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I heard somewhere that the starheart was a multiversal power back in the silver age. so how does it stack up next to the infinity gauntlet?

Originally posted by Don Draper
I heard somewhere that the starheart was a multiversal power back in the silver age. Omniversal, actually:
http://i.imgur.com/vwa4yorm.jpg
-Green Lantern v2 #112 (1979)


IG stomps, though.

wow, G, I'm taken back by your post. #edit: with a pondering slight smile.

Why?

"IG stomps?" ... that's phukin beautiful! You understand/know the IG as clearly I do.

IG, is ... is a special case. (well, Starlin's IG that is)

Unless that Panther incident had something to do with him, and not the IG.
Otherwise, IG (well, Starlin's IG) simply will not lose unless "The" God's power is involved. (whateva amount)

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#edit: wait, I just noticed that the term "omniverse" is being used in DC back then, wow.
Obviously this wasn't the "norm" for DC's cosmological make-up, but it is dope.

Marvel has many mentions of the term before it was officially canonized in 92'

Well, the main reason I think the IG stomps is because the Starheart has never done anything on par with it, despite its implied power.

Statements only go so far when compared to actual feats. Had the Starheart ever acted in a true Omniversal capacity, this would be a different story.

Originally posted by Mr Master
#edit: wait, I just noticed that the term "omniverse" is being used in DC back then, wow.
Obviously this wasn't the "norm" for DC's cosmological make-up, but it is dope.

Marvel has many mentions of the term before it was officially canonized in 92' Yeah, I'd have to do some digging to be 100% sure, but I do believe that was DC's first official mentioning of an Omniverse(not too many people are aware of that scene.) Of course, back then the Omniverse was loosely-defined, and simply a blanket term used to describe all of creation... Which is basically what the term 'Multiverse' described in DC as well.

The IG was never Omniversal like the LT was. Thanos was capable of Multiversal level feats but he had his limits.

He loses, plain and simple.

Horrific logic once again, tosh.

Thanos loses.

Originally posted by t0sh
Thanos loses. Based on ?

Christ. facepalm

Thanos has no feats with the word 'omniversal' slapped on it.

Omniverse means everything in existence.

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146744/2804694-marvel_universe___the_end__5_02.jpg

Thanos with the IG still had limited control.

He loses.

Originally posted by t0sh
Thanos has no feats with the word 'omniversal' slapped on it. Horrendous logic.

Thanos was destined to lose the IG he was mature enough for it.

Thanos has limited control as he stated in the scan above. He never had omniversal level control.

He loses.

Bring some counter arguments or shdap.

Originally posted by t0sh
Thanos has limited control as he stated in the scan above. He never had omniversal level control.

He loses.

Bring some counter arguments or shdap. Thanos wins based off his feats and abilities. Easily. Thanos alters his soul, etc. nothing you say even makes sense. How old are you ?

Thanos has no omniversal level feats.

He loses by default.

Originally posted by t0sh
Thanos has no omniversal level feats.

He loses by default. Since when does he need any to defeat Alan here. Try making sense, guy.

Girl and it took the LT to defeat Thanos, he's Omniversal. Alan wins by default.

Or did the OP make a post with a winner in mind? In that scenario how about I flag you for intentionally making a spite thread?

Originally posted by t0sh
Girl and it took the LT to defeat Thanos, he's Omniversal. Alan wins by default.

Or did the OP make a post with a winner in mind? In that scenario how about I flag you for intentionally making a spite thread? What ? Try speaking in English, guy.

You are weird but your logic is hideous.

Show me Thanos performing Omniversal feats.

Originally posted by t0sh
Show me Thanos performing Omniversal feats. Why on earth would I since this has no bearing on who wins. Your tiny brain doesn't even grasp the obvious. Should I use smaller words ?

Show me Thanos being referred to as an Omniversal level threat.

Originally posted by t0sh
Show me Thanos being referred to as an Omniversal level threat. When did I say he did ? Small enough for you, guy.

Show me anything whatsoever where Thanos does anything that approaches Omniversal levels with the Infinity Gauntlet.

Originally posted by t0sh
Show me anything whatsoever where Thanos does anything that approaches Omniversal levels with the Infinity Gauntlet. I never claimed he Dani claimed he wins this thread. You need a little help there, guy.

So you have no evidence to suggest Thanos wins.

Therefore Alan wins by default.

Originally posted by t0sh
So you have no evidence to suggest Thanos wins.

Therefore Alan wins by default. He alters his soul. How does Alan resist ?

Alan is omniversal, he's beyond Thanos.

(insert common sense here)

Originally posted by t0sh
Alan is omniversal, he's beyond Thanos.

(insert common sense here) horrendous logic. Superman is more powerful than Xavoer does that make him immune to his mind attacks. Nah. Try to show a semblance of intellignrce in the future, boy.

Originally posted by t0sh
Alan is omniversal, he's beyond Thanos.

(insert common sense here)

Originally posted by t0sh
You don't have a shred of common sense. Thanos can alter his soul to be his slave how can Alan resist ? You're awfully simple I'm afraid.

Originally posted by t0sh

Omniverse means everything in existence.

Thanos with the IG still had limited control.
Originally posted by t0sh

Thanos has limited control as he stated in the scan above.
... That's utterly false friend. The scan doesn't suggest that at all.

In fact, the scan tells us Thanos controlled EVERYTHING!

"The IG had granted me mastery of ALL time, space, power, reality, the mind and the soul, but it was external control."

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30539884_duh.jpg

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The only difference between the IG and the HOTI is: "The" God status/authority.

Starlin's IG makes you God over everything except TOAA (or a representative of its power).

The HOTI is a direct manifestation of TOAA's power, which not only turns you into the omniverse,
but furthermore, an iota of TOAA's power > all/everything/anything that has ever been in Marvel.
Originally posted by t0sh

Thanos has no omniversal level feats.
Guess you're not aware of Thanos' "actuality ripple."

You guys do realize that at no point in time did pre-Crisis Alan possess the full power of starheart, right? He only possessed an infinitesimal portion of it, so im not sure what's the point of this thread.

The only time Alan scott did possess its full power is post-Crisis and even then he wasn't that impressive except for the last few years in the pre-Flashpoint continuity where he was around regular Thanos level. IG Thanos is in a completely different league.

But even if we assume PC Alan did possess it somehow, (PC) Hal resisted the full force of the Starheart's attacks iirc, so im sure IG Thanos can as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
horrendous logic. Superman is more powerful than Xavoer does that make him immune to his mind attacks. Nah. Try to show a semblance of intellignrce in the future, boy.

Charles Xavier?

Well, one of his rogues WAS the very buff tp monster Milton Fine Brainiac..

But I get what you're saying here..

Originally posted by cdtm
Charles Xavier?

Well, one of his rogues WAS the very buff tp monster Milton Fine Brainiac..

But I get what you're saying here.. Tosh is only here to be ridiculous and it's enjoyable for me to destroy this thing.

Originally posted by operator616
You guys do realize that at no point in time did pre-Crisis Alan possess the full power of starheart, right? He only possessed an infinitesimal portion of it, so im not sure what's the point of this thread.

The only time Alan scott did possess its full power is post-Crisis and even then he wasn't that impressive except for the last few years in the pre-Flashpoint continuity where he was around regular Thanos level. IG Thanos is in a completely different league.

But even if we assume PC Alan did possess it somehow, (PC) Hal resisted the full force of the Starheart's attacks iirc, so im sure IG Thanos can as well. Seems like the intent of this thread is that Alan possesses the complete Starheart, but yeah, as I said in my very first post: the IG still stomps.

The only person arguing this fact is t0sh... Who is trolling just to troll. Not sure why anyone feeds into his bullshit. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Seems like the intent of this thread is that Alan possesses the complete Starheart, but yeah, as I said in my very first post: the IG still stomps.

The only person arguing this fact is t0sh... Who is trolling just to troll. Not sure why anyone feeds into his bullshit. /shrug

Yeah, The starheart sounds extremely powerful on paper (being the cumulative random magic of all creation) but it didn't actually do anything worth mentioning. And even when its full capabilities were utilized by Alan (in post-Crisis era) his showings weren't on par with its previously implied power.

Originally posted by operator616
Yeah, The starheart sounds extremely powerful on paper (being the cumulative random magic of all creation) but it didn't actually do anything worth mentioning. And even when its full capabilities were utilized by Alan (in post-Crisis era) his showings weren't on par with its previously implied power.

Thanos

Thanos stomps. Accept it, tosh.

Alan scott stomps

Originally posted by t0sh
Alan scott stomps Based on ?