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Who takes it?

I will just go ahead and Vote for My Damned Fav Etttie and say he WINS!

Cap Bee-itch Chick gets toasted.

Unless I'm missing something, he destroys her.

Carol is faster as far as I know, he should be stronger. Not really sure, would have to see feats for Etrigan and possibly Carol.

Etrigan punches her to the moon.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Etrigan punches her to the moon.
Assuming he let loose against her like that, she'd be nothing more than a broken and bloody corpse littering the Moon's surface.

Carol has punched characters to near the moon before...

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Carol has punched characters to near the moon before...
That's nice, but Etrigan did it to DC's elite Herald.

Originally posted by zopzop
That's nice, but Etrigan did it to DC's elite Herald.
as far as I'm concerned it was a lucky hit, when Supes got back the fight was his, for the same reason it would be Carol's speed.

Just how strong do you have to be to punch a 220 pound out of orbit? Uni-Powered Spider-Man punched a 900 pound Hulk ino orbit.

Originally posted by golem370
Just how strong do you have to be to punch a 220 pound out of orbit? Uni-Powered Spider-Man punched a 900 pound Hulk ino orbit.

Don't forget to factor in the distance and time/speed. Geosynchronous orbit, if we're using that as an example, is about 1/10th the distance of the moon.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
as far as I'm concerned it was a lucky hit, when Supes got back the fight was his, for the same reason it would be Carol's speed.
Are you seriously comparing Superman's speed to Captain Marvel's? He toyed with her like a feeb in the Crossover (and it was canon to both companies). Meanwhile he was in an actual fight with Etrigan.
Originally posted by golem370
Just how strong do you have to be to punch a 220 pound out of orbit? Uni-Powered Spider-Man punched a 900 pound Hulk ino orbit.
He didn't punch him into orbit. He punched him to the Moon. And Superman wasn't just standing there, he was flying right toward Etrigan. Etrigan was fighting against Superman's momentum AND Earth's gravity and still managed to send him all the way to the Moon.
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Originally posted by Cogito
Don't forget to factor in the distance and time/speed. Geosynchronous orbit, if we're using that as an example, is about 1/10th the distance of the moon.

Originally posted by golem370
Just how strong do you have to be to punch a 220 pound out of orbit? Uni-Powered Spider-Man punched a 900 pound Hulk ino orbit.

What zopzop said. 900lb Hulk has ZERO flight capability; a 220lb Superman has enough flight thrust to race Flashes, push really heavy things etc....

Moreover, orbit is <<<<<<<<<the Moon, lol.

Originally posted by zopzop
Are you seriously comparing Superman's speed to Captain Marvel's? He toyed with her like a feeb in the Crossover (and it was canon to both companies). Meanwhile he was in an actual fight with Etrigan.

He didn't punch him into orbit. He punched him to the Moon. And Superman wasn't just standing there, he was flying right toward Etrigan. Etrigan was fighting against Superman's momentum AND Earth's gravity and still managed to send him all the way to the Moon.
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Pretty sure the crossover isn't canon to DC.

The same thing Carol punched Rogue who was trying to blitz her. I can tell you by the fact Superman was talking to Etrigan he wasnt really trying much in regards to speed. Or the fact he later repetitively kept out speeding Etrigan when he got back.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What zopzop said. 900lb Hulk has ZERO flight capability; a 220lb Superman has enough flight thrust to race Flashes, push really heavy things etc....

Moreover, orbit is <<<<<<<<<the Moon, lol.

Etrigan has nothing suggesting he can hit her, also an aware Superman isn't going to be hit to the moon. He seemed surprised Etrigan hit him like that which isn't rare for Superman to be hit by vastly slower characters.

Originally posted by zopzop
Are you seriously comparing Superman's speed to Captain Marvel's? He toyed with her like a feeb in the Crossover (and it was canon to both companies). Meanwhile he was in an actual fight with Etrigan.

He didn't punch him into orbit. He punched him to the Moon. And Superman wasn't just standing there, he was flying right toward Etrigan. Etrigan was fighting against Superman's momentum AND Earth's gravity and still managed to send him all the way to the Moon.
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Best line from that comic was Etrigan's "Magic is all I need to make you bleed".

And remeber Ettie has more then Just Punch. He has all sorts of Magic Attacks. That and isn't afraid to go all tooth and claw on someone.

Carol wins. Her fight against Ironman was highly impressive. Her final punch had enough force from the shockwaves to knock back Blue Marvel, Sas, Monica, Nova, Ms. America, and more...

Here is the scene...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/31529584/Civil_War_II_2016_008-016.jpg.html

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Pretty sure the crossover isn't canon to DC.

The same thing Carol punched Rogue who was trying to blitz her. I can tell you by the fact Superman was talking to Etrigan he wasnt really trying much in regards to speed. Or the fact he later repetitively kept out speeding Etrigan when he got back.
I'm pretty sure it's canon to both companies. Marvel even had references to the Crossover in their Handbook entries.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Best line from that comic was Etrigan's "Magic is all I need to make you bleed".

And remeber Ettie has more then Just Punch. He has all sorts of Magic Attacks. That and isn't afraid to go all tooth and claw on someone.
Yup. She literally has NO chance of winning the majority here.

Originally posted by carver9
Carol wins. Her fight against Ironman was highly impressive. Her final punch had enough force from the shockwaves to knock back Blue Marvel, Sas, Monica, Nova, Ms. America, and more...

Here is the scene...

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Looked more like a open hand close blast to me moreso than a punch. Plus those ppl were in the air.. Its easier to get knocked off your axis while flying.. Just saying.

I do wonder how much of a diff tune Carver will sing when Carol is made the most powerfull Marvel Character in the MCU and thus knocks Hulk off the top spot...

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I do wonder how much of a diff tune Carver will sing when Carol is made the most powerfull Marvel Character in the MCU and thus knocks Hulk off the top spot...



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This was recently. I wish her the best of luck trying.

Also, Hulk creates seismic activity in the scan above.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Looked more like a open hand close blast to me moreso than a punch. Plus those ppl were in the air.. Its easier to get knocked off your axis while flying.. Just saying.

By the same logic, Etrigan then directly knocked Superman out of his axis?

Regardless Blue Marvel was flying towards Carol to stop her same with the rest of them.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
By the same logic, Etrigan then directly knocked Superman out of his axis?

Regardless Blue Marvel was flying towards Carol to stop her same with the rest of them.
Do you understand the difference between blasting someone back a few hundred feet (if that) with a shockwave and KNOCKING SOMEONE TO THE PHUCKING MOON? You realize one is infinitely more impressive than the other right?

Originally posted by carver9
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This was recently. I wish her the best of luck trying.
Movies Trump Comics.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, Hulk creates seismic activity in the scan above.

Imagine the scenario if the Hulk ever eats at Taco Bell...

Originally posted by zopzop
Do you understand the difference between blasting someone back a few hundred feet (if that) with a shockwave and KNOCKING SOMEONE TO THE PHUCKING MOON? You realize one is infinitely more impressive than the other right?

Welcome to the world of the Self Delusional FanBoy Fanaticism know as the Comic Book World.

And Carver is da King!

Ok.

Etrigan has the durability to take her best shots. The same can not be said about her. Demon 7/10

Originally posted by zopzop
Do you understand the difference between blasting someone back a few hundred feet (if that) with a shockwave and KNOCKING SOMEONE TO THE PHUCKING MOON? You realize one is infinitely more impressive than the other right?

Carol has pretty much done the same thing to Rogue...

Etrigan isn't fast enough for one to even hit her, which is being vastly ignored here.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Etrigan has the durability to take her best shots. The same can not be said about her. Demon 7/10
If she can go Binary she could hurt The Demon pretty bad.

In regards to durability she has feats where she's stayed conscious after attacks from characters like Antimatter and Phoenix Force Magik.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Carol has pretty much done the same thing to Rogue...

Etrigan isn't fast enough for one to even hit her, which is being vastly ignored here.
She was in Binary form and Rogue never made it to the moon. Also Superman > Rogue.

She was close though. We see the moon almost right next to her.

Originally posted by carver9
She was close though. We see the moon almost right next to her.
We don't know HOW close she was, all we know is that she was knocked up possibly into orbit (though I could have sworn Rogue couldn't breathe underwater or in space).

Etrigan punched a more powerful opponent and sent him crashing into the surface of the moon.

Etrigan on average.

Originally posted by zopzop
We don't know HOW close she was, all we know is that she was knocked up possibly into orbit (though I could have sworn Rogue couldn't breathe underwater or in space).

Etrigan punched a more powerful opponent and sent him crashing into the surface of the moon.

The moon is right by her. Here is the scene...

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Also, Rogue has Ms. Marvel powers. Yes, she can survive in space.

Originally posted by zopzop
We don't know HOW close she was, all we know is that she was knocked up possibly into orbit (though I could have sworn Rogue couldn't breathe underwater or in space).

Etrigan punched a more powerful opponent and sent him crashing into the surface of the moon.

Then failed to compensate for speed when Supes got back.

If you want to talk about powerful. Binary flew into The Collective putting a hole through his body.

This is a guy that was stalemating Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
The moon is right by her. Here is the scene...

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I know of that scan. I have the comic. So tell me, how close to the Moon was Rogue?

Etrigan decked a far more powerful opponent than Rogue so hard, he sent him crashing into the surface of the Moon.

Etrigan's punching feat is greater.

Etrigan for the majority

Originally posted by zopzop
I know of that scan. I have the comic. So tell me, how close to the Moon was Rogue?

Etrigan decked a far more powerful opponent than Rogue so hard, he sent him crashing into the surface of the Moon.

Etrigan's punching feat is greater.
(Binary)
Greater than flying through a guy who was taking hits from Sentry?

Originally posted by carver9
The moon is right by her. Here is the scene...

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Meh. The Moon looks that Big all the time in comics from the normal view.

Not impressive.

I don't know anywhere near enough about Etrigan or Carol to chime in on the specifics of how these two match up, but some of the comments seem to seriously be underselling Carol. She seems to be functioning on a WAY higher level nowadays than she was back when Rogue absorbed her powers. She may not be the top female in Marvel, but even back in the day her durability was one or two steps up from her power output so I really don't see anyone other than a serious heavy hitter one shotting her or anything like that. I mean she has slugged it out with guys like Wonderman on more than 1 occasion. And that's not even counting the potential of her absorbing his blast to power herself up even further(assuming his blast fall into the category of something she can absorb of course, not sure what her limits are on that kind of thing).

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know anywhere near enough about Etrigan or Carol to chime in on the specifics of how these two match up, but some of the comments seem to seriously be underselling Carol. She seems to be functioning on a WAY higher level nowadays than she was back when Rogue absorbed her powers. She may not be the top female in Marvel, but even back in the day her durability was one or two steps up from her power output so I really don't see anyone other than a serious heavy hitter one shotting her or anything like that. I mean she has slugged it out with guys like Wonderman on more than 1 occasion. And that's not even counting the potential of her absorbing his blast to power herself up even further(assuming his blast fall into the category of something she can absorb of course, not sure what her limits are on that kind of thing).

She's had some upgrades since the Rogue days.

The Ms Marvel v2 series made that pretty apparent to.

Rogue had her powers for awhile and as Binary. Carol completely dismissed Rogue. She ends up losing her Binary powers and is still shown above by the fact her Warbird persona comes back (Different Universe Carol) and beats up Rogue. Carol as Ms Marvel defeats Warbird without any injuries and also Knocks her out leaving her with a burned face.

As Binary she should honestly be above Etrigan. He's only being hyped up because one feat where he sent a 220lb man to the moon with a haymaker. Carol tossed a meteor through space, and destroyed a meteor bigger than most states I'm aware of.

She also broke out of be bonded to the material Caps shield is made of.

Alot of her feats go unnoticed for some reason, it might be because she's not as popular as most powerhouses or people who like her don't really visit the battleforums.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I do wonder how much of a diff tune Carver will sing when Carol is made the most powerfull Marvel Character in the MCU and thus knocks Hulk off the top spot...

Already done.

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Has she ever absorbed Hell Fire/magic?

Quick question.
Wouldn't etrigan doing that to supes be under the guise of using magic on him?

Originally posted by Genii96
Quick question.
Wouldn't etrigan doing that to supes be under the guise of using magic on him?

No, it was a simple punch from a demon with near-Superman level strength, not a fancy magic punch. It's not like Etrigan's fist is made of magic or anything like that

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
She's had some upgrades since the Rogue days.

The Ms Marvel v2 series made that pretty apparent to.

Rogue had her powers for awhile and as Binary. Carol completely dismissed Rogue. She ends up losing her Binary powers and is still shown above by the fact her Warbird persona comes back (Different Universe Carol) and beats up Rogue. Carol as Ms Marvel defeats Warbird without any injuries and also Knocks her out leaving her with a burned face.

As Binary she should honestly be above Etrigan. He's only being hyped up because one feat where he sent a 220lb man to the moon with a haymaker. Carol tossed a meteor through space, and destroyed a meteor bigger than most states I'm aware of.

She also broke out of be bonded to the material Caps shield is made of.
Etrigan has overpowered Wonder Woman casually, fought Lobo to a double KO twice, has overpowered Grundy and ripped out his heart and has actually beaten characters worth a damn.

He has also ripped out of Gamnanae who had absorbed all the magic from Earth and has actually forcibly bonded Spectre to a host and has actually taken attacks from Spectre himself.

Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.
Exactly. Her only hope is to go Full Binary from the get-go and even then she's not guaranteed a win. He has CL100 physical stats (which she doesn't have unless she's in Binary form) plus his magic which she has no answer for.

Originally posted by Cogito
No, it was a simple punch from a demon with near-Superman level strength, not a fancy magic punch. It's not like Etrigan's fist is made of magic or anything like that

Oh ok. I thought it was like an amped hit or something

Originally posted by abhilegend
Etrigan has overpowered Wonder Woman casually, fought Lobo to a double KO twice, has overpowered Grundy and ripped out his heart and has actually beaten characters worth a damn.

He has also ripped out of Gamnanae who had absorbed all the magic from Earth and has actually forcibly bonded Spectre to a host and has actually taken attacks from Spectre himself.

Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.

What's Diana's best strength feat? Regardless I always assumed strength doesn't mean much in a fight unless you get hold of your opponent.

I don't remember Gamnanae absorbing all the magic from Earth. I'm confident Zatanna and Manitou Raven were fighting him. I also don't remember Etrigan hurting her outside the use of Hellfire.

She can absorb magic, and Etrigan isn't fast enough I think, to do so.
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Originally posted by Zack M
Has she ever absorbed Hell Fire/magic?
She's absorbed magic from someone with the eye of watoomb.
http://imgur.com/a/z1RDZ

Heat energy is her best source of absorption. She's struggled with magic, but thats against people whove bothered Strange

Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly. Her only hope is to go Full Binary from the get-go and even then she's not guaranteed a win. He has CL100 physical stats (which she doesn't have unless she's in Binary form) plus his magic which she has no answer for.

I'd argue these are CL 100 feats.


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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What's Diana's best strength feat? Regardless I always assumed strength doesn't mean much in a fight unless you get hold of your opponent.

I don't remember Gamnanae absorbing all the magic from Earth. I'm confident Zatanna and Manitou Raven were fighting him. I also don't remember Etrigan hurting her outside the use of Hellfire.

She can absorb magic, and Etrigan isn't fast enough I think, to do so.
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You need to read all those comics again I think.

And you didnt comment on Lobo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You need to read all those comics again I think.

And you didnt comment on Lobo.
I'll look back at them, been wanting to reread JLA anyways.

I always assume Lobo is a Parody character like Wade or Squirrel Girl, who are at wherever they need to be in story. I haven't read much Lobo in all honesty so I don't have much of an opinion on the character.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'll look back at them, been wanting to reread JLA anyways.

I always assume Lobo is a Parody character like Wade or Squirrel Girl, who are at wherever they need to be in story. I haven't read much Lobo in all honesty so I don't have much of an opinion on the character.

Read JLA 75. It has Etrigan ripping out of Gemnanae.

Eh, Lobo is always a superman level character in strength. His feats are consistently at that level and Etrigan has fought him at least six times.

The demon stomps

Also Carol absorbs heat Energy.

Don't remember DCnU Etrigan doing anything to impressive.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Also Carol absorbs heat Energy.

Don't remember DCnU Etrigan doing anything to impressive.

He uses BFR a lot. Sends people to Hell.