Who had the Better plan: Bane (Knightfall) vs. Doctor Octopus (Sinister Six)

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carthage
Simple thread

Who had the more concise, detailed, and planned their dismantling of their opponent through prep? Was it Otto convincing the Sinister Six to work together and kidnapping May/Peter's love interest, or was it Bane's surveillance of Batman, breaking open Arkham, and gradual breaking down of Batman until he literally broke him?

Who was the better planner?

riv6672
Bane's seemed simpler, more manipulative...i'll say Bane.

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