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What if the entire Saiyan race was in Oozaru form, and attacked base Freeza?

Then they'd lose.

Yep. Oozaru form only increases their power by 10 fold, whereas base Frieza was 530,000, so still out of their league.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yep. Oozaru form only increases their power by 10 fold, whereas base Frieza was 530,000, so still out of their league.

Even that's questionable enough. Saiyan Saga Vegeta being strong enough to Goku the Ginyu Force strikes me as odd.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Even that's questionable enough. Saiyan Saga Vegeta being strong enough to Goku the Ginyu Force strikes me as odd.

Well no because Vegeta still has a HUGE Achilles heel with the tail. He loses mobility and agility. He also isn't super fast in that form. The Ginyu Force would curb that fool. With their speed and hax abilities, Vegeta would lose hard

But on topic Frieza would curb the entire race

Originally posted by cdtm
What if the entire Saiyan race was in Oozaru form, and attacked base Freeza? It'd still be a non-fight.

Freeza would annihilate the planet and it's populace with a finger-gesture.

Iirc Vegita as of the Saiyan Saga was stronger than any of the Saiyans that were killed on Vegita, so him only getting to 180,000 in Oozaru form and being the strongest of the race shows how little chance the Saiyans have

Yeah, Saiyan saga Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan of all time at that point. Even though the composite power level of all the Saiyan's on planet Vegeta was way higher than Frieza's total power level, it's still meaningless, because Frieza's power was so much denser since it's just in his body alone.

We've seen dozens of times, how futile it is for a bunch of weak opponents to gang up on one that is just strong enough to curb even the strongest of them. Piccolo Jr., Nappa, Cell, Broly, Buu, etc.

Even if all the Saiyan's were up there, attacking Frieza at once, all of their attacks would get absorbed by his "Death Ball", just like Bardock's did.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, Saiyan saga Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan of all time at that point.

What? No way.

There were numerous Super Saiyans that preceded him, not to mention the last Super Saiyan God.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, Saiyan saga Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan of all time at that point. Even though the composite power level of all the Saiyan's on planet Vegeta was way higher than Frieza's total power level, it's still meaningless, because Frieza's power was so much denser since it's just in his body alone.

We've seen dozens of times, how futile it is for a bunch of weak opponents to gang up on one that is just strong enough to curb even the strongest of them. Piccolo Jr., Nappa, Cell, Broly, Buu, etc.

Even if all the Saiyan's were up there, attacking Frieza at once, all of their attacks would get absorbed by his "Death Ball", just like Bardock's did. King Vegeta was the strongest, and it depends on the population of Planet Vegeta.

We know that Freeza's power level is 120,000,000.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
King Vegeta was the strongest, and it depends on the population of Planet Vegeta.

We know that Freeza's power level is 120,000,000.

I doubt King Vegita was stronger than his son as of his first fight with Goku

This is only First Form Frieza.

Child Vegeta > King Vegeta

Originally posted by cdtm
What if the entire Saiyan race was in Oozaru form, and attacked base Freeza?

It's a good thing being in space can mess with your sense of smell, because charred giant ape flesh probably doesn't smell very good.

I'm just kidding, they'll be vaporized.

They did say Freeza was afraid of the Saiyan race in masse.

And we've never really seen millions and millions of characters attack a higher level character all at once.

But we HAVE seen lower levelers affect upper levelers, to a point. Tenshinhan and Cell, Piccolo kicking away Freeza, Chibi Trunks kicking away Buu.

Piccolo and Krillin, at only 1,000 pl a piece, managed to rough up Nappa a little bit, and he had two-three thousand on them.

Freeza would just pop the planet. Even with billions of them they wouldn't be fast enough or strong enough to even react before he popped the globe. It's basically the same scenario as when he actually did blow the planet.

Freeza was a paranoid lunatic to even be in the realm of fear of their potential. They were so ridiculously below him he was an elephant paranoid over ants. It's a strong indicator of his spoiled kid personality.

Originally posted by cdtm
They did say Freeza was afraid of the Saiyan race in masse.

And we've never really seen millions and millions of characters attack a higher level character all at once.

But we HAVE seen lower levelers affect upper levelers, to a point. Tenshinhan and Cell, Piccolo kicking away Freeza, Chibi Trunks kicking away Buu.

Piccolo and Krillin, at only 1,000 pl a piece, managed to rough up Nappa a little bit, and he had two-three thousand on them.

To be fair Frieza was afraid of their potential. After each fight they grew more powerful. One day, a group of them might be able to challenge him. At that point though, they couldn't come close even working together during a full moon

Originally posted by Jmanghan
King Vegeta was the strongest, and it depends on the population of Planet Vegeta.

We know that Freeza's power level is 120,000,000. No.

Vegeta was the most powerful Saiyan at the time(by FAR), and stated that he had already surpassed his father's power when he was just a kid:
http://i.imgur.com/flky6Zd.jpg

...And as of the Saiyan saga, Vegeta's PL = 18,000.


For a Saiyan to even remotely rival base Freeza, their PL would have to be ~50,000. NO Saiyan in that era had a PL remotely close to that. And thanks to DB's "numbers don't matter; weaker is weaker" ideology, Freeza rape-stomps the planet just like he did before.


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-09-2015/5l8N5A.gif

Originally posted by NewGuy01
What? No way.

There were numerous Super Saiyans that preceded him, not to mention the last Super Saiyan God.

So? We don't know any of their power levels. All we know is that the Super Saiyan God wasn't able to beat an army of Great Ape's. Meaning that he was probably utter trash before going God, and wasn't that great afterwards.

Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan that we know the power level of, up until that point.

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

Vegeta was the most powerful Saiyan at the time(by FAR), and stated that he had already surpassed his father's power when he was just a kid:
http://i.imgur.com/flky6Zd.jpg

...And as of the Saiyan saga, Vegeta's PL = 18,000.


For a Saiyan to even remotely rival base Freeza, their PL would have to be ~50,000. NO Saiyan in that era had a PL remotely close to that. And thanks to DB's "numbers don't matter; weaker is weaker" ideology, Freeza rape-stomps the planet just like he did before.


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-09-2015/5l8N5A.gif But there are also aspects of DBZ like combining blasts, and giving power to a single target.

Lets say all the Saiyans on Planet Vegeta gave their power to aid King Vegeta, he would be more then powerful enough to take on at least a few forms of Frieza.

This is counting people like Prince Vegeta, Bardock and others, as well as the possible boost the Great Ape transformation will give him.

Though, it depends on if the Saiyans even know the technique.

Th3y would get blitzed way before that happened.

Doesn't beget have baby broly? He can tank a freeza blast.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Though, it depends on if the Saiyans even know the technique. ...Which there is absolutely NO proof of.

At the time Freeza destroyed the planet, Saiyans were, like, one step above Stone Age barbarians. It's quite doubtful that they even knew how to control their ki in a precise manner -- let alone that they had mastered complex techniques, like ki-lending. If that would've been an option, King Vegeta would have certainly rebelled against/destroyed Freeza.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Doesn't beget have baby broly? He can tank a freeza blast.
Baby Broly instinctively activated a barrier around him and his father when Frieza destroyed the planet, so he wasn't tanking it. He's non-canon though, so not really a factor here.

Plus he has a pl of 10,000. Even as an Oozaru he wouldn't threaten Frieza any more than Vegita

Man, I remember back in the day how people talked about Broly being born with a PL of 10,000 gave him the greatest potential ever and such... Well Frieza ended up shitting on that even since it turns out he never had to train a day in his life till RoF and thus was born with his power level, and 530,000 was only his most suppressed form. Even the legendary super saiyan looks like a little b*tch compared to Frieza now in the long run.

I'm just curious how much his PL naturally increased from infancy to adulthood(if at all)..? Shit, even if it increased 10,000x over, that still gives Freeza a PL of 12,000 at birth, lol.

Wonder what PL Beerus was born with.

Beerus/Gods are obviously a completely different case than mortals.

True.

Hit tho

I imagine Beerus was pretty different (in power and whatnot) before he was trained by Whis and became God of Destruction.

Man I really just want to see what Beerus/Whis/Daishinkan are capable of.

Like, why the hell would you show The Omni King's true power before showing their true power?