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What tier would he be in the force and sabers?

Who would be able to beat him?

Who would he be able to beat?

Probably SOD Maul/ROTS Kenobi level.

Dooku level + in augmentation. Likely lower in offensive/defensive force capabilities.

Invisible hand Anakin level.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Invisible hand Anakin level.
WTF

Above Obi-Wan, as he was able to disarm Dooku, and Kenobi always comes out bad with Dooku. Heres the canon hierarchy of Jedi in terms of power

Anakin
Yoda
Mace Windu
Quinlan Vos
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Kit Fisto

I doubt Vos is above Obi-Wan, his win over Dooku, strikes me more as a form of a "stylistic" advantage more than anything else.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Invisible hand Anakin level.

Sounds about right.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I doubt Vos is above Obi-Wan, if strikes me more as a form of, "stylistic" advantage more than anything else.

Lmao.

DD Vos vs Obi Wan. Let's go.

Umm, nah.

I didn't actually read DD, as my info comes from the what's stated here, and CV. I'm not gonna debate blindly.

How dies it "strike" you as more a stylistic advantage if you haven't even read the passages in question...

No. I read the passage, but not the book.

lmao.

I think you should probably read the book to have full context before commenting tbh.

DD was pretty terrible, so nah.

I don't actually care if I'm wrong in my assumption, and I'd be happy if I was educated on the proper context.

I think it's pretty clear that Vos had shed his limitatons by that point. :P

But being completely honest it seems like he underwent a power growth of some kind given his... less then stellar performance against Dooku prior in the novel.

You're lecturing Deronn for not reading Dark Disciple before debating Quinlan Vos, when just yesterday you were debating against The Lost Jedi and admitted to never having played Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords?

This is gold.

Even though I personally believe Golden completely low-balled and humiliated Dooku in that book (being captured by Bossk comes to mind), I'd put Quinlan Vos when drawing from dark energy somewhere above Obi wan and below Windu in terms of force power. Saber wise I have him at Ventress level skill-wise and Savage level combat effectiveness.

Originally posted by AncientPower
You're lecturing Deronn for not reading Dark Disciple before debating Quinlan Vos, when just yesterday you were debating against The Lost Jedi and admitted to never having played Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords?

This is gold.

He was assuming the advantage Vos had was stylistic without broader context. I simply stated what the Inquisitors best feats were and that the Exile's companions would need better to logically defeat them.

The difference is pretty clear.

Vos > Kenobi.

I'd say around Dooku's level, or even stronger. After all he was confident enough that he thought he could take on Dooku's master alone. Granted that he had no idea Sidious was so powerful, he knew that he would have been stronger than his apprentice for sure, so he needed to be at least stronger than the count to even hope to have a chance against him. Maybe when Touching Darkness will be released next week we will have a better understanding of his abilities

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Vos > Ahsoka.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
I'd say around Dooku's level, or even stronger. After all he was confident enough that he thought he could take on Dooku's master alone. Granted that he had no idea Sidious was so powerful, he knew that he would have been stronger than his apprentice for sure, so he needed to be at least stronger than the count to even hope to have a chance against him. Maybe when Touching Darkness will be released next week we will have a better understanding of his abilities

Just because he thought he can take a person he had no knowledge on, doesn't mean he's better than someone who danced around him, lmao.

Maul/Ahsoka level.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Maul/Ahsoka level.

So < Kenobi

He'd still lose a duel tho.

Originally posted by Beniboybling


You contradict yourself phag.

Originally posted by MythLord
Just because he thought he can take a person he had no knowledge on, doesn't mean he's better than someone who danced around him, lmao. wait, it was Vos who was stated to dance around the count during their duel. Aniway, if You have just faced a person, and You are now going to face another person whom You have no knowledge on, but You know he/she is likely stronger than the former person, and You feel confident enough to take on said person, then it makes sense that you are stronger than the first person You faced. Agreed?

You mean how Dooku thought he's more powerful than Yoda? Yeah I'm not gona take dark siders opinion of themselves seriously.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
wait, it was Vos who was stated to dance around the count during their duel. Aniway, if You have just faced a person, and You are now going to face another person whom You have no knowledge on, but You know he/she is likely stronger than the former person, and You feel confident enough to take on said person, then it makes sense that you are stronger than the first person You faced. Agreed?



Except The Darkside does delude people into thinking they're all powerful. Especially those relatively new to the dark side. The jump Anakin made towards Obi-Wan comes to mind.

Originally posted by Ursumeles


Originally posted by cs_zoltan
So < Kenobi http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/82fc5520d195628ee236a49076bcb73e.gif

There's no need to be upset Joker, Assoka is still moderately competent.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except The Darkside does delude people into thinking they're all powerful. Especially those relatively new to the dark side. The jump Anakin made towards Obi-Wan comes to mind. Sigh, You are right. I still think he 's around Dooku's, or Kenobi's level, so high tier 8, low tier 9 material

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
There's no need to be upset Joker, Assoka is still moderately competent. can't say the same for kenobi

Originally posted by |King Joker|
can't say the same for kenobi
Yes, he is more than "moderately" competent.

youre so boring, you know i meant the opposite you ****

Secretly you want to say:
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I love you

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Sigh, You are right. I still think he 's around Dooku's, or Kenobi's level, so high tier 8, low tier 9 material



I wouldn't put him in tier 9 tbh. That tier is for the super elite.

You don't think defeating Dooku would constitute such a ranking?

Originally posted by Total Warrior
wait, it was Vos who was stated to dance around the count during their duel. Aniway, if You have just faced a person, and You are now going to face another person whom You have no knowledge on, but You know he/she is likely stronger than the former person, and You feel confident enough to take on said person, then it makes sense that you are stronger than the first person You faced. Agreed?

No, Dooku was dancing around Vos and Asajj when they faced him together. Only when Quin gets enraged -- which is a significant amp -- does he actually proceed to defeat Tyranus.

Quinlan commenting on someone he has no knowledge on has absolutely zero to do with where he stands in relation to Dooku, and using that as proof he's ahead of Tyranus is cancer.

Originally posted by MythLord
Only when Quin gets enraged -- which is a significant amp -- does he actually proceed to defeat Tyranus. Are you talking about the Raxus fight or the one on the Separatist warship?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You don't think defeating Dooku would constitute such a ranking?


The ranking is for Sabers only. Anakin overpowered Dooku in Sabers in TCW, but he clearly wasn't a match for Yoda or Sidious in yet.

Yes, Yoda/Sidious is the kind of super elite I'm talking about when it comes to Level 9's.

Even Mace has recently been said by Gillard to be on the border of Levels 8 & 9, so not a flat out 9 like Yoda and Palpatine.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Are you talking about the Raxus fight or the one on the Separatist warship?

I think both are with Quin being angry. Or he's angry in one, but the other is godawfully written... Pick a side, I guess.

Originally posted by MythLord
I think both are with Quin being angry. Or he's angry in one, but the other is godawfully written... Pick a side, I guess. Yeah, during the Raxus fight Vos is angry, and then in the second 1v1 without Asajj on the warship there's the "Dooku overextends" crap (but I don't recall Vos having a rage-amp during the second fight).

He doesn't. Wolf just doesn't like the fact that Dooku was beaten.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The ranking is for Sabers only. Anakin overpowered Dooku in Sabers in TCW, but he clearly wasn't a match for Yoda or Sidious in yet.

He's clearly not a match for them at any point in his life.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yeah, during the Raxus fight Vos is angry, and then in the second 1v1 without Asajj on the warship there's the "Dooku overextends" crap (but I don't recall Vos having a rage-amp during the second fight).

He's obviously fighting on a higher level than usual since just days prior he got danced around by Tyranus.

Originally posted by MythLord
He's obviously fighting on a higher level than usual since just days prior he got danced around by Tyranus. Raxus was months prior, IIRC.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Raxus was months prior, IIRC.

Was it? mmm

Christie does a poor job of letting the time fly by, then... The entire battle either way is written awfully and it even rivals rage!Anakin's performance.

Yeah, there's several months between Vos getting captured on Raxus and Vos confronting Dooku on the warship.

DD is horrible, yeah.

Originally posted by MythLord
Was it? mmm

Christie does a poor job of letting the time fly by, then... The entire battle either way is written awfully and it even rivals rage!Anakin's performance. Between the battle on Raxus and Assajj's rescue mission there is a 10 days gap, then we are told that Ventress is contacted by the Jedi order 1 month after this event. This is the last temporal coordinate we are given, however we know in the meantime Vos not only became Dooku's dark disciple, but also an (in)famous separatist general who scorred so many victories to draw the republic's attention and interest and became a priority target. Doubt he could achieve so much in a few days, so at least some months between the two duels seems a good estimate, but as far as we know it could be 1 year too (sounds a bit too much to me, but still, there is nothing that contradicts it). The only thing we know for sure is that it happened at least more than 1 month and 10 days later.

NORMAL Vos in DD is around Ventress level.

AMPED DD Vos is above Dooku.