CW Firestorm vs. Iron Man

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carthage
*Tony is in his armor from Age of Ultron (Mark 45??)

Who wins

Henry_Pym
Tony easily, FS is pretty slow and can't control his powers.

BruceSkywalker
Stark stomps and stomps hard

TheVaultDweller
Firestorm is powerful, but his durability is garbage. A single Speedforce lightning bolt laid his ass out, during the crossover event. Stark likely only needs one really good hit to win this.

juggernaut74
Didn't the same bolt put Supergirl on her ass?

TheVaultDweller
No, it dropped Firestorm and Atom, but Supergirl took it like a champ, before heat visioning Barry off the roof of Star Labs (which is actually a really solid durability feat for Barry, considering he was up and about shortly after).

Surtur
I thought FS can absorb energy? Assuming he has time to react. He took a nuke.

KingD19
He could also transmute Tony's armor once it gets h2h.

juggernaut74
He turned that alien bomb into water.

Surtur
Yeah, so IM's suit should be fair game. He needs to somehow put FS down before he can react.

TheVaultDweller
He has a bunch of ranged weapons, including guns, missiles, lasers and repulsors, as well as a built-in AI/targeting system. And the fact that Barry took Firestorm out with a lightning bolt shows that he can still be taken out by energy attacks, assuming he doesn't have time to prep. Also, he didn't exactly transmute that bomb very quickly. Tony could punch him in the face in much less than half the time it took him to do that.

KingD19
He immediately transmuted a rifle into sand though. So portions of the armor could be changed pretty quickly. The bomb was so big the waverider couldn't hold it up. That was hundreds of thousands of gallons of water he made at least.

Surtur
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He has a bunch of ranged weapons, including guns, missiles, lasers and repulsors, as well as a built-in AI/targeting system. And the fact that Barry took Firestorm out with a lightning bolt shows that he can still be taken out by energy attacks, assuming he doesn't have time to prep. Also, he didn't exactly transmute that bomb very quickly. Tony could punch him in the face in much less than half the time it took him to do that.

As for the lightning bolt, that is why I said he can absorb energy if he can react. He didn't have a chance to do that with the lightning. But then IM can't attack as quickly as Flash can.

tkitna
Originally posted by juggernaut74
He turned that alien bomb into water.

That's the only decent thing he has done on TV so far. I'm bummed that he's so underwhelming.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KingD19
He immediately transmuted a rifle into sand though. So portions of the armor could be changed pretty quickly. The bomb was so big the waverider couldn't hold it up. That was hundreds of thousands of gallons of water he made at least.

And Tony is going to just hover there and wait for it to happen? Tony has much better feats of flight speed and maneuverability compared to Firestorm, so he would have a hard time getting close enough. Not to mention Firestorm has used that ability in combat all of one time, and it surprised the hell out of him at the time (as it was his first time, and an accident), so it's not his go-to either. He prefers fireballing things.


Originally posted by Surtur
As for the lightning bolt, that is why I said he can absorb energy if he can react. He didn't have a chance to do that with the lightning. But then IM can't attack as quickly as Flash can.

He had time to prep to absorb the nuke. It's not like he did it while under fire. And it's not an instant attack. Flash still runs in a circle a bit first before launching those. Based on actual screen feats, things like Tony's lasers are, in fact, faster. We can compare screen feats if you want to. 1:43, at the bottom of the screen:

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