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Maul stomps

In all honesty I think this would be a close match. Probably Maul in the end though.

Maul absolutely dominates him

Maul after a decent fight.

Originally posted by MythLord
Maul after a decent fight.

This would be a replay of Jinn on Tatooine, except Obi-Wan would die more quickly.

Not seeing how. He's fought Maul before and has access to Soresu. That's a pretty big advantage over Qui-Gon - he's definitely lasting longer.

If Obi-Wan was already a near-equal to Qui-Gon in TPM, it doesn't make much sense that he wouldn't have surpassed him in AotC, given that he's at such a young age that he wouldn't be hitting random stumps or diminishing returns, and we know Obi-Wan's potential exceeds Qui-Gon's. And as much as the Clone Wars is a period of accelerated growth, it doesn't make much sense for Obi-Wan to have grown much more in 3 years than in 10.

That, and he had an arguably better performance against Dooku than Qui-Gon did against Maul, taking into account Dooku's encyclopedic form knowledge on Obi-Wan's Ataru, that Obi-Wan was fatigued (at least for the junior novel's interpretation) and the fact that Tyranus is a better swordsman than Maul.

Well yeah, if we base all of our assumptions on false premises then AotC Kenobi could be better than Jinn. Issue is, there's no real evidence for it. And he wasn't quite a near equal, just close.

There's no false premise. Comparing his showing against Dooku to Qui-Gon's showing against Maul is perfectly valid.

Darth Maul.

Dooku wasn't going all out against Kenobi, so the comparison falls flat.

Which leaves us only with Dooku "expecting better" from Jinn's Padawan.

Yeah, that's the problem with the comparison I was hinting at earlier, although it seems to be contradicted by some sources. And it's probably made up for Obi-Wan's exhaustion, at least in the junior novel.

In any case, Jinn's performance against Maul on Tatooine doesn't set a very high benchmark.

Dooku always seemed to play with Obi-Wan, Maul was just straight up hammering Jinn down on Tatooine.

Originally posted by MythLord
Maul after a decent fight.

Maul wins.

Maul a level 8, Kenobi still only a level 7 at this point. So Maul wins and it's not particularly close.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, that's the problem with the comparison I was hinting at earlier, although it seems to be contradicted by some sources. And it's probably made up for Obi-Wan's exhaustion, at least in the junior novel.

In any case, Jinn's performance against Maul on Tatooine doesn't set a very high benchmark. Yet he still falls short, sad.

Originally posted by ILS
Well yeah, if we base all of our assumptions on false premises then AotC Kenobi could be better than Jinn. Issue is, there's no real evidence for it. And he wasn't quite a near equal, just close.

AotC Kenobi is as powerful as Windu uhuh

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
AotC Kenobi is as powerful as Windu uhuh
Okay.
That puts Dooku faaar above Windu

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Okay.
That puts Dooku faaar above Windu


Nah it only puts AOTC Dooku faaar abov AOTC Windu

lol TPM Obi was a decent enough challenge for Maul, enough to break his saber and put him on the defensive for a brief period. ATOC Obi Wan would beat Maul pretty handily.

Originally posted by relentless1
lol TPM Obi was a decent enough challenge for Maul, enough to break his saber and put him on the defensive for a brief period.


Yeah that's exactly how it happened

yup, watch the fight again, only a Force push put the fight solidly back in Mauls favour.

the point is that palawan Obi was at least at a competitive level, ATOC Obi is 10 years better; how does he not beat Maul in all honesty

Because Obi-Wan wasn't on a competitive level at all. Hence why him and his Master together were barely a match for Maul.

Just because right at the end Obi-Wan put up a bit of a fight and landed one good hit in a rage induced fit, doesn't mean him and Maul were near equals. In fact Qui-Gon was > Kenobi in TPM.

Obviously not, watch the fight dude, Kenobi was pressing the fight the entire time they were 1v1, just because Qui Got was the master doesnt mean he was a superior fighter and the two different 1v1 fights showed that, or didn't you see the looks of fatigue on Qui Hons face??

an argument can be made that Obi was actually faster than Maul, when he jumped from the pit and bisected Maul it was done in the same shitty filming style that was used to display Palpatines speed when he killed 3 out of 4 Jedi sent to arrest him. Just because GL doesnt know how to relate speed on camera doesnt mean it can be disregarded.

Originally posted by relentless1
Obviously not, watch the fight dude, Kenobi was pressing the fight the entire time they were 1v1, just because Qui Got was the master doesnt mean he was a superior fighter and the two different 1v1 fights showed that, or didn't you see the looks of fatigue on Qui Hons face??



I suggest you go back and watch the entire 3 way fight, instead of just the bits you like.

Obi-Wan couldn't keep up which is why Qui-Gon died. Without Qui-Gon there, Obi-Wan was no Match for Maul at all.

lol yeah, Obi Wan got kicked and fell to a different level, later on he's caught by that same kick and he clearly learned from it or was in a better position because he backflipped and put the pressure right back on Maul... its very clear that Obi was the better fighter out of the two Jedi, yes Maul was better but not by much clearly as he got cut in half. Part of that was certainly his hubris but you can't deny that Obi Wan was taking the fight to Maul way better that Qui Gon did, he pressed maul the entire time and you can't ignore that bro.

I think Maul would win in a pretty close fight.

Originally posted by relentless1
lol yeah, Obi Wan got kicked and fell to a different level, later on he's caught by that same kick and he clearly learned from it or was in a better position because he backflipped and put the pressure right back on Maul... its very clear that Obi was the better fighter out of the two Jedi, yes Maul was better but not by much clearly as he got cut in half. Part of that was certainly his hubris but you can't deny that Obi Wan was taking the fight to Maul way better that Qui Gon did, he pressed maul the entire time and you can't ignore that bro.


Yes he got kicked to a different level. Got competely disarmed and was helpless. If Maul wasn't fighting Qui-Gon, then Obi-Wan was dead at that point. Obi-Wan couldn't keep up with Qui-Gon and Maul, simply because he was the weakest combatant on the field.


Then Obi-Wan fights Maul again in a rage enhanced state, and still loses.

You say Maul getting cut in half proves Kenobi was close, yet he did it with Qui-Gon's Lightsaber. More undeniable proof that without Qui-Gon Kenobi couldn't compete or win.

You claim it's obvious that a Kenobi with 10 years more experience would be better than Maul, yet a Kenobi with over 10 years more experience was still seriously struggling to defeat a Maul who'd been doing nothing for the last 10 years in TCW.

So yeah TPM Maul > AOTC Kenobi > TPM Kenobi.

Case closed.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes he got kicked to a different level. Got competely disarmed and was helpless. If Maul wasn't fighting Qui-Gon, then Obi-Wan was dead at that point. Obi-Wan couldn't keep up with Qui-Gon and Maul, simply because he was the weakest combatant on the field.


Then Obi-Wan fights Maul again in a rage enhanced state, and still loses.

You say Maul getting cut in half proves Kenobi was close, yet he did it with Qui-Gon's Lightsaber. More undeniable proof that without Qui-Gon Kenobi couldn't compete or win.

You claim it's obvious that a Kenobi with 10 years more experience would be better than Maul, yet a Kenobi with over 10 years more experience was still seriously struggling to defeat a Maul who'd been doing nothing for the last 10 years in TCW.

So yeah TPM Maul > AOTC Kenobi > TPM Kenobi.

Case closed.

Don't waste your time on these kind of guys man, I mean we know TPM Maul > Qui-Gon > TPM Obi-Wan by statements so just neglect the people who try to use extreme mental gymnastics to prove otherwise

^ Was knew me of clear from the film as well, but obviously not to everyone. So whatever.

But yeah nice to have the novelisation confirming the obvious.

Kenobi already beat him in TPM.

What is that skirt wearing pussy going to do? Obi wan stomps