Is Wonder Woman's speed an overhyped myth??

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EcstaticGrace
I ask anyone who reads this topic, to put personal preference aside and actually consider the characters history and feats.

Most of her speed feats are in part due to the fact the character has to block things that would harm her.

These things typically tend to be bullets which characters as fast as Superman don't need to avoid.

This topic honestly came to thought because of a vs thread, where Noone was capable of showing superior speed on a personal note. All notable speed feats were scaling off characters. But how reliable is that? Do we assume the characters operating at maximum just for the benefit of Wonder Woman?

If anyone has anything concrete, please feel free to share.. personally I don't think it's accurate to suggest keeping up with Zoom suggest she's as fast..

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/pre-flashpoint-wonder-woman-v-captain-marvel-carol-1844751/#113

Magnon
Wonder Woman is a real deal. She doesn't have any obvious weaknesses, has high levels of strength/speed/durability/skill, and possesses some of the most unfair trump cards in the comics (lasso, bracers, ...). She has the potential to defeat any herald.

Edit. Misread the title a bit. But no, her speed isn't overhyped either. She can often keep up with Superman, almost at least.

DarkSaint85
She can change clothes real fast:

http://i.imgur.com/YcptStT.jpg

Eat real fast:
http://i.imgur.com/SFEG8Ht.jpg

Then there's the Shattered God feat:
http://imgur.com/a/5dOoi

EcstaticGrace
What's her best sped feat though? should of been my question.

And how concrete are the feats where she's scaling off other characters?

The only time I ever seen her suggested as a peer to Superman in speed, was in the same run where the writer suggested Superman wasn't lightspeed.

EcstaticGrace
Faster than Superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2316318-1301918_wonder_woman_faster2.jpg

But Superman is slower than usual...?
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/138925/2692806-justice_league_of_america_014_28.jpg

DarkSaint85
Pfft. Batman dodged Dr Light easily.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Strategy-Tactics/Solo%20Battles/supermanbatman43-fortressbattle4.jpg

So yeah, I wouldn't place too much emphasis on that, lol.

ghostman
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Faster than Superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2316318-1301918_wonder_woman_faster2.jpg

But Superman is slower than usual...?
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/138925/2692806-justice_league_of_america_014_28.jpg

stop using that crap scan to prove wonder woman is faster. in for tomorrow wonder woman tried blitzing superman with the intent to kill and he easily handled her. but when he blitzed her she got the shit smacked outta her. feats> statements made by biased writers

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by ghostman
stop using that crap scan to prove wonder woman is faster. in for tomorrow wonder woman tried blitzing superman with the intent to kill and he easily handled her. but when he blitzed her she got the shit smacked outta her. feats> statements made by biased writers

I thinks it's a writer thing. At the end of the day, I think personal Feats >> scaling off other characters. But I honestly just wanted to get other opinions on the matter.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pfft. Batman dodged Dr Light easily.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Strategy-Tactics/Solo%20Battles/supermanbatman43-fortressbattle4.jpg

So yeah, I wouldn't place too much emphasis on that, lol.

It just comes off as Light being a bad shot and not being able to see where Batman is.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
It just comes off as Light being a bad shot and not being able to see where Batman is.

But he can tag something flying as fast as Superman (remember, they even remark on it, how Superman managed to get rid of Parasite without him activating his powers), yet can't hit Batman with BOTH beams? Bit contradictory there, hence, I wouldn't place too much on it.

Abhi will come in and say how Superman was at 50% power there, as well, as Vixen had been siphoning his powers.

EcstaticGrace
Lol

carver9
Originally posted by ghostman
stop using that crap scan to prove wonder woman is faster. in for tomorrow wonder woman tried blitzing superman with the intent to kill and he easily handled her. but when he blitzed her she got the shit smacked outta her. feats> statements made by biased writers

Scans.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What's her best sped feat though? should of been my question.

And how concrete are the feats where she's scaling off other characters?

The only time I ever seen her suggested as a peer to Superman in speed, was in the same run where the writer suggested Superman wasn't lightspeed.

Her best is the Shattered God feat, IMO.

As to how concrete? Meh. Flash gets tagged by Deathstroke. By his Rogues - doesn't mean they are all as fast as he is.

ghostman
Originally posted by carver9
Scans.

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4e7540e2083e67a676486da12b8e20b?convert_to_webp=true

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Her best is the Shattered God feat, IMO.

As to how concrete? Meh. Flash gets tagged by Deathstroke. By his Rogues - doesn't mean they are all as fast as he is.
What's the Shattered God feat? and it's context? It sounds intriguing.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What's the Shattered God feat? and it's context? It sounds intriguing.

http://imgur.com/a/5dOoi

Context: it was a dark god from ages ago, shattered into a trillion trillion pieces (or whatever), then spread all over the galaxy - over Oa, edge of the universe etc).

All those pieces gets pulled together, back to Earth. Diana stops them.

abhilegend
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Faster than Superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2316318-1301918_wonder_woman_faster2.jpg

But Superman is slower than usual...?
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/138925/2692806-justice_league_of_america_014_28.jpg
Superman was literally at half power there as Vixen had half of his powers.

Its one of the most baffling scenes to be routinely posted everywhere.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
http://imgur.com/a/5dOoi

Context: it was a dark god from ages ago, shattered into a trillion trillion pieces (or whatever), then spread all over the galaxy - over Oa, edge of the universe etc).

All those pieces gets pulled together, back to Earth. Diana stops them.

Really hard to say how fast she's going though in terms of mach.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dr. Light can tag something flying as fast as Superman (remember, they even remark on it, how Superman managed to get rid of Parasite without him activating his powers) ...



Superman is noisy, clumsy, and obvious. Notice that the villains hear his approach before he appears on panel.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
yet can't hit Batman with BOTH beams?


Batman is quieter, scarier, less predictable, and has the good sense to move AWAY from direct attacks.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Superman is noisy, clumsy, and obvious. Notice that the villains hear his approach before he appears on panel.




Batman is quieter, scarier, less predictable, and has the good sense to move AWAY from direct attacks.

So I can react to a noisy fighter jet barreling straight at me in a predictable path, but not to a mosquito?

Tell that to the many mosquitoes who whisper of me in hushed terms.

EcstaticGrace
I think the Speedforce feat comes off the most impressive.

h1a8
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pfft. Batman dodged Dr Light easily.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Strategy-Tactics/Solo%20Battles/supermanbatman43-fortressbattle4.jpg

So yeah, I wouldn't place too much emphasis on that, lol. hand blasts are easier to dodge since they require telegraphing. Eye or chest blasts are totally different though.

h1a8
The shattered God feat is the best. The speed force one is up there too.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by h1a8
hand blasts are easier to dodge since they require telegraphing. Eye or chest blasts are totally different though.

Read the thread - EcstaticGrace was referring to the time Dr Light, USING HIS HAND, hit Superman.

abhilegend
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I think the Speedforce feat comes off the most impressive.
She traveled through a gateway which amps the speed of anything hundredfold.



http://i.imgur.com/20r2g39t.jpg http://i.imgur.com/exIQ1Sut.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rGRYgMCt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YIHTvnrt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TZ4odZyt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bQ5FGmet.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TRJ4NUzt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PgIMbHWt.jpg

Full scene which is never shown BTW.

cdtm
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Faster than Superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2316318-1301918_wonder_woman_faster2.jpg

But Superman is slower than usual...?
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/138925/2692806-justice_league_of_america_014_28.jpg

That was made by a writer trolling a comic book debate he took part in.

Seriously.

DarkSaint85
thumb up

Was about to post that. People like to claim she entered the Speed Force under her own power. When in reality, when she races Wally, he out speeds her.

Whilst he's running backwards.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by abhilegend
She traveled through a gateway which amps the speed of anything hundredfold.



http://i.imgur.com/20r2g39t.jpg http://i.imgur.com/exIQ1Sut.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rGRYgMCt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YIHTvnrt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TZ4odZyt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bQ5FGmet.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TRJ4NUzt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PgIMbHWt.jpg

Full scene which is never shown BTW.

Lol, damn I was honestly about to concede with the idea of her being lightspeed.... appreciate this..

Flyattractor
I always liked that one comic scene were Wondie and Flash are running along and Diana is telling him that she has the speed of Hermes and the Flash while running along side her backwards just gives her a "thats nice" smile.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I always liked that one comic scene were Wondie and Flash are running along and Diana is telling him that she has the speed of Hermes and the Flash while running along side her backwards just gives her a "thats nice" smile.

Weren't the deities Post-Crisis halved in power? It was split between the Greek and Roman incarnations of each other meaning half Hermes power was cut in creation of Mercury?

I'm not sure, just wondering.

Flyattractor
With the way that DC treats its continuity ....WHOO DA FUHH KNOWS!?

Although I am sure there are plenty here who will claim to.

EcstaticGrace
Appreciate all the info.

Rao Kal El
Yes is an overhyped myth. She is fast just not speedster fast.

Carver thinks she is fast because she is faster than the Hulk big grin

EcstaticGrace
Lol

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
thumb up

Was about to post that. People like to claim she entered the Speed Force under her own power. When in reality, when she races Wally, he out speeds her.

Whilst he's running backwards.

Did Wonder Woman enter rhat door way? Also, even though Wally outpaced her, she was still moving at Super speed.

"Id"
Wonder Woman's speed is comparable to Super Girls. It's legit, and best to be kept that way. With or without Carvers claims, I am not sure if this topic is warrent, since it could lure some shit posting.

Surtur
I can only speak to post crisis WW and yep her super speed is legit and sure as hell no myth. She's near lightspeed. Not as fast as Superman, but still can move and react at significant fractions of light.

carver9
Originally posted by Surtur
I can only speak to post crisis WW and yep her super speed is legit and sure as hell no myth. She's near lightspeed. Not as fast as Superman, but still can move and react at significant fractions of light.

New Wonder Woman is faster, stronger, more powerful and more durable than Pre Wonder Woman.

Surtur
Originally posted by carver9
New Wonder Woman is faster, stronger, more powerful and more durable than Pre Wonder Woman.

Cool, so she should be at least lightspeed then.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Did Wonder Woman enter rhat door way? Also, even though Wally outpaced her, she was still moving at Super speed.

Have you read the story?

Yes. Just not as fast as Flash.

Not trolling you. Honestly not. But like the Circe showing, which you tried to pass off as WW, you are very vehement in your defense, when you haven't actually read the story.

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