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Two scenarios 1.No teleporting Daredevil/w Baton vs Nightcrawler/w Sword. 2.Teleporting on but DD gets his baton. Who wins?

dd kills him in both scenarios without much trouble imo. sound and smell would be a dead give away and he is far more skilled than nc.

NC is skilled and should be faster and more agile.

NC cannot be underestimated, especially after he "came back from the dead".

it would be tough anyways. how is NC after he's been resurrected? im still around the time of Siege in comics and trying to catch up. can't wait to see him back in action

Originally posted by leonidas
dd kills him in both scenarios without much trouble imo. sound and smell would be a dead give away and he is far more skilled than nc.


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Originally posted by leonidas
dd kills him in both scenarios without much trouble imo. sound and smell would be a dead give away and he is far more skilled than nc.
What?? *Everyone* with senses can hear and smell Nightcrawler's bamfs, you don't need to be supersensitive for that. Why would DD's ability to hear and smell him even more intensely than the average Joe provide any kind of advantage? If anything, it should be more disorienting for him than for the average Joe.

Originally posted by Magnon
What?? *Everyone* with senses can hear and smell Nightcrawler's bamfs, you don't need to be supersensitive for that. Why would DD's ability to hear and smell him even more intensely than the average Joe provide any kind of advantage? If anything, it should be more disorienting for him than for the average Joe.

Kurts bamfs have been predicted before due to smell/sound/pattern.

Originally posted by Magnon
What?? *Everyone* with senses can hear and smell Nightcrawler's bamfs, you don't need to be supersensitive for that. Why would DD's ability to hear and smell him even more intensely than the average Joe provide any kind of advantage? If anything, it should be more disorienting for him than for the average Joe.

yeah but as soon as NC bamfd in DD would know where even if below above behind etc. NC almost always gets taken down by having a noticeable pattern of porting in and out of battle. couple that with DD senses NC would be teleporting into a roundhouse kick to the face.

But pretty much *everyone* can hear/smell Kurt's bamfs. Why would DD in particular benefit from it? Kurt has done well vs. skilled martial artists who could hear and smell him just fine.

yes DD is used to reacting in 360 degree as he can see all the areas surrounding him not including having better senses and reactions. which is really DD claim to fame.

he is reacting to the smell as soon as the portal opens as opposed to smelling the portal and just knowing where NC will be

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Kurts bamfs have been predicted before due to smell/sound/pattern.

Pfft. DD doesn't even need smells/sounds/patterns

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Originally posted by Magnon
What?? *Everyone* with senses can hear and smell Nightcrawler's bamfs, you don't need to be supersensitive for that. Why would DD's ability to hear and smell him even more intensely than the average Joe provide any kind of advantage? If anything, it should be more disorienting for him than for the average Joe.

It provided an advantage for Wolverine.

@saint

Nice scan

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It provided an advantage for Wolverine.

http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t/23143349_3524791-2878235-wolverine_nightcrawler2.jpg

I wouldn't trust Kurt against elite mmas with enhanced senses or spidey.

http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t/23143354_ironfist-nc-smellteleport.jpg

http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t/23143357_spideync.jpg

He's had quite an even fight with NC in his own comic.

Anyway, Kurt has shown us in his recent fight with Sabes that when he means business, he's deadly af... problem is, he eventually lost that fight too in the end, afaik. But Creed is Creed, and DD is DD...

Full capacity & current versions rules basically give Kurt the win here.