Would Obama have beaten Trump?

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|King Joker|
Vote in the poll and discuss below.

UCanShootMyNova
You can't stump the Trump.

|King Joker|
You can if you aren't an atrocious candidate like Hillary, tbh.

UCanShootMyNova
How I gotta put this to get it across to you ya yellowbellied leeberal. You can't trump da trump.

Emperordmb
Hillary won the popular vote against Trump. Throw in the democrat who was already more popular than her (see 2008 primary) before she did a bunch of atrocious despicable shit that made everyone hate her, and there's no contest really. Not to mention the fact that Obama has 10X as much charisma as Hillary.

Stop the hate
Originally posted by Emperordmb

Not to mention the fact that Obama has 10X as much charisma as Hillary. or Trump.

UCanShootMyNova
thumb up

NewGuy01
Probably.

vansonbee
Yup, president Obama would of beaten Trump in a election. Since, we didn't know how awful Obama was in the last 8 yrs. Thanks to Obama, there won't be another black president for a long time.

jaden101
Yes...because lazy n*****s would have gotten off their lazy n****r asses and voted for their fellow n****r.

VOTE SOMEBODY 2020

dadudemon
Originally posted by |King Joker|
You can if you aren't an atrocious candidate like Hillary, tbh.

thumb up

Originally posted by jaden101
Yes...because lazy n*****s would have gotten off their lazy n****r asses and voted for their fellow n****r.

VOTE SOMEBODY 2020

haha, WTF dude?

Henry_Pym
According to the polls he would have, but the polls also said Hillary would destroy Trump.

Hillary had the woman card to shield her from having to verbally duel Trump, Obama would have been embarred. Keep in mind Jeb Bush was the frontrunner before battling Trump. Jeb was supposed to beat Hillary.

jaden101
Originally posted by dadudemon


haha, WTF dude?

I'm just getting in the 2017 spirit 😂

carthage
Originally posted by jaden101
Yes...because lazy n*****s would have gotten off their lazy n****r asses and voted for their fellow n****r.

VOTE SOMEBODY 2020

Such edge

jaden101
Originally posted by carthage
Such edge

https://hear-my-voice.org.uk/sites/mencap/files/uploaded-images/The-Edge.jpg

Surtur
I don't know what to say. Obviously a big part of me thinks Obama would win, but then I remember how everyone thought Hilary was guaranteed victory as well and it back fired.

Stop the hate

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know what to say. Obviously a big part of me thinks Obama would win, but then I remember how everyone thought Hilary was guaranteed victory as well and it back fired.
Yeah but Hillary was roughly even with Trump honestly, I think Obama would get more support than the easier to hate Hillary Clinton

NewGuy01
Ah, of course, how could I forget? Of course Trump would still win, because the candidates are actually elected by our masters in Russia! Silly me. laughing out loud

Stop the hate
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ah, of course, how could I forget? Of course Trump would still win, because the candidates are actually elected by our masters in Russia! Silly me. laughing out loud

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Hahahaha They might as well be. smokin'

Surtur

BackFire
I think he would have.

What are the things that cost Hillary the election?

One is a lack of charisma and likeability. Obama's always come off as likeable and he's undeniably charismatic.

Another is the idea of Clinton being a criminal/corrupt, and all the emails. This likely wouldn't have happened with Obama, and if it did he would have handled it much better than Clinton did. He's incredibly good at deflecting things, which I guess goes back to his innate charisma.

And the other big one is the angry Bernie supporters who stayed home. This also wouldn't have been a problem because Bernie never would have run if Obama had been allowed to run for a third term, so those people who were angry at Hillary and decided to sit out or protest vote probably would have voted for Obama since they would have no reason to be angry in the first place.

The other things in Obama's favor would have been a very high approval rating, higher than both Trump and Clinton while they were running. Even now while Trump is enjoying his post election win approval rating bump, Obama's is still higher.

Also the black vote probably would have come out for Obama much moreso than they did for Clinton.

So yeah I think Obama probably would have won by a pretty significant margin.

Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
Also the black vote probably would have come out for Obama much moreso than they did for Clinton.


Really, what would make you say this? Surely just the policies of Obama and stuff, correct? They'd resonate more with blacks.

Or did you mean they'd come out more for Obama merely due to his skin color? In other words: racism would play a role.

Robtard
TIL: Black people voting for Obama is due to racist black people

Oh Surtur, you never fail to be you.

Henry_Pym
The truth isn't racist.

Only an ideologue could possibly think that.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Black people voting for Obama is due to racist black people

I merely inquired as to why he thought blacks would come out much more for Obama than Hilary. I did give the possibility it was just over their love of Obama's policies as opposed to Clintons, but that doesn't support your narrative so shh best not mention it.




Why would I? You certainly never fail to be you. I feel it's only fair I return the favor.

SquallX
Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Black people voting for Obama is due to racist black people

Oh Surtur, you never fail to be you.

That's ****ing funny! Aren't you the same tards that claims whites are racist for voting for Trump?

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
Really, what would make you say this? Surely just the policies of Obama and stuff, correct? They'd resonate more with blacks.

Or did you mean they'd come out more for Obama merely due to his skin color? In other words: racism would play a role.

What would make me say that is simple numbers and history.

https://www.empornium.me/users/recover? token=6f96fa0470cf558c586f2d3bbad0cf6023791f8e49f6
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Exit polls show that Clinton had lower support among black voters than Obama did in 2012.

Of course, these polls also show her with lower support among other groups as well.

Whether they would vote for him based purely on his skin color or policies is not something I can really say, but the reality remains that he did a better job appealing to them than she did.

Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
What would make me say that is simple numbers and history.

https://www.empornium.me/users/recover? token=6f96fa0470cf558c586f2d3bbad0cf6023791f8e49f6
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Exit polls show that Clinton had lower support among black voters than Obama did in 2012.

Of course, these polls also show her with lower support among other groups as well.

Whether they would vote for him based purely on his skin color or policies is not something I can really say, but the reality remains that he did a better job appealing to them than she did.

I'm asking you what you feel explains the numbers. What would make blacks come out more?

If Obama had the same policies he has always had, but was white..would you have still said the blacks would come out more?

Henry_Pym
Lol, where were you in 2008? I was in Iraq and even I saw the zealotry from alot of black actors, news people, talking heads, sports people, musicians that all said, and I'm paraphrasing, "he's black, thus he knows our struggle and will help us."

Now whether that's racism or not, honestly I don't care but it is the reality. Black people in mass voted for Obama because of the color of his skin.

NemeBro
Of course people voted for Obama because he was black. Did everyone who voted for him do so because he was black? Of course not, but it certainly played a part.

Shakyamunison
Would Obama have beaten Trump?
Hell, ya! wink

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm asking you what you feel explains the numbers. What would make blacks come out more?

If Obama had the same policies he has always had, but was white..would you have still said the blacks would come out more?

I think it's probably a combination of things. Him being black would be among them. He's also very good at targeting specific groups and altering his campaigning to attract them. He's one of the most gifted political campaigners around and even if you changed his skin color but changed nothing else, he'd probably still be able to appeal to many groups - black people included - very effectively.

Robtard
Originally posted by BackFire
if you changed his skin color but changed nothing else, he'd probably still be able to appeal to many groups - black people included - very effectively.

http://i.imgur.com/v1VNc.jpg

I'd still vote for that guy

Henry_Pym
OAN was talking about a poll that was done on this and Trump was ahead of Obama, but I didn't catch who did it. So take that for whatever you will.

Deadline
HAHA who voted yes?

Sacred Fire
Originally posted by Robtard
http://i.imgur.com/v1VNc.jpg

I'd still vote for that guy

Edward Norton?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
http://i.imgur.com/v1VNc.jpg

I'd still vote for that guy

Sure you would, champ, sure you would thumb up

Originally posted by Sacred Fire
Edward Norton?

Looks more like a grown up Justin Bieber.

JKBart
Nearly anybody who would replace Clinton or Trump in their respective parties would have won lol

Lord Lucien
Like Bernie?

JKBart
defo

Raisen
I'd rather have a third term of Obama than a term of hillary. Yeah, he probably could have beat trump

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Raisen
I'd rather have a third term of Obama than a term of hillary. Yeah, he probably could have beat trump

What would be the diff tween a OboyObama tern and a The HillDawg term?

Other then the amount of criminal corruption?

Surtur
Originally posted by Flyattractor
What would be the diff tween a OboyObama tern and a The HillDawg term?

Other then the amount of criminal corruption?

Number of bombs dropped. Hilary would have a challenge, Obama had 26,000 dropped in 2016. Several bombs dropped for every hour of every single day in 2016.

It's okay we only killed like 116 civilians. Oh btw we decreed any male in the area of military age would automatically be counted as a terrorist not civilian death. That's how we do.

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