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Obi.

shan

Satele Shan, yeah.

I see no reason to put Shan > Obi tbh.

Absorbing lightsaber blades > and absorption feat Kenobi sports.

Casually crushing hex droids > any of Kenobi's TK feats

Satele.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Absorbing lightsaber blades > and absorption feat Kenobi sports.

Casually crushing hex droids > any of Kenobi's TK feats

How durable are hex droids again? I know they're decently impressive in this regard.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Casually crushing hex droids > any of Kenobi's TK feats lol

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
How durable are hex droids again? I know they're decently impressive in this regard.

I'll have to scan through the book to be sure, but I recall it deflecting blaster fire, no selling Eldon Ax's lightning and resisting an enraged Eldon's Force crush more powerfully than durasteel.

Originally posted by ILS
lol
You can laugh, but it's true.

Kenobi, lmao.

Originally posted by Azronger
Kenobi, lmao.
Y?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Casually crushing hex droids > any of Kenobi's TK feats
Manipulating 70m ships pre-prime for a long period, , TKing whatever it was with Anakin's help a decade pre-prime etc. are better, lol

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Manipulating 70m ships pre-prime for a long period,
When?


Originally posted by Ursumeles
TKing whatever it was with Anakin's help a decade pre-prime etc. are better, lol

What?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
When?




What?
Wildspace.

Wait a second.

Obi-Shan wins.

Shit, that is an excellent showing. Wasn't aware of it's existence honestly.

Mind posting the relevant quote?


Alright, lal.

Blowing up Durge, who laughs off rockets, grenades and hundreds of blaster bolts is better than scrapping droids.

Lifting/dragging starships which are in motion, from the cockpit, using TK (he's done this on two occasions) is better than scrapping droids.

Tearing down (and thus uprooting) that massive tree in seconds (the tree's height is many times that of the dreadnought Anakin moved, for the record) is better.

Holding up that massive ship (probably worth like three starfighters) alongside Anakin pre-AotC is better.

And don't even get me started on scaling from other people. Satele's out of her depth.

"Lifting/dragging starships which are in motion, from the cockpit, using TK (he's done this on two occasions) is better than scrapping droids."

Quotes?

"Tearing down (and thus uprooting) that massive tree in seconds (the tree's height is many times that of the dreadnought Anakin moved, for the record) is better."

Calc?

Not questioning that it happened just want the proof so I can use it myself.

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=0f58d7-1482008748.png
Can't post it normally, lmao.
Edit: And http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111178634/5496134-pulls+an+aircraft.jpg

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"Lifting/dragging starships which are in motion, from the cockpit, using TK (he's done this on two occasions) is better than scrapping droids."

Quotes?

"Tearing down (and thus uprooting) that massive tree in seconds (the tree's height is many times that of the dreadnought Anakin moved, for the record) is better."

Calc?

Not questioning that it happened just want the proof so I can use it myself. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11126/111265303/4928967-tk+lifts+jedi+fighter+by+the+nose.png Urs posted the other ship guiding feat

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-nox-vs-obi-wan-kenobi-1810417/?page=2#js-message-17211770

Thanks.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Obi-Shan wins.

This.

Good to see he's getting more support on the forums now instead of just being the guy that automatically loses Force rounds.

Nova... You're aware NG was being humorous by saying "Obi-Shan" to present an ambiguous bent to his answer?

I didn't even see it, lol. I literally saw "Obi-Wan".

Who cares. Obi-Wan wins.

*Shrug*

I go back and forth depending on how I view the Satele = Marr > Act II Nox quotes.

Kenobi wins

@ILS: Apologies for the untimely response. RL and all that jazz, you know?



You do know Hex droids sport feats of deflecting heavy artillery blast fire too, right? Even lightsabers had a difficult time penetrating it's exoskeleton, It was was no selling Sith lightning, and Force enraged TK crush from an enraged Ax. Obi-Wan accomplished his with concentration and over time. Satele crushed several droids with a simple gesture --- within the context of both showings, crushing hex droids seems a bit more impressive.

Moving on.



That depends on several factors, such as, but not limited to: The length of the fall, the speed of which it fell, and it's mass.

It could be superior, it could not be.




Isn't this a canon showing? How does this even apply to a Legend Kenobi? Not that we could actually quantify how much Kenobi was pulling. Regardless, I'd think crushing several droids than even lightsabers had pause to penetrate with a simple gestureis a bit more impressive, and surely mo combat applicable.

Droid crushing aside, Satele basically using a Hadouken on Malgus that penetrated his Force defenses and collapsed gigantic cliff as a side effect., decades before becoming Grand Master, strikes as more impressive, too. Even if we want to run with assumption that the tutaminis amped her --- he Shan being vastly pre-prime circumvents that argument by more than a bit.



This showing is actually pretty damn impressive. Using Earth based trees as a scale, this could, quite frankly, be a 100 + ton showing - easily. More impressive than crushing hex droids if taken at face value, surely. The ease at which Satele performed the showing however, means it is nowhere near her upper limit, and that demolishing semi-lightsaber resistant creatures is a cake walk for her.




Satele can also benefit from some nice scaling herself, so this is hardly going to be Obi-Wan's for sure path to victory.

Shan makes him cry uncle.

Shan still wins.

They bang, pop through a time portal, and Rey is born. Mystery solved.

additional showings for kenobi:
-stalemating an unhindered post tcw anakin(obsession)
-Deflecting force blasts from mustafar anakin when not fully focused(rots novelization)
-telekentically shoving maul and oppress simultaneously(shadow conspiracy)
-cracking pre prime ventress's ribs via a force blast

And for the ship feat, its worth noting he did it 'without breaking a sweat" and he simultaneously was holding the ship together+cloaking it with a "cacoon of light"

on the topic of this battle kenobi should take this due to
a. being more powerful
b. being far more durable allowing him to tank her blasts

Satele Shan solidly

Details here: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/darthant66/blog/satele-shan-respect-thread/103104/

Obi-Wan, narrowly (based on his vs Maul, Hett, and Vader showings).

And how easily he tore through those lightsaber-resistant droids onboard the Invisible Hand.

Obi-Wan might be capable of impressive showings but he is not consistent in this area. His expertise is in dueling.

Satele Shan is capable of impressive showings on a consistent basis and will overwhelm Obi-Wan in this area.

Originally posted by Geistalt
And how easily he tore through those lightsaber-resistant droids onboard the Invisible Hand.
They were not lightsaber-resistant.

And he tore through them, using a lightsaber.

Bending Grievous' forearm like a "cheap spoon", deflecting blaster bolts omnidirectionally from an army of battle droids, contending with the telekinetic strength of Anakin Skywalker? Kenobi yeah.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Bending Grievous' forearm like a "cheap spoon", deflecting blaster bolts omnidirectionally from an army of battle droids, contending with the telekinetic strength of Anakin Skywalker? Kenobi yeah.

He also appears to blow off Hett's arm in the comic rendering of their fight with TK.

The afterglow of the lightsaber seems to indicate he TKed Hett then severed his hand via lightsaber, mmm.

I'd say that glow is the Force, while his lightsaber is occupied blocking Hett's blade.

EDIT: Perhaps tho, his arm looks like it's flaming in the second panel.

It was confirmed by the artist he cut it off with his lightsaber.

Fair.

It was definitely a severing, lmfao.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3D5tkAUNFa4

Originally posted by Geistalt
And how easily he tore through those lightsaber-resistant droids onboard the Invisible Hand.

Wat?

Probably referring to Magnaguards, but that was dueling. And it wasn't easy.

Oh, thought I missed something for a minute.

Dunno why peeps are specifically listing dueling, and physical showings in a Force only battle, though.

kenobi gets ragdolled, dude got choked out by ventress, overrated

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
They were not lightsaber-resistant.

And he tore through them, using a lightsaber.
i agree, shan is revan's granny, revan was the heart of the force, shan obviously stomps kenobi, all kenobi can do his use a lightsaber

Nice first posts on KMC, I hope they will be your last

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
kenobi gets ragdolled, dude got choked out by ventress, overrated
Ah.
Thanks for proving Ventress > Shan
Kenobi still pwns.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
kenobi gets ragdolled, dude got choked out by ventress, overrated

Every dark sider worth their salt has chocked out Obi-Wan, honestly.

TCW just didn't do Kenobi much justice.

Without circumstances only Dooku, and even then Kenobi was able to counter it with time.

Yeah, not even going to bother going over the Maul showing(s) with you again, but he has made Kenobi his ***** multiple times.

1. Pre-prime
2. Nah

All I see are excuses.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
All I see are excuses.

They are.

All I see is a f-ucktard who can't comprehend that excuses can be legit

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, not even going to bother going over the Maul showing(s) with you again, but he has made Kenobi his ***** multiple times.
Kenobi cut him in half, maul survived being cut in half, shan didn't. obviouslly tpm kenobi>maul>shan
there fore tpm kenobi>>shan

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Without circumstances only Dooku, and even then Kenobi was able to counter it with time.
EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONTEXT=EXCUSES I SAY!!!!
Kenobi matched anakin who killed sidious
Therefore Maul>kenobi=Anakin>sidious