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Who wins and why ?

Molecule Man has been seriously depowered.

Huh? Molecule Man is arguably more powerful than ever.

Mxy wins, doe.

He used to be near Pre Retcon Beyonder's level, who was basically the most powerful reality warper in comic book history. Current version's of both Owen and Beyonder's aren't anywhere near what they were in classic Secret Wars.

Originally posted by cdtm
He used to be near Pre Retcon Beyonder's level, who was basically the most powerful reality warper in comic book history. Current version's of both Owen and Beyonder's aren't anywhere near what they were in classic Secret Wars. He's a multiversal reality warper at the least.

He's currently one of the strongest characters in comics.

Originally posted by Mindset
He's a multiversal reality warper at the least.

He's currently one of the strongest characters in comics.

That's with a weaker field, though. It's like comparing Ali to Rocky Marciano.

Back than, cosmics/abstracts were a lot more powerful, too. Just look at LT.. Went from king protector of the omniverse, to laying face up on the moon..

Or the Infinity Gauntlet. Went from "make the LT sweat" to busting from repelling a planet incursion.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's with a weaker field, though. It's like comparing Ali to Rocky Marciano.

Back than, cosmics/abstracts were a lot more powerful, too. Just look at LT.. Went from king protector of the omniverse, to laying face up on the moon.. If every character was at the same level they were when before the retcon he'd still be one of the strongest.

Originally posted by cdtm
He used to be near Pre Retcon Beyonder's level, who was basically the most powerful reality warper in comic book history. Current version's of both Owen and Beyonder's aren't anywhere near what they were in classic Secret Wars.

1. Not really:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125547/3449157-owen.jpg

2. Current Owen is powerful enough to kill Lifebringer Galactus with a thought, create a new Marvel Omniverse, and shove the previous Marvel Omniverse into a box. He's as powerful as ever.

owen is one of if not the most powerful character in comics behind TOAA but im pretty sure the 5th dimension still wins its on a whole different plane of power

Owen crushes the 5D imp.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Owen crushes the 5D imp.

isnt the 5th dimension still more powerful than anything on ours?

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
isnt the 5th dimension still more powerful than anything on ours?

In the DC Universe maybe.

The Marvel Characters doesn't have a hierarchy accorded to the number of dimensions.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
2. Current Owen is powerful enough to kill Lifebringer Galactus with a thought, create a new Marvel Omniverse, and shove the previous Marvel Omniverse into a box. He's as powerful as ever.

True

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/5196378-13.jpg

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/5196374-1304803403-RCO01.jpg

Mxy.

Mxy pulled a Universe out of his hat while Molecule Man pulled a Omniverse out of his.

MM Stomps.

No.

Mxy: http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/125547/3077211-action_15_thegroup_014.jpg

Molecule Man: http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11114/111142536/5196374-1304803403-RCO01.jpg

Molecule Man is out of Mxy's paygrade.

Rekt

That's not even close to Mxy's limit.

^

Yup. That was my point.

Molecule Man, unless he actually has been de-powered recently.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^

Yup. That was my point.

It'll probably end up in some kind of stalemate.

Mxy has toon force BS to grant the win.

MM, easily.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Mxy has toon force BS to grant the win.

True. Mxy will probably take MM to Earth Prime and erase him. Lol

Draw

lol some poster don't read the actual comics of the scan they posted
that's MM showing a visual hologram representation of the omniverse trying to make a point, not the literal actual omniverse in the box

regard to this thread, mxy stomps