what I was saying. I was saying even if he does good from the crazy liberal point of view..they will be pissed.

Beniboybling
It is given the contexts of what you were responding to was the "good he promised", but I get that in mashing your agenda into the keyboard its easy to miss these things. smile

Surtur
And yet I just clarified for you what I meant so..do you have anything further to add or not?

Beniboybling
Nah, I'll leave you to your delusions.

Surtur
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, I'll leave you to your delusions.

He said, without the slightest hint of irony or self awareness.

Beniboybling
I'm not the one gagging on Trump's genitalia darling. wink

Surtur
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm not the one gagging on Trump's genitalia darling. wink

Only because you've mastered your gag reflex. Just like a lot of porn stars do.

Robtard
Richard Spencer, aka Mr. Alt-Right

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

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Henry_Pym
I've been alt-right for 2 years and never heard of this guy. But what ever you need to build that strawman.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I've been alt-right for 2 years and never heard of this guy. But what ever you need to build that strawman.

he's the leader of the alt-right, and an obvious white nationalist. but have fun trying to gaslight your intellectual superiors. thumb up

carthage
The election only bolstered the confidence of the "Alt-right" not increased their numbers and or showed that they're some formidable voting block. I'm certain that half of the people bitching about them, and posting videos of some conference in a concert hall/rec center had no idea they even existed prior to the 2016 election. Anything that has any sort of semblance of racial discourse will get the left salivating to get on their soapboxes, so posting these videos doesn't really change my opinion on anything.

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he's the leader of the alt-right, and an obvious white nationalist. but have fun trying to gaslight your intellectual superiors. thumb up Who elected him? The fact you think an ideology can have a leader shows you my cat is your intellectual superior.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Who elected him? The fact you think an ideology can have a leader shows you my cat is your intellectual superior.
what ridiculous clownshit.
the alt-right is a movement and that movement has a leader.

Surtur
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Who elected him? The fact you think an ideology can have a leader shows you my cat is your intellectual superior.

You shouldn't pay them much attention. If you'd seen some of the things they have said in the past..you'd know how utterly hilarious it is for these people to insult the intelligence of others. Not only that, but these same people accuse others of living in bubbles lol.

It's like Trump talking shit about someone elses silly hairdo.

A tip: if they respond to one of your posts and quote you and erase what you said and just put "no you!" in it's place..that is a sure sign you are indeed getting to them.

Henry_Pym
The fact that you believe that says more about you than me, it's a split from the social conservatives and there neo-anarcho capitalists and the toxic religious. This happened in the Roman empire but sure, it's all new.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
The fact that you believe that says more about you than me, it's a split from the social conservatives and there neo-anarcho capitalists and the toxic religious. This happened in the Roman empire but sure, it's all new.

and one for you:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
still avoiding the point of steve bannon and the recent alt-right self-unmasking. how expected, coward.

Henry_Pym
I'm sorry is that code? Do you think Breitbart is the alt-right now?

carthage
Evidence Bannon is a white nationalist?

Surtur
Originally posted by carthage
Evidence Bannon is a white nationalist?

I just love how people keep saying the guy also is an anti-semite as well.

Not only was Breitbart a jew, Milo is also a jew..a gay jew at that.

I still haven't seen a sufficient explanation for that.

Henry_Pym
Also, I think people don't understand what "wing" means. The alt-right is fairly centrist/populist

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by carthage
Evidence Bannon is a white nationalist?

he is/was a leader of the alt-right which is a white nationlist organization. your ignoring of the recent statements by the alt-right along with all you coy simpering does not change that. maybe if you try harder?

carthage
All I'm asking is for proof that he's a white nationalist. Either post proof or continue posting rage induced texts proving your an idiot.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by carthage
All I'm asking is for proof that he's a white nationalist. Either post proof or continue posting rage induced texts proving your an idiot.

the proof is already apparent by the statements of the alt-right. your silly games do not negate that. the lack of bannon quotes of "white power" do not change that, despite your silly games.

carthage
Ok so nothing.

Thanks for proving you're a jackass.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by carthage
Ok so nothing.

Thanks for proving you're a jackass.

wow you won. go tell your fellow bronies.

Henry_Pym
He is a white male, so from a certain point of view he is a homophobic transphobic racist sexist.

Surtur
Originally posted by Surtur
I just love how people keep saying the guy also is an anti-semite as well.

Not only was Breitbart a jew, Milo is also a jew..a gay jew at that.

I still haven't seen a sufficient explanation for that.

Still curious about this.

Burley
This is a racist bait thread. But the retard mod Badabing will accuse anyone who complains of being Butthurt... seriously.

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the proof is already apparent by the statements of the alt-right. your silly games do not negate that. the lack of bannon quotes of "white power" do not change that, despite your silly games.

Er so why wouldn't you post some of these statements?

Since I'm sorry but you're far too untrustworthy for us to take you at your word.

Surtur
Originally posted by Burley
This is a racist bait thread. But the retard mod Badabing will accuse anyone who complains of being Butthurt... seriously.

I don't know about all that, but if someone doesn't like the posts made by this person then the solution is..don't click his topics.

Henry_Pym
It's a bunch of Milo bants taken out of context. And because he was the editor of Breitbart they are claiming he endorsed these ideas. The anti-Semitic thing was from his ex-wife during the divorce precedings while fighting custody.

She claimed he said, "I don't want my kids going to school with those Jews."

shiv
Originally posted by Nephthys
I hear that a recent Alt-Right meeting ended with everyone doing the Nazi salute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html?_r=0 [/QUOT


Joseph Goldstein has a good imagination.

Surtur
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
It's a bunch of Milo bants taken out of context. And because he was the editor of Breitbart they are claiming he endorsed these ideas. The anti-Semitic thing was from his ex-wife during the divorce precedings while fighting custody.

She claimed he said, "I don't want my kids going to school with those Jews."

Lol I truly hope these people have more to go on than "his ex wife doesn't like jews".

Henry_Pym
I looked up the first guy Teg claimed was the leader and a white supremacist... Tila Tequila was there, so no he isn't a serious "leader" and he is the kind of white supremacist who invites minorities to his meetings. I think we will all survive the night.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Lestov16
If you're worried about Trump, It's simple. We wait and see. If Trump manages to make America Great, lowers unemployment and poverty, culls illegal immigration and monitors Muslim refugees without unrest, wipes out ISIS, and does brings all the good he promised, then conservatives will be able to say "we were right"

If, although, the increasingly liberal progressive country,

(and it is; Trump got less votes than Romney, as 48% of the country chose not to vote period as they didn't view Hillary as a viable alternative; Trumps win was not a massive uprising of right wing nativist conservatism, but rather a massive rejection of Hillary's rather right wing neoliberalist corruption of the left wing Democratic party; it's not that people want the right, it's just that due to the DNC being corrupt to the core, there is no viable left party besides the extremist left Green party; people want progress, the point of liberalism, but Hillary used corporatist neoliberal corruption and SJWs (ex. Ghostbusters and Pepe) to turn liberalism into a hypocritical joke, similar to how she turned the concept of humanitarianism (which I worship as an ideology) into a joke by using the excuse of humanitarian intervention to depose human rights violating dictators but leaving even worse human rights violating warlords in place; quite simply, she was a *****, and did not deserve the presidency; however, now that Hillary lost the election, there is no point in criticising now, as she has lost her power seat forever)

decides to reject the conservative policies of the conservative government, shit could get bad. If peoples families start getting negatively affected by Trump's policies on a mass scale, then we could be looking at, as i stated on election day, an apocalyptic civil war. In which case, the increasingly small conservatives may undergo a French Revolution style coup leading our country to become a third world state in the chaos.

Conservatism by its it's very logic is doomed to fail because it wishes to conserve policies and ideologies of the past against the technological and social progress of the future, and change is a juggernaut that can not be stopped. You can either adapt to it or be crushed trying to rebel against it. As the world progresses technologically, it is slowly but surely beginning to embrace mundialist secular humanism over religion or nationalism.

I'm rather glad Bannon said what he did. It proves my point about alt-right conservatism. They are driven by base human nature (strong preys on the weak) rather than human spirit (strong protects the weak). A desire for power over the powerless rather than the empowerment of the powerless. This is well, the attempt to conserve human nature against the evolving human spirit. It is, well, rather Satanic thinking.

Hillary lost not because she was a liberal, but because she was a neoliberal, which is essentially a conservative who lies about it. Americans don't want conservatism in any form, but Hillary and the international Bilderberg Group have corrupted liberalism into a neoliberal capitalist system that is essentially identical to conservatism. People do not want conservative policies. They do not want the current status quo, which is what Hillary offered, or any previous status quo, which is what Trump is offering. They want progress, know we have the technological capacity, and they know that neoliberal/conservative greed and obsolete nationalist/religious/economic ideologies is what is obstructing that progress. As stated, Hillary's loss was the country's killing of neoliberalist capitalism, but something tells me conservatism isn't too far behind, and depending on how oppressive Trump's policies get, the death of conservatism won't be at the ballot, but rather in bloodshed.

You can't fight change with conservatism. Change is a juggernaut. If it's not adapted it to, it will crush you, and in the case of an oppressive Trump presidency, conservatism will be crushed by outright revolution. And that point, there won't be a Hillary Clinton to lynch. There will only be Trump, his administration....and all who voted for him.

Truth. My thoughts on the apathetic voter turn out should be a dangerous warning sign to the U.S. political system.

Surtur
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I looked up the first guy Teg claimed was the leader and a white supremacist... Tila Tequila was there, so no he isn't a serious "leader" and he is the kind of white supremacist who invites minorities to his meetings. I think we will all survive the night.

Tila Tequila? Obviously someone we should take seriously.

Robtard
Weird way to connect the dots. Tia Tequila had previously endorsed Trump before the election.

Surtur
Did they drink tequila with Tequila?

Robtard
Well, there seems to be at least three Alt-Right groups all vying for the top spot:

*The Nazi-like Spencer group

*The 4chan pedos who claim they're the ones who got Trump elected via their meme-magic

*Yet another splinter group off the conservative teat

IMO, the 4chan pedos and the Tea Party 2.0 ones should just get a new name, "Alt-Right" seemingly belongs to Richard Spencer's group, since he's credited with it's creation. I have a few suggestions of names:

*Alt-Shift-Right
*Aaaahhhh-Right
*The-Real-Right
*Right-on

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Robtard
*Alt-Shift-RightLmao.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
Weird way to connect the dots. Tia Tequila had previously endorsed Trump before the election.

She was also a Nazi sympathizer before the election too.

On separate occasions, she has been suspended from various social networks for dressing her son as Hitler, dressing in a Nazi uniform, and giving Nazi salutes.

She published an article online titled "Why I Sympathize with Hitler" in which she says, ". . . open your eyes to the truth that Hitler was NOT as bad as he was painted out to be."

Like Milo Yiannopoulos and the bleach blond Greek denial on his head, she is in denial about her white heritage.

Oh, and she also literally believes the Earth is flat, and seriously claims to be an android-robot-clone of the human Tila Tequila who died in 2012.

BackFire
It's disturbing to find out that she has a child. Poor kid.

Silent Master
It could have been worse, she could have been a Hillary supporter.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
She was also a Nazi sympathizer before the election too.

On separate occasions, she has been suspended from various social networks for dressing her son as Hitler, dressing in a Nazi uniform, and giving Nazi salutes.

She published an article online titled "Why I Sympathize with Hitler" in which she says, ". . . open your eyes to the truth that Hitler was NOT as bad as he was painted out to be."

Like Milo Yiannopoulos and the bleach blond Greek denial on his head, she is in denial about her white heritage.

Oh, and she also literally believes the Earth is flat, and seriously claims to be an android-robot-clone of the human Tila Tequila who died in 2012.
Whao, what the **** happened to her? Drugs?

BackFire
That, and probably a nice dose of stupidity.

Henry_Pym
It's hysterical to watch sore losers CNN viewers try to find a way to bash the alt-right and Trump. Like if I suggested everyone on the left was an incestuous paedophile just because Lena Dunham was a Hillary supporter. And Hillary actually used her in her campaign.

Stigma
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
It's hysterical to watch sore losers CNN viewers try to find a way to bash the alt-right and Trump. Like if I suggested everyone on the left was an incestuous paedophile just because Lena Dunham was a Hillary supporter. And Hillary actually used her in her campaign.

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