Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Nihilus and DE Luke

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Kurk
Prime Vader and Nihilus
Luke as of Dark Empire
Anakin as of RotS (Jedi)

Tondemonai
Team 2. Nihilus drains either, and Luke beats/stalemates the other, then Nihilus drains them, too

Ursumeles
Luke >/= Anakin
Nihilus >/= Vader.

Team two, but it's close af.

UCanShootMyNova
Nihilus.

Azronger
Either of team 2 solo.

Deronn_solo
How is anyone soloing?

AncientPower
I can see Nihilus soloing, in a starved state he 'effortlessly' statis'd The Exile and Visas. Even accounting for the power gap between Vader and the Exile, that doesn't by any means fill in the gap of a fully powered Nihilus going all-out with telekinesis.

I'd say the same about Valkorion or Sidious though, tbh.

NewGuy01
Team 1 rolls; more skilled and powerful across the board, and happen to possess anti-drain techs to boot.

AncientPower
Anti-drain against the Dark Reaper, which only stopped Anakin from dying if he maintained a far enough distance, is nothing like defending against the far more powerful and potent drain of Darth Nihilus. Dark Reaper isn't even continent tier, nevermind planetary.

NewGuy01
Once again, just like with Vitiate, the circumstances surrounding Nihilus' feeding upon planetary populations is unclear. Neither have shown anything to suggest that they can bring that kind of power to bear in a combat situation, and in Nihilus' case it's implied that he's neither more powerful nor more competent with drain than any of the ancient DLOTS, let alone Kun.

Also, the range of their attacks aside, what evidence is there to support the potency of Nihilus' drain being greater than that of the Dark Reaper's?

SunRazer
Seeing as the Dark Reaper is an Ancient Sith construct, you'd think that it'd be designed to drain in the same way that the Ancient Sith did.

AncientPower
He stomped Traya with it before he went to attack Katarr and wiped out the Jedi Conclave. The ancient Sith didn't use it because of the side effects, furthermore even Vitiate's Sith Empire were desperately trying to get their hands on his holocron and it is strongly implied that the Smuggler saved countless lives by not letting the Sith get ahold of it.

The fact that Nihilus was draining worlds dry whilst simultaneously slaughtering an entire Conclave of the most powerful Masters. Masters of an order that had just dealt with the Dark Reaper fifty years prior. Making it blatantly clear that Nihilus is of an entirely different magnitude.

Furthermore, you're missing the point that Anakin's technique only compensates for so much. In the game itself, if you stray too close you still die to its drain anyway.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by AncientPower
He stomped Traya with it

She's vastly weaker than these two, and she admitted that it was because she had no means of defending herself against it. Not to mention, she survived regardless of that fact.



So desperately that it was only even mentioned in a minor story arc in the Smuggler quest line?



Simultaneously? To my knowledge, Nihilus was in orbit; the masters didn't even know what hit them.



And you're missing the point that there's no proof that Nihilus' case is the same as the Dark Reaper's.

carthage
Give Luke a better partner

AncientPower
Vastly weaker? By what margin? She's solidly Dooku tier if not higher. Surviving isn't the point, incapacitation is.

Ah yes, because apparently writer devotion is a measure of severity.

Nihilus appeared in orbit and shortly after the attack began, which didn't instantly kill everyone, it spread across the planet like a cloud. Certainly leaving the Jedi room to try and counter. Given fifty years ago they stopped the Dark Reaper, well you can see where I'm going with this.

You haven't provided any evidence that the Dark Reaper is anywhere near as potent as Nihilus, in either scope or effect. Nihilus ravaged the surface of worlds and killed an entire gathering of the Order's strongest Jedi Masters as a side effect. The Dark Reaper killed a few thousand troops on Raxus Prime and heavily damaged forests.

NTJack0
Team 1, Luke isn't taking them both by himself after Nihilus gets killed off.

QuakeBlood
Team 2.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by AncientPower
Dark Reaper isn't even continent tier, nevermind planetary.

Eh? Not getting in the match, but the Dark Reaper is plenty powerful. Given it could hit planets and moons. It took out the Alaris moon. It was also used on Mon Calamari, Bakura and Agamar.

It drained an entire moon's worth of forests, destroying them. That should be well above continent level at the least small moon level since Alaris was a small moon.

hutchy1345
Did DE Luke not defeat DE sidious and with only a slight amp from leia?

Shouldn't that soundly put him well above team 1 by himself? Or even if not, on a level where the addition of nihilus makes this an easy victory?

UCanShootMyNova
The extent of the amp he received from Leia is unknown.

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