Interesting, People on the Internet trust the far right more than the media.

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Stop the hate
I see the words liberal media bandied around far too often. As if the far right is more trustworthy...

Let's see what the far right have brought us...

Fascism
The Klan
The Holocaust

What have the liberal media brought you?

Watergate?

This is by no means a conclusive list but, why should the liberal media be seen as worse than the far right who brought you fascism?

NewGuy01
because they're annoying

Stop the hate
Originally posted by NewGuy01
because they're annoying

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Only to the people who brought you fascism.

NewGuy01
pretty sure the people who brought fascism lived on the other side of the world mmm

Stop the hate
Originally posted by NewGuy01
pretty sure the people who brought fascism live on the other side of the world mmm

Umm, it's a far right political ideology many countries have adopted with disastrous results. It usually happens when the state and business are intertwined... hang on.

According to the Washington post, Donald Trump is a fascist... Who'd have thunk it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-actually-a-fascist/2016/12/09/e193a2b6-bd77-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

Damn liberal media!

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I see the words liberal media bandied around far too often. As if the far right is more trustworthy...

Let's see what the far right have brought us...

Fascism
The Klan
The Holocaust

What have the liberal media brought you?

Watergate?

This is by no means a conclusive list but, why should the liberal media be seen as worse than the far right who brought you fascism?


Sorry Skippy. You got all that Backwards.

NewGuy01
I don't recall asking for a definition. You claimed that liberal media was only annoying to the people who "brought me fascism." I was pretty sure the rise of fascism was a largely 20th-century-Europe thing, though, so it was hard to imagine my uncle Steve had anything to do with it, that's all.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Flyattractor


Sorry Skippy. You got all that Backwards.

So fascism isn't far right kid?

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Stop the hate
So fascism isn't far right kid?

So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin

yeahhhhhh not quite, lol.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by NewGuy01
yeahhhhhh not quite.

Spot on the Button.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Right wing National Socialism has nothing to do with left wing Socialism. You are very dim.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Stop the hate
roll eyes (sarcastic)

National Socialism has nothing to do with left wing Socialism. You are very dim.

According to whom? Your Alt Left Commie University Prof?


Yeah. I expect them to teach the troof.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Flyattractor
According to whom? Your Alt Left Commie University Prof?


Yeah. I expect them to teach the troof.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

#triggered

No kid, history and facts. You know facts, the things you loons hate because they prove stuff.

Surtur
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin

It's just hilarious because some tactics liberals have used in the past reeked of fascism of a sort.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
It's just hilarious because some tactics liberals have used in the past reeked of fascism of a sort.

Not really but your cognitive dissonance says so.

Flyattractor
Oh very much so you little Mussolini you.

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
Not really but your cognitive dissonance says so.

I assume you're under the impression throwing around the phrase "cognitive dissonance" makes you seem smart.

It doesn't.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Surtur
I assume you're under the impression throwing around the phrase "cognitive dissonance" makes you seem smart.

It doesn't.

You could also point out that He himself started a thread that points out that people DON'T Trust HIM and his views and beliefs.


Poor Stupid Little Mussolini.

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I see the words liberal media bandied around far too often. As if the far right is more trustworthy...

Let's see what the far right have brought us...

Fascism
The Klan
The Holocaust

What have the liberal media brought you?

Watergate?

This is by no means a conclusive list but, why should the liberal media be seen as worse than the far right who brought you fascism? The stupidity of this is awesome

Fascism is an authoritarian issue, not a left right issue. Communism likewise could be implemented by a right-wing government.

The Klan was created by Democrats as a response to attacks on the idea of states rights. While it has pretty much morphed into the racist Boogeyman, they are actually classical liberals with strong authoritarian biases.

The Holocaust was HEAVILY based on sanctions from WW1 and the fact Germans around the world were victims of hate crimes. This reached its most pivitol when a Jewish writer wrote about how the world would be better off "castrating" all the Germans and the German people dying out. This was what formed the basis of the propaganda that the Nazi party used to take power.

If you don't know history, don't bring it up.

Also nothing you brought up was actually brought about by the media.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin

You're aware that when Hitler took over the party it began undergoing drastic changes immediately to the point that he rounded up all the leftist sympathizers in germany and sent them to camps?

The only group Hitler may have hated more then the Jews were the communists.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You're aware that when Hitler took over the party it began undergoing drastic changes immediately to the point that he rounded up all the leftist sympathizers in germany and sent them to camps?

The only group Hitler may have hated more then the Jews were the communists.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Thats cause EVERYBODY knows ya Can't Trust a Commie. Especially other Leftists.

Cause we aint never seen Leftists throw OTHER Leftists to the wolves before.

NOOOOOO Never!

Henry_Pym
Stalin killed more people than Hitler. Just saying

Flyattractor
And the Leftists Still LOVE HIM! The leftists Loved the Nazis too until it became to apparent on what was really going on. And that was only because they didn't want to turn their voting bases against them.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Thats cause EVERYBODY knows ya Can't Trust a Commie. Especially other Leftists.

Cause we aint never seen Leftists throw OTHER Leftists to the wolves before.

NOOOOOO Never!

... Are you... Are you actually suggesting Hitler was left leaning?

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
And the Leftists Still LOVE HIM! The leftists Loved the Nazis too until it became to apparent on what was really going on. And that was only because they didn't want to turn their voting bases against them.

Most moderates on the left do not love Stalin... You seem to have a strange view of the world fly.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
... Are you... Are you actually suggesting Hitler was left leaning?

Nope. But I am suggesting that He did use all the Leftist Looneys to build his SOCIALIST EMPIRE!!!!!!!

I will push that .....Hard!
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Most moderates on the left do not love Stalin... You seem to have a strange view of the world fly.

Hence all those College Kids runing around wearing the Che shirts.

UCanShootMyNova
His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

no "Empire" ever is. They just USE such things to BUILD the EMPIRE!

Cause once you are THE EMPEROR you don't have to put up with any ones BullShit anymore.

UCanShootMyNova
I'm saying the Nazi ideals that his empire was based off of were not leftist in nature.

carthage
Far right is the absence of government to varying degrees from libertarianism and Minarchism to stuff like Anarcho Capitalism. The idea that Fascism is far right is pretty ****ing retarded when people on that side of the political spectrum want abolition of the state, not a Corporatist one

Stop the hate
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

This is the problem most of the far right loons on the internet think Socialism is National Socialism, because they believe the internet. You clearly understand National Socialism was far right. Very far right...

Surtur
The allies essentially paved the way for Hitler and his nazi's to take over in the early 1930s.

Also most don't know that when it comes to the nazi's and eugenics..Hitler was inspired by the USA. The nazis studied American race laws and the only problem they found with them is that they weren't extreme enough for the nazis.

The point is we have a nasty habit of paving the way for people who later turn out to be enemies.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
The allies essentially paved the way for Hitler and his nazi's to take over in the early 1930s.

Also most don't know that when it comes to the nazi's and eugenics..Hitler was inspired by the USA. The nazis studied American race laws and the only problem they found with them is that they weren't extreme enough for the nazis.

And that's got nothing to do with if fascism is far right or not.

National Socialism=Far Right
Alt Right=Far Right

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
And that's got nothing to do with if fascism is far right or not.

National Socialism=Far Right
Alt Right=Far Right

Once again though, you don't just find fascist tactics on the right.

Let me ask you a serious question though: how would you personally define fascism?

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
Once again though, you don't just find fascist tactics on the right.

Let me ask you a serious question though: how would you personally define fascism?

Early fascism, people like the Fasci indeed described themselves as from the left. However, since National Socialism and WWII the term fascism has usually only been applied to the far right. Glad I could help.

Henry_Pym
Nice dodge

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
The stupidity of this is awesome

Fascism is an authoritarian issue, not a left right issue. Communism likewise could be implemented by a right-wing government.

The Klan was created by Democrats as a response to attacks on the idea of states rights. While it has pretty much morphed into the racist Boogeyman, they are actually classical liberals with strong authoritarian biases.

The Holocaust was HEAVILY based on sanctions from WW1 and the fact Germans around the world were victims of hate crimes. This reached its most pivitol when a Jewish writer wrote about how the world would be better off "castrating" all the Germans and the German people dying out. This was what formed the basis of the propaganda that the Nazi party used to take power.

If you don't know history, don't bring it up.

Also nothing you brought up was actually brought about by the media.

Poor Rhetoric, a poorly researched and selective history troll #trollharder

Back to topic

"Normally, they would be a little wary of someone who seems erratic. They like predictability in the same way they like conservatives," says Melvin Levitsky, a former head of the State Department's U.S.-Soviet Bilateral Relations who now teaches at the University of Michigan Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy. "Probably the fact that Trump has said these positive things about him, like he's a better leader than Obama, certainly affects him. But Putin is a very calculating guy."

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2016-11-09/how-vladimir-putin-won-the-us-election

Stigma
Okey, there is a great deal of misinformation and/or misrepresentation in this thread...

To make it clearer:



-- Adolf Hilter on his socialism

Taken from The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff.

The same, shortened quote can be found in other sources like Industry and Ideology: I. G. Farben in the Nazi Era by Peter Hayes; In Defense of Chaos: The Chaology of Politics, Economics and Human Action by L.K. Samuels and World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1 by Cyprian Blamires among others.


Also, this does not get any clearer than this admission:



-- Adolf Hitler on his Leftist ideology,

Taken from Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives by Allan Bullock.

Same quote can be found in Documents on Nazism: 1919-1945 by Jeremy Noakes, ‎Geoffrey Pridham and The Invention of Fascism by Lawrence Alan Rosenthal and other sources.


Also, the acronym "Nazism" stands for "National Socialism; German: Nationalsozialismus)" and Hitler was the leader of the The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party.



So yeah, Hitler was a Lefty, both in his political views and when he used a pen. (pun intended)


I hope this helped to clear up the issue. thumb up

Stop the hate

Stigma
Riiiiight, I mean Left. wink

Socialism is not a right wing ideology, though thumb up Hitler admits he is a socialist, uses socialist ideology and is the leader of the socialist party. I think we are done here.

Carry on and stop the hate, man!

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Stigma
Riiiiight, I mean Left. wink

Socialism is not a right wing ideology, though thumb up Hitler admits he is a socialist, uses socialist ideology and is the leader of the socialist party. I think we are done here.

Carry on and stop the hate, man!

Why don't you try editing Wiki with your opinion?

National Socialism is not Socialism. National Socialism is far right and that's a fact jack.

Stigma
Hmm mmm... Socialism is not socialism.....that makes perfect sense. You convinced me! No, not really erm

Hint: No matter what adjective you put before socialism,.... it is still a form of socialism. Historical fact. thumb up A shocker, I know wink


Have a nice evening and keep doing what you do best!

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Stigma
Hmm mmm... Socialism is not socialism.....that makes perfect sense. You convinced me! No, not really erm

Hint: No matter what adjective you put before socialism,.... it is still a form of socialism. Historical fact. thumb up A shocker, I know wink


Have a nice evening and keep doing what you do best!


So this makes sense. Socialism has adopted the SJW mental illness of the TransGenderization effect. Its now PanSocialisim.

Its can be whatever it wants to be whenever it wants.


And thats why we all should just let it rape small children whenit goes into Gender Neutral Bathrooms.

Its what "people" like STH want.








to rape children.


Happy Dance

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Stigma
Hmm mmm... Socialism is not socialism.....that makes perfect sense. You convinced me!... No, not really erm

Hint: No matter what adjective you put before soclialism,.... it is still a form of socialism.Historical fact. thumb up A shocker, I know wink


Have a nice evening and keep doing what you do best!

I suspect English is not your first language due to your inability to comprehend simple sentences and your unnecessary ellipses etc.

No, It's not a form of Socialism in anything but the term the National Socialists applied. Calling a Hot dog a Hot dog does not make it a Canine. And your inability to spell Socialialism twice in your above post. I do not want to put everyone on ignore here, but I'm starting to see the quality of education and or trolling on this site facing me here. It's a bit like Simpleton Central.

Flyattractor
So you LIED when you said you were going to put on him on IGNORE then?


Not surprising what with you being a LEFTIST. Cause they LIE all the damn time.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So this makes sense. Socialism has adopted the SJW mental illness of the TransGenderization effect. Its now PanSocialisim.

Its can be whatever it wants to be whenever it wants.


And thats why we all should just let it rape small children whenit goes into Gender Neutral Bathrooms.

Its what "people" like STH want.








to rape children.


Happy Dance

I suspect English is not your first language also due to your inability to use an apostrophe correctly. Your posts also have no value and raping children isn't a funny punchline, it just shows who and what you are.

No, It's not a form of Socialism in anything but the term the National Socialists applied. Calling a Hot dog a Hot dog does not make it a Canine. I do not want to put everyone on ignore here, but I'm starting to see the quality of education and or trolling on this site facing me here. It's a bit like Simpleton Central. I understand why you all voted Trump; it's the same reason people voted for Hitler. They had no skills and wanted to feel valued and superior purely on the colour of their skin. They were weak, so they needed a strong leader.

You are the second person on ignore tonight; your posts have no value and are barely legible.

Flyattractor
Well Claptu Barada Niktu to you to ButtFace.

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I suspect English is not your first language also due to your inability to use an apostrophe correctly. Your posts also have no value and raping children isn't a funny punchline, it just shows who and what you are.

No, It's not a form of Socialism in anything but the term the National Socialists applied. Calling a Hot dog a Hot dog does not make it a Canine. I do not want to put everyone on ignore here, but I'm starting to see the quality of education and or trolling on this site facing me here. It's a bit like Simpleton Central. I understand why you all voted Trump; it's the same reason people voted for Hitler. They had no skills and wanted to feel valued and superior purely on the colour of their skin. They were weak, so they needed a strong leader.

You are the second person on ignore tonight; your posts have no value and are barely legible.

Lol, learn history. Most people in Germany weren't nazi's. They followed Hitler out of desperation. When people get to a certain breaking point..they will follow anyone who says they can make things better.

This was because after WW1 the situation just got worse and worse. We demanded a shitload of money via reparations..and that hurt Germany, and then in 1929 you had the start of the great depression, which made things even worse and primed Germany for a nazi takeover.

So Trump does have that in common with Hitler, in that he won because people were so desperate for change.

Stigma
Originally posted by Stop the hate
And your inability to spell Socialialism twice in your above post. I do not want to put everyone on ignore here, but I'm starting to see the quality of education and or trolling on this site facing me here. It's a bit like Simpleton Central.
laughing out loud

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, learn history. Most people in Germany weren't nazi's. They followed Hitler out of desperation. When people get to a certain breaking point..they will follow anyone who says they can make things better.

This was because after WW1 the situation just got worse and worse. We demanded a shitload of money via reparations..and that hurt Germany, and then in 1929 you had the start of the great depression, which made things even worse and primed Germany for a nazi takeover.

So Trump does have that in common with Hitler, in that he won because people were so desperate for change.

Who said most Germans were Nazi's? They were weak for go along with the atrocities they were weak for buying into the Ideology the nation shamed itself which is why the Swastika is banned.

None of what you are saying is untrue, the parallels with Trump's election are clear and I don't disagree with your statement and like with Hitler racism was whipped up by Trump, which I notice you failed to comment on. Perhaps because you've bought into that also.

You're not really adding anything here. Try and keep up. By the way, Nazi is capitalized as a grammar Nazi, I am aware of this. Just a thought.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as I think you might have something interesting to say at some point.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Stigma
laughing out loud

Yes, I spelt it the same way as you, after correcting you. Keep up Stigma, this is what I mean about comprehension.

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
Who said most Germans were Nazi's? They were weak for go along with the atrocities they were weak for buying into the Ideology the nation shamed itself which is why the Swastika is banned.

None of what you are saying is untrue, the parallels with Trump's election are clear and I don't disagree with your statement and like with Hitler racism was whipped up by Trump, which I notice you failed to comment on. Perhaps because you've bought into that also.

You're not really adding anything here. Try and keep up. By the way, Nazi is capitalized as a grammar Nazi, I am aware of this. Just a thought.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as I think you might have something interesting to say at some point.

Lmao, I'm just correcting the dumb bullshit you spew. Typing out a rambling paragraph doesn't negate that. I know you think it does, but it doesn't.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
Lmao, I'm just correcting the dumb bullshit you spew. Typing out a rambling paragraph doesn't negate that. I know you think it does, but it doesn't.

You can do better. Add something. Please. #Nothing to add

Stigma
Originally posted by Stop the hate
Yes, I spelt it the same way as you, after correcting you. Keep up Stigma, this is what I mean about comprehension. LOL again.

I misspelled it Soclialism and 2 minutes later edited it to socialism. /shrug

Your post was 17 minutes after my edit. And you did not correct me, nor misspelled it the same way as me. You misspelled it differently as Socialialism.

Try to keep up with your own misconceptions. wink

TBH you need to up your game.thumb up

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
You can do better. Add something. Please. #Nothing to add

Do you want to try this reply again? We'll just call it a practice run for your real reply, which I'm sure will be witty and full of legit information.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Stigma
Okey, there is a great deal of misinformation and/or misrepresentation in this thread...

To make it clearer:



-- Adolf Hilter on his socialism

Taken from The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff.

The same, shortened quote can be found in other sources like Industry and Ideology: I. G. Farben in the Nazi Era by Peter Hayes; In Defense of Chaos: The Chaology of Politics, Economics and Human Action by L.K. Samuels and World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1 by Cyprian Blamires among others.


Also, this does not get any clearer than this admission:



-- Adolf Hitler on his Leftist ideology,

Taken from Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives by Allan Bullock.

Same quote can be found in Documents on Nazism: 1919-1945 by Jeremy Noakes, ‎Geoffrey Pridham and The Invention of Fascism by Lawrence Alan Rosenthal and other sources.


Also, the acronym "Nazism" stands for "National Socialism; German: Nationalsozialismus)" and Hitler was the leader of the The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party.



So yeah, Hitler was a Lefty, both in his political views and when he used a pen. (pun intended)


I hope this helped to clear up the issue. thumb up

... My friend, it seems like you haven't read the thread. I already addressed the fact that Hitler used the socialist party to gain power by pretending to be socialist himself but once had had total control over Germany abandoned the facade and sent any members of the Left to camps revealing that his true motivations was the promotion of the Aryan race and German nationalism. He hated communists possibly more then even Jews and was a great admirer of Mussolini the far right fascist dictator.

Stigma
Also, honest question: StopTheHate, are you Bardock? I smell the same BS. No offence.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So this makes sense. Socialism has adopted the SJW mental illness of the TransGenderization effect. Its now PanSocialisim.

Its can be whatever it wants to be whenever it wants.


And thats why we all should just let it rape small children whenit goes into Gender Neutral Bathrooms.

Its what "people" like STH want.








to rape children.


Happy Dance

You... you think transgender people want to rape children...?

Flyattractor
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
... My friend, it seems like you haven't read the thread. I already addressed the fact that Hitler used the socialist party to gain power by pretending to be socialist but once had had total control over Germany abandoned the facade and sent any members of the Left to camps revealing that his true motivations was the promotion of the Aryan race and German nationalism. He hated communists possibly more then even Jews and was a great admirer of Mussolini the far right fascist dictator.


I don;t blame him for not reading the thread. It can be hard with with how you Leftists get Diarrhea of the Post so often.

UCanShootMyNova
Are you actually serious in these replies fly?

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I don;t blame him for not reading the thread. It can be hard with with how you Leftists get Diarrhea of the Post so often.

You really hate people who don't share your political leanings don't you?

Stigma
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
... My friend, it seems like you haven't read the thread. I already addressed the fact that Hitler used the socialist party to gain power by pretending to be socialist but once had had total control over Germany abandoned the facade and sent any members of the Left to camps revealing that his true motivations was the promotion of the Aryan race and German nationalism. He hated communists possibly more then even Jews and was a great admirer of Mussolini the far right fascist dictator.
Admittedly, I saw your post but wanted to add just a few cents.

You are basically correct. Hitler used socialism and leftist rhetoric to gain absolute power. Was he a true believer, or was he just manipulating it all along? Hard to say, and tbh a similar argument can be made about any dictator.

As to Communists, I think they were in his top 10 list of people he hated. Hitler was also pragmatic in a way. He wanted to get all of the Left voters and Communists were a threat to his plans.

You are right, though. Once he had total control he went full nationalist. But it would not be possible to achieve without his totalitarian bend on socialism.

TBH Romanians, Slavic people, Gypsies and even priests were higher on that Hitler's "people I hate" list, it seems. I was in Dachau a few years ago and I was actually quite surprised that there were so many priests killed in that death camp.

Surtur
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You really hate people who don't share your political leanings don't you?

He doesn't seem to be a liberal so I doubt it.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Stigma
LOL again.

I misspelled it Soclialism and 2 minutes later edited it to socialism. /shrug

Your post was 17 minutes after my edit. And you did not correct me, nor misspelled it the same way as me. You misspelled it differently as Socialialism.

Try to keep up with your own misconceptions . wink

TBH you need to up your game.thumb up

Sorry, I couldn't post earlier than 17 minutes after you. I don't live online, and in fact, I'm off to sleep.
You should use misspelt instead of misspelled in your first line and twice in your fourth. Didn't your ESL teacher explain about this? You also spelt misconceptions wrong. Calm down Stigma. #triggered

I also have no idea what a Bardock is. This statement is in reply to your other post.

Back to topic.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You really hate people who don't share your political leanings don't you?

Nope. I find you Lefties to be highly amusing. Life would far more dull with out you.

But you do run off at the mouth quite a bit.

That is a proven fact.

Stigma

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Stigma
Admittedly, I saw your post but wanted to add just a few cents.

You are basically correct. Hitler used socialism and leftist rhetoric to gain absolute power. Was he a true believer, or was he just manipulating it all along? Hard to say, and tbh a similar argument can be made about any dictator.

As to Communists, I think they were in his top 10 list of people he hated. Hitler was also pragmatic in a way. He wanted to get all of the Left voters and Communists were a threat to his plans.

You are right, though. Once he had total control he went full nationalist. But it would not be possible to achieve without his totalitarian bend on socialism.

TBH Romanians, Slavic people, Gypsies and even priests were higher on that Hitler's "people I hate" list, it seems. I was in Dachau a few years ago and I was actually quite surprised that there were so many priests killed in that death camp.

Yeah, people tend to forget about the other groups Hitler persecuted because of the Jews. He was indeed particularly hostile to gypsies. The things he did to the mentally handicapped is also pretty disgusting.

I hadn't known of his anonymity to the priesthood though. I knew he didn't like them but I didn't know he went so far as to send them to camps.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Surtur
He doesn't seem to be a liberal so I doubt it.

I don't hate him and I'm ( for the most part ) a liberal. More socially then economically though.

Stigma
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yeah, people tend to forget about the other groups Hitler persecuted because of the Jews. He was indeed particularly hostile to gypsies. The things he did to the mentally handicapped is also pretty disgusting.
That is true.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Nope. I find you Lefties to be highly amusing. Life would far more dull with out you.

But you do run off at the mouth quite a bit.

That is a proven fact.

Didn't you talk about "thinning the herd" in regards to the Left?

Some of us do yes.

Would like to see the statistics for that tbh.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Didn't you talk about "thinning the herd" in regards to the Left?


Sadly, he doesn't know what he's writing, he puts his hands on his keyboard and embarrasses himself. It's why I have him on ignore. That and the fact his writing style is so atrocious I would rather stick pencils in my eyes than read it. Clearly online is the only place he gets attention. Unfortunately, you reposting his gibberish has meant I am obliged to provide this analysis.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I see the words liberal media bandied around far too often. As if the far right is more trustworthy...

Let's see what the far right have brought us...

Fascism
The Klan
The Holocaust

What have the liberal media brought you?

Watergate?

This is by no means a conclusive list but, why should the liberal media be seen as worse than the far right who brought you fascism?
Liberal media is a propaganda tool of Liberal leftists to brainwash people with their liberal fantasies and corporate interests that are not in sync with the real issues of the people and state.

Also, ever heard of Liberal Fascism?

Surtur
You don't even really need to put the word liberal in front of it. It seems like 99% of the MSM is liberal.

This is why hearing them complain about the media in the aftermath of Trumps election is just hilarious. Especially the ones who say the media didn't treat Hilary fairly. That is true they didn't treat her fairly, far too much of the MSM was in her corner. 90% of the shit about Trump was negative.

Even after Hilary lost, I've seen more than one person call her the most qualified presidential candidate in US history. So many articles where Trump is portrayed as 100% bad and Hilary 100% good and if you don't agree you just hate the fact she has a vagina. They whine about generalizing people(like minorities) and then have no qualms at generalizing Trump voters. Call them on it? It's different because..reasons.

Wait, how is anyone still taking these shitheads seriously? That is the greatest mystery of our century. I doubt even Sherlock Holmes could figure that out.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yeah, people tend to forget about the other groups Hitler persecuted because of the Jews. He was indeed particularly hostile to gypsies. The things he did to the mentally handicapped is also pretty disgusting.

I hadn't known of his anonymity to the priesthood though. I knew he didn't like them but I didn't know he went so far as to send them to camps.
Marxist socialists were equally hostile to Jews, political opponents and any who were deemed as threats to their ideals. They were the first to develop and utilize forced labor camps as tools of oppression.

Still wonder why Hitler is the villain and Stalin a hero?

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Surtur
You don't even really need to put the word liberal in front of it. It seems like 99% of the MSM is liberal.

This is why hearing them complain about the media in the aftermath of Trumps election is just hilarious. Especially the ones who say the media didn't treat Hilary fairly. That is true they didn't treat her fairly, far too much of the MSM was in her corner. 90% of the shit about Trump was negative.

Even after Hilary lost, I've seen more than one person call her the most qualified presidential candidate in US history. So many articles where Trump is portrayed as 100% bad and Hilary 100% good and if you don't agree you just hate the fact she has a vagina. They whine about generalizing people(like minorities) and then have no qualms at generalizing Trump voters. Call them on it? It's different because..reasons.

Wait, how is anyone still taking these shitheads seriously? That is the greatest mystery of our century. I doubt even Sherlock Holmes could figure that out.
True.

Liberals had some bright ideas initially but they are slowly but surely transforming into an intolerant bunch and a fascist regime. They will put conservatives to shame, if granted too much power.

Also, anybody with an iota of understanding of economic situation of the country would have identified Hillary Clinton as a threat to the well-being of American lower income classes and economic interests of the country much earlier than elections. She was willing to kill shale revolution for the sake of appeasing to global-warming leftists and to protect the interests of liberal corporate elite and some foreign states who were her chief financiers. I would say that Americans dodged a bullet here or it would have been fatal.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Liberal media is a propaganda tool of Liberal leftists to brainwash people with their liberal fantasies and corporate interests that are not in sync with the real issues of the people and state.

Also, ever heard of Liberal Fascism?

The right wing media is a propaganda tool of rightwing fascists to brainwash people with their neo-nazi fantasies and hate that are not in sync with the real issues of the people and state.

Have I heard of Liberal Fascism? Yes, a label applied by the right to things they don't like.

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
The right wing media is a propaganda tool of rightwing fascists to brainwash people with their neo-nazi fantasies and hate that are not in sync with the real issues of the people and state.

Do you think everyone on the right has neo-nazi fantasies?



You dodged this before so I'm going to ask you again: could you please define fascism?

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
Do you think everyone on the right has neo-nazi fantasies?



You dodged this before so I'm going to ask you again: could you please define fascism?

Do you think all people of the left have fantasies out of step with reality?

I answered it before, read wherever I did. I can't help if you didn't understand the reply.

Stop using boring question troll tactics, please. #Silent Master 2

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
Do you think all people of the left have fantasies out of step with reality?

If they believe all those on the right are neo nazi's then yep, they are out of step with reality. Plus just plain dumb as f*ck.



I didn't see your response, so why not give me a brief explanation again?

What is fascism to you? Give us an example of fascism.

Surtur
LMAO! Oh I see what you did. You did dodge my question initially, then after someone pointed it out..you went back and edited it.

Originally posted by Stop the hate
Early fascism, people like the Fasci indeed described themselves as from the left. However, since National Socialism and WWII the term fascism has usually only been applied to the far right. Glad I could help.

You don't seem to be giving your own definition of fascism here.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
LMAO! Oh I see what you did. You did dodge my question initially, then after someone pointed it out..you went back and edited it.



You don't seem to be giving your own definition of fascism here.

No, I didn't, I replied, It's the definition I subscribe to. Why don't you try editing wiki with yours?

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
No, I didn't, I replied, It's the definition I subscribe to. Why don't you try editing wiki with yours?

You edited your post lol.

You also didn't even define fascism lol. You say early fascism had people that described themselves as from the left. Then you say since WW2 it's only been used by the right.

The question wasn't which side left or right has fascism been applied by. The question was how do you define fascism.

I have a hunch on why you're avoiding a direct answer. Because you're struggling to come up with a definition that couldn't be applied to modern day liberals.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Surtur
You edited your post lol.

You also didn't even define fascism lol. You say early fascism had people described from the left. Then you say since WW2 it's only been used by the right.

The question wasn't: which side left or right has fascism been applied by. The question was how do you define fascism.

I think it clearly defines fascism is generally accepted as from the right since WWII. A definition of fascism I ascribe to. Keep up. Now, try editing Wiki with your definition.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I think it clearly defines fascism is generally accepted as from the right since WWII. A definition of fascism I ascribe to. Keep up. Now, try editing Wiki with your definition.

#Triggered

Surtur
Originally posted by Stop the hate
I think it clearly defines fascism

You think wrong



Lol, I didn't ask you who it's accepted as being from. I asked you for how you define fascism. You see how you expose yourself as a troll?

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