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Let's find out if members of this forums are knowledgeable about different stories/characters in movies/tv shows

So the challenge for you guys is to come up with another live-action character or team of characters who could defeat my team.

My Team

Tactics/Strategy/Tech/Resources:

Ozymandias - "Watchmen" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)

Clyde Shelton - "Law Abiding Citizen"

Jigsaw - "Saw"

Batman - "Batman V Superman (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat
Specialist)

Assault:

John Preston - "Equilibrium"

Smith - "Shoot 'Em Up"

John Wick - "John Wick"

Wesley Gibson - "Wanted"

CQC Specialists:

Ozymandias - "Watchmen"

Raizo - "Ninja Assassin"

V - "V for Vendetta"

Batman - "Batman v Superman"

Snake Eyes - "G.I Joe Rise of Cobra/Retaliation"

Storm Shadow - "G.I Joe Rise of Cobra/Retaliation"

Black Panther - "MCU Version"

Rules:

Your team must only consist of 8-15 live action human movie/tv series only characters (super powered/enhanced characters are not allowed example, superman, thor, iron man, captain america, wolverine , deadpool. darth vader etc, movie/tv adaptations of comic book characters are allowed aslong as they are still peak human or borderline superhuman, video game characters are not allowed, composite characters are not allowed)

Your team must hunt my team, but my team are aware that they are being hunted

Limited intel for both teams

both team's tech/weapons depends on how much resources they have

Both teams get 1 year of preparation

CIS off

PIS off

Morals off

Location: Tokyo Metropolitan Area

Provide some explanation on why your team beats mine

with those restrictions, character picks are too limited and unfair lol

your strat/tac/tech/resources department are nigh unpredictable with almost unlimited resources and those 4 are basically prep gods on their own right

your assault department has bullet time powers

your cqc department consists of superhumans in terms of strength, speed, durability & skill

i cant think of any characters that ca pull out a victory against yours with those restrictions lol

Seeing as you have Batman, why is Iron-man off limits?

People like Gibson, Black Panther, Raizo etc. have legit superstats/powers, but super-powered individuals are off limits for others? That makes this thread virtually impossible.

My team of humans ? The nine jaegar pilots from pacific rim. The torch the entire island of Japan. Come at me bra.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as you have Batman, why is Iron-man off limits?

his armor/suits makes him unstoppable, he could practically solo my team

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
People like Gibson, Black Panther, Raizo etc. have legit superstats/powers, but super-powered individuals are off limits for others? That makes this thread virtually impossible.

in terms of movie/comic they are still peak human.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
My team of humans ? The nine jaegar pilots from pacific rim. The torch the entire island of Japan. Come at me bra.

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-come-at-me-bro-brah-horse-pics.jpg

Originally posted by Drsoe08
his armor/suits makes him unstoppable, he could practically solo my team

Batman also has armor.

Walker Texas Ranger

GG get on my level

Originally posted by Silent Master
Batman also has armor.

batman took him years to develop it iirc and he doesnt need it anyway this fight.

while stark is always relying on his suits in terms of combat

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Walker Texas Ranger

GG get on my level


Bruce Lee

GG get on my levle lol

Originally posted by Drsoe08
batman took him years to develop it iirc and he doesnt need it anyway this fight.

while stark is always relying on his suits in terms of combat

So?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So?

hence stark is off limits

Originally posted by Drsoe08
Bruce Lee

GG get on my levle lol

I could start a Chuck vs Lee thread right now. But I'm not gonna.

You win this round...

But I'll be back. tomcat

So you disallow anyone from using superpowered characters while at the same time have Ozy, Black Panther, Raizo and Wesley on you team?

Quite an unfair matchup wouldn't you say? I mean, you even specifically disallowed Captain America who is roughly on the same level as BP.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you disallow anyone from using superpowered characters while at the same time have Ozy, Black Panther, Raizo and Wesley on you team?

Quite an unfair matchup wouldn't you say?

read my header. its a challenge on your part to build a team that can defeat mine with those restrictions

I pick War Machine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I pick War Machine.

war machine is basically iron man but different pilot

Originally posted by Drsoe08
http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-come-at-me-bro-brah-horse-pics.jpg
I graciously accept your surrender .

Originally posted by Drsoe08
war machine is basically iron man but different pilot

I pick Captain Kirk.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I graciously accept your surrender .

what defeat? lol

There was none. You surrendered.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
There was none. You surrendered.

i surrendered? when? lol

Originally posted by Drsoe08
in terms of movie/comic they are still peak human.

Except they're not. Normal people, even peak humans, cannot amp their stats/perception by increasing their heartrate, just to give one example. And the character of Black Panther was confirmed by the Russos, in an interview, to be enhanced to superhuman levels. Raizo was so fast he could move at blurring speeds, and even had some more exotic abilities, like using certain techniques to amp his healing/toughness. With the exception of healing, people like BP are also physically above people like Deadpool, but BP is in your team and Deadpool is off the table.

If you think Black Panther is peak human, then so is Cap and Bucky, which means they should be usable.

Originally posted by Drsoe08
i surrendered? when? lol
I posted a team and strategy that could win. You neglected to post any counter argument in favor for your team. In most competitions, if one team doesn't show up they forfeit and their opponents win.

Originally posted by Drsoe08
read my header. its a challenge on your part to build a team that can defeat mine with those restrictions

Yeah well then you made a pretty much lopsided thread. Black Panther is bullet proof, Raizo can move so fast that he can't be seen by the normal eye, Wesley can freaking curve bullets, but we're only allowed to utilize regular humans.

Now it would have been possible if our teams were given prep and your team wasn't, but you negated that by also giving your team prep. Not only that, you specified intel to just limited intel, which means our teams won't even be able to make in depth analysis and strategies of your team's strengths and weaknesses.
So yeah, you made a lopsided impossible thread.

John Matrix.

Suck my baos.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I posted a team and strategy that could win. You neglected to post any counter argument in favor for your team. In most competitions, if one team doesn't show up they forfeit and their opponents win.

how can the the jaeger pilots even match my teams combine strength/speed/durabitlity/skill/intellect w/o their mechs? kik

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Except they're not. Normal people, even peak humans, cannot amp their stats/perception by increasing their heartrate, just to give one example. And the character of Black Panther was confirmed by the Russos, in an interview, to be enhanced to superhuman levels. Raizo was so fast he could move at blurring speeds, and even had some more exotic abilities, like using certain techniques to amp his healing/toughness. With the exception of healing, people like BP are also physically above people like Deadpool, but BP is in your team and Deadpool is off the table.

If you think Black Panther is peak human, then so is Cap and Bucky, which means they should be usable.

by your description any action movie/tv heroes are superhuman hence any characters that will be presented here are off limits as per your standard

heres some link on whats the difference between a "peak human" and "superhuman" in movie/comic book sense

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Peak_Human_Condition

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Supernatural_Powers_and_Abilities

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah well then you made a pretty much lopsided thread. Black Panther is bullet proof, Raizo can move so fast that he can't be seen by the normal eye, Wesley can freaking curve bullets, but we're only allowed to utilize regular humans.

Now it would have been possible if our teams were given prep and your team wasn't, but you negated that by also giving your team prep. Not only that, you specified intel to just limited intel, which means our teams won't even be able to make in depth analysis and strategies of your team's strengths and weaknesses.
So yeah, you made a lopsided impossible thread.


lopsided thread? far from it, its a challenge, if you cant think of any characters that can battle mine then thats not my problem, (btw ive posted this vs thread in different sites and they didnt have any problems in forming a team that can take on mine its just shows that you have limited knowledge about other movies/tv shows.)

Originally posted by Drsoe08
how can the the jaeger pilots even match my teams combine strength/speed/durabitlity/skill/intellect w/o their mechs? kik
tech is limited to their resources. one of the pilots runs the facilities where they keep their mechs. Those groups are also sponsored by the Chinese, Russian, Australian, and american governments. I'm pretty sure they have the resources for their mechs.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
tech is limited to their resources. one of the pilots runs the facilities where they keep their mechs. Those groups are also sponsored by the Chinese, Russian, Australian, and american governments. I'm pretty sure they have the resources for their mechs.

so your team is gonna suit up on their mechs and just destroy all of japan? lol i dont think your teams sponsors will agree on that hence no resources no jaegers lol.

too late. already jacked the keys. Jaegar joyride. Also you got V. all governments hate v

Originally posted by Drsoe08
lopsided thread? far from it, its a challenge, if you cant think of any characters that can battle mine then thats not my problem, (btw ive posted this vs thread in different sites and they didnt have any problems in forming a team that can take on mine its just shows that you have limited knowledge about other movies/tv shows.)

Ah yes, resorting to insults. Classy man, just classy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ah yes, resorting to insults. Classy man, just classy.

in what way did i insult you?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
too late. already jacked the keys. Jaegar joyride. Also you got V. all governments hate v

*the norsefire hates V

Originally posted by Drsoe08
in what way did i insult you?



Here's a thought. How bout you try and build another team that can beat your team.

again did i insult you in that statement?

i just said that you have limited knowledge about other movies/tv shows, is that an insult?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's a thought. How bout you try and build another team that can beat your team.




here's an example from a poster from a different site.

Tacticians

Sherlock Holmes (RDJ)
Captain Jack Harkness (dr.who) *pre-heart of TARDIS amp*
Lyra Belacqua (golden compass)
Bob Lee Swagger (Shooter)
Assault

Fox (wanted)
Violet Song Jat Shariff (ultraviolet) ***will swap if you feel she is to powerful***
Hit girl (kick-ass)
Eggsy (kingsman)
Hawkeye (mcu)
CQC

Beatrix Kiddo (kill bill)
River Tam (Serenity)
Achilles (Troy)
Harry Hart (kingsman)
Rick O' connell (mummy trilogy)
The battle

you have a really well put together team....that said; mine would likely win.

tacticians

Lyra uses her alethiometer to gain full knowledge. (not immediately but within a years time, she would know everything about them)

Sherly and Swagger make IED/bombs as well as create attack formations/plans.

Jack supes up the gear of ppl like achilles/harry/rick/hitgirl who are stuck with crap from B.C - modern day.

assault

my girls+eggie take things to mid range as hawkeye shoot from further off

CQC

Ozy/BP are really the only threats here. You may scuff at Rick but he is actually surprisingly durable & fast for being my overall weakest link.

Knowledge is power for this fight. and with a year to prep and further learn everything i can about your team; i think this is in the bag.

plus my teams teamwork would be leap and bounds above yours; you have some nasty villains on w/ heroes. The closest thing my team has to a villain is Fox. (14 people for my team BTW)


here's another

DCEU Deadshot

Ong Bak

Affleck Daredevil

Black Dynamite

Pootie Tang

Origins Wade Wilson (pre experiment)

Zohan

MCU Falcon

Nick Fury

Captain Kirk
Captain Picard
Captian Sisko
Captain Janeway
Captain Archer

i would like to add doc brown as the tenth member of my team.

also how is captain jack not an enhanced individual but ironman is off the table?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
i would like to add doc brown as the tenth member of my team.

also how is captain jack not an enhanced individual but ironman is off the table?

the posters rationale for that is he only provides tech/resources for the team but in combat he was off limits.

okay.
I would like to add batman for my team(adam west edition)

Originally posted by Drsoe08
by your description any action movie/tv heroes are superhuman hence any characters that will be presented here are off limits as per your standard

heres some link on whats the difference between a "peak human" and "superhuman" in movie/comic book sense

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Peak_Human_Condition

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Supernatural_Powers_and_Abilities

Don't put words in my mouth. I was addressing specific characters that display abilities no human, peak or otherwise, can replicate. I am well aware of what the difference is. You're basically just ignoring canonical fact, such as what the Russos (the directors of CA:CW) confirmed about Black Panther, to suit your argument. Things like moving faster than the eye can see is not "near" superhuman, it is straight-up superspeed.

But hey, if you want to play it that way, my pick is the entire rest of the Fraternity from Wanted, including Cross and Mr X.

I'm going to take him ignoring my team as a concession.

thats what i've been doing

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
thats what i've been doing


llist your team again, provide some explanations

Originally posted by Silent Master
Captain Kirk
Captain Picard
Captian Sisko
Captain Janeway
Captain Archer

provide some explanation

Originally posted by Drsoe08
provide some explanation

Have you seen Star Trek?

Jaegar pilots+ doc brown+ Adam west's batman= time travelin giant robots armed to the titanium teeth with "anti-your-team-bat-spray"

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Jaegar pilots+ doc brown+ Adam west's batman= time travelin giant robots armed to the titanium teeth with "anti-your-team-bat-spray"

again the jaegers lol, how can they even have an access to those lol, they are UN property for goodness sake lol and those robots are not even qualified per rules lol

Originally posted by Silent Master
Have you seen Star Trek?

nope

how are they not? the jaegar project director is one of the pilots and the world government pretty much gave him the reins after the great wall of Australia went down.

Originally posted by Drsoe08
nope

Each of them command a starship.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm going to take him ignoring my team as a concession.

I find the "tech limited by their resources" vague as hell. Otherwise, I could say that pre-meta Cisco Ramon can solo, given a year to prep. He has access to all of StarLabs' resources, and he can build pretty much anything in the space of a few hours (he once built an alchemy gun in one afternoon, and mostly from stuff that was at his brother's house, IIRC). If he had a year, he could probably build something none of these guys would have a snowball's chance in hell of stopping.

BTW, does anyone really believe that he's never seen or heard of Star Trek?

I've only seen the reboot and galaxy quest. It's not that unheard of

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I've only seen the reboot and galaxy quest. It's not that unheard of

You really think he's never even seen a trailer for any of the new Star Trek movies?

I'd be hesitant to make any judgement based solely on a trailer even if he has.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'd be hesitant to make any judgement based solely on a trailer even if he has.

Do you agree that seeing a trailer would be enough to know that starships exist in Star Trek?

Originally posted by Drsoe08
here's an example from a poster from a different site.

Tacticians

Sherlock Holmes (RDJ)
Captain Jack Harkness (dr.who) *pre-heart of TARDIS amp*
Lyra Belacqua (golden compass)
Bob Lee Swagger (Shooter)
Assault

Fox (wanted)
Violet Song Jat Shariff (ultraviolet) ***will swap if you feel she is to powerful***
Hit girl (kick-ass)
Eggsy (kingsman)
Hawkeye (mcu)
CQC

Beatrix Kiddo (kill bill)
River Tam (Serenity)
Achilles (Troy)
Harry Hart (kingsman)
Rick O' connell (mummy trilogy)
The battle

you have a really well put together team....that said; mine would likely win.

tacticians

Lyra uses her alethiometer to gain full knowledge. (not immediately but within a years time, she would know everything about them)

Sherly and Swagger make IED/bombs as well as create attack formations/plans.

Jack supes up the gear of ppl like achilles/harry/rick/hitgirl who are stuck with crap from B.C - modern day.

assault

my girls+eggie take things to mid range as hawkeye shoot from further off

CQC

Ozy/BP are really the only threats here. You may scuff at Rick but he is actually surprisingly durable & fast for being my overall weakest link.

Knowledge is power for this fight. and with a year to prep and further learn everything i can about your team; i think this is in the bag.

plus my teams teamwork would be leap and bounds above yours; you have some nasty villains on w/ heroes. The closest thing my team has to a villain is Fox. (14 people for my team BTW)


here's another

DCEU Deadshot

Ong Bak

Affleck Daredevil

Black Dynamite

Pootie Tang

Origins Wade Wilson (pre experiment)

Zohan

MCU Falcon

Nick Fury

This answer already broke one of your stipulations though:



You said intel was limited. Are you saying that our teams can learn everything they can with the 1 year prep?

Also, none of the characters mentioned can really pose a threat to BP and Raizo can easily blitzed majority of them. So A+ on the effort of whomever made that team but it still won't stand a chance against yours.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you agree that seeing a trailer would be enough to know that starships exist in Star Trek? technically starships exist in our world soooo....yeah?

Originally posted by FrothByte
This answer already broke one of your stipulations though:



You said intel was limited. Are you saying that our teams can learn everything they can with the 1 year prep?

Also, none of the characters mentioned can really pose a threat to BP and Raizo can easily blitzed majority of them. So A+ on the effort of whomever made that team but it still won't stand a chance against yours.

lol... I just noticed he even included Zohan in that post. Yeah, this guy is "peak" human.

sF8ic3ALu04

Seriously, how the hell is Cap not allowed, but this guy is?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
technically starships exist in our world soooo....yeah?

If you're going to be this intellectually dishonest. I see no reason to continue.

ok sorry. having a cool starship in itself isn't as important as knowing what a starship can do which I personally think you can't know from simply watching a trailer. I've seen the new movies and i'm still not sure what the Enterprise is capable of.

out of curiosity, how many people does it take to pilot a star fleet ship effectively? whats the minimum?

Seeing as they have access to things like the ECH, they'd only need 1 and that 1 would only be needed to activate the ECH.

Dean Winchester
Sam Winchester
Wesley Wyndham-Pryce
Daredevil (Netflix)
Chuck Bartowski
Morgan Grimes
Sarah Walker
Punisher (Netflix)
Bill Cranston (Power Rangers Zeo)

No superhumans bar Daredevil, who doesn't break the cap, as he's only borderline. The Winchesters can find you anywhere using magical rituals, as your team has no way of shielding themselves. Morgan and Chuck working together can pretty much out-tech anyone, and there's essentially no limit on what Billy can design. Flying cars, teleporters, giant Zords...

Your only hope is if it became a straight up brawl, which it can't, since I edge you out on both tech and Intel.

Death Note live action.

Originally posted by Drsoe08
...
Your team must only consist of 8-15 live action human movie/tv series only characters (super powered/enhanced characters are not allowed example, superman, thor, iron man, captain america, wolverine , deadpool. darth vader etc, movie/tv adaptations of comic book characters are allowed aslong as they are still peak human or borderline superhuman, video game characters are not allowed, composite characters are not allowed)

...

Provide some explanation on why your team beats mine

Since your rules do not prohibit human magic users you are completely and utterly screwed.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Since your rules do not prohibit human magic users you are completely and utterly screwed.

That's actually a good point. His OP says zero about no magic, and the thread is on page 4, so he can't amend it now either. As per KMC MvF rules, you are only allowed to change stips within the first few posts.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Dean Winchester
Sam Winchester


Is plot armour from God himself considered a superpower?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Death Note live action.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Since your rules do not prohibit human magic users you are completely and utterly screwed.

Huh, good point. We can throw in guys like Voldemort, Gandalf, Galbatorix and the Ancient One.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Huh, good point. We can throw in guys like Voldemort, Gandalf, Galbatorix and the Ancient One.

Good point, I went the advanced tech route. but magic works too.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Since your rules do not prohibit human magic users you are completely and utterly screwed.

i think using magic can be also classified as having "powers/super powers" so as per rules no magic is allowed

Originally posted by 950Killer
i think using magic can be also classified as having "powers/super powers" so as per rules no magic is allowed

Not really. He said "superpowered/enhanced". Not "no magic". There tends to be a distinction. Someone like John Constantine from NBC/CW can use magic, but he is not even close to peak human in other regards. Plus, as in the example with the Winchesters, they can perform magical rituals, but they aren't considered "witches/warlocks" in their universe. It's just a means for them to get certain things done, whereas someone like Felicity Smoak from Arrow (and other more tech-based characters) would use hacking/tech to achieve a similar feat. It's different methods/techniques to achieve the same goal. If you disallow one, you have to disallow the others as well. Though, obviously, a degree of common sense is also needed. Someone like the Mask has powers originating in magic, but he can do things like swallow bombs without damage, and move at superhuman speed etc., so he is clearly also physically enhanced because of said power.

I wonder though, is someone like Scott Pilgrim allowed (seeing as Zohan apparently is)? Technically, he isn't an enhanced individual in his universe (there are other characters with explicit superpowers, like Todd Ingram), but he basically has toonforce.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I wonder though, is someone like Scott Pilgrim allowed (seeing as Zohan apparently is)? Technically, he isn't an enhanced individual in his universe (there are other characters with explicit superpowers, like Todd Ingram), but he basically has toonforce.

Or Adam West Batman.