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So in the past few years, numerous people in the transgendered community have claimed "non-binary" gender identities, and this has lead to several of those people and sympathizers protesting a portion of the current English language, feeling that there should be gender neutral pronouns or gendered pronouns that conform to something other than male and female, like xe and zir and stuff like that. This has stirred up quite a bit of controversy within the United States, however that isn't what this topic is about.

My question is how people pushing for these gender neutral pronouns in the English language would deal with a language that is entirely gender binary, such as spanish, where every noun and pronoun is either male or female with no exceptions at this point, even for things like tables and computers and libraries.

Would they accept the binary gendering of the nouns and pronouns in the language even in reference to people claiming to have a non-binary gender identity? Would they demand that a primary staple of such a language be altered at that specific point, arguably perverting the nature of the language at one specific point, even when it remains for gender neutral subjects like chairs and computers? Or would they attack the underlying nature of the language itself as being something that propagates the notion that gender is binary and declare the nature of the language itself transphobic against non-binary identities? And how could they reconcile the latter of these two options this with the desire to not appear racist if they conflate attacks on culture and ideology with attacks on race?

I feel like this would be a non-binary SJW's worst nightmare, since they'd either have to leave the language alone and admit defeat and allow what in their eyes is a form of transphobia, or they'd have to take upon themselves the impossible task of challenging the underlying structure of an entire language while also appearing racist or culturally insensitive by their own ideological perspective.

Talk to these people, they are 99% of the time just moral busybodies, and the rest are so cooky they couldn't even comprehend that question.
Also, transgendered people are in some stage of transition... By default non-binary aren't.

Transgender
Adj
Denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

Unless someone who claims to have a non-binary gender identity has a perfectly corresponding genetically ****ed up biological sex, they absolutely qualify as transgender.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Would they accept the binary gendering of the nouns and pronouns in the language even in reference to people claiming to have a non-binary gender identity? Would they demand that a primary staple of such a language be altered at that specific point, arguably perverting the nature of the language at one specific point, even when it remains for gender neutral subjects like chairs and computers? Or would they attack the underlying nature of the language itself as being something that propagates the notion that gender is binary and declare the nature of the language itself transphobic against non-binary identities? And how could they reconcile the latter of these two options this with the desire to not appear racist if they conflate attacks on culture and ideology with attacks on race?

I feel like this would be a non-binary SJW's worst nightmare, since they'd either have to leave the language alone and admit defeat and allow what in their eyes is a form of transphobia, or they'd have to take upon themselves the impossible task of challenging the underlying structure of an entire language while also appearing racist or culturally insensitive by their own ideological perspective.
Knowing some of these people, it wouldn't be beyond them to deem an entire language 'heteronormative' or 'transphobic'.

Oh, most SJWs don't have the self-awareness to see or acknowledge that problem. Well, maybe some of them would engage in Olympic-level mental gymnastics to support their cognitive dissonance.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Transgender
Adj
Denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

Unless someone who claims to have a non-binary gender identity has a perfectly corresponding genetically ****ed up biological sex, they absolutely qualify as transgender. Trans is short for transitioning gender...

Lol,

Imagine giving a **** about stuff like this.

Cringe.

Originally posted by jaden101
Imagine giving a **** about stuff like this.

The people who cry the loudest about this don't even tend to be trans people. It's the virtue signalers trying to show everyone else how awesome and full of empathy they are(as long as you agree with every single thing they say). But people can't even be consistent, look at how North Carolina lost many things of their bathroom bill, including the NBA all star game.

Yet go to a different NBA game? And hilarity ensues:

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First they try to convince him to use the family bathroom(sooo accepting of other peoples gender identities). Then they let him use the ladies room..after sending in someone to first scout it out to make sure it is empty, and then sending along what was essentially a body guard to stand outside the bathroom and warn anyone wandering close that there is indeed a dude with a dick in the ladies room.

So this just goes to show actions speak louder than words. They preach tolerance, but when push comes to shove? They have to put the person on hold and tell them to wait there while they go run around making sure nobody will get offended, then of course they escort you to the bathroom of your choice.

Originally posted by Surtur
The people who cry the loudest about this don't even tend to be trans people. It's the virtue signalers trying to show everyone else how awesome and full of empathy they are(as long as you agree with every single thing they say). But people can't even be consistent, look at how North Carolina lost many things of their bathroom bill, including the NBA all star game.

Yet go to a different NBA game? And hilarity ensues:

v6sNrX1Qqd8&t

First they try to convince him to use the family bathroom(sooo accepting of other peoples gender identities). Then they let him use the ladies room..after sending in someone to first scout it out to make sure it is empty, and then sending along what was essentially a body guard to stand outside the bathroom and warn anyone wandering close that there is indeed a dude with a dick in the ladies room.

So this just goes to show actions speak louder than words. They preach tolerance, but when push comes to shove? They have to put the person on hold and tell them to wait there while they go run around making sure nobody will get offended, then of course they escort you to the bathroom of your choice.

I'll be honest. I never read this reply or watched the video because I simply don't give enough of a shit about anything to do with the issue.

The only thing that would interest me in the 'non binary gender' field is if there's studies on how chemicals in food and drinks that effect hormones involved in gender or more abstract whether there's a biological force acting on the human species that could make gender irrelevant through evolution and result in asexual reproduction and whether this whole non binary gender thing is the beginning of that. A bit far out there but at least it wouldn't be boring.

Originally posted by jaden101
I'll be honest. I never read this reply or watched the video because I simply don't give enough of a shit about anything to do with the issue.

The only thing that would interest me in the 'non binary gender' field is if there's studies on how chemicals in food and drinks that effect hormones involved in gender or more abstract whether there's a biological force acting on the human species that could make gender irrelevant through evolution and result in asexual reproduction and whether this whole non binary gender thing is the beginning of that. A bit far out there but at least it wouldn't be boring.

I'll give you a brief summary if you'll bare with me: NC passed bathroom laws, lots of companies pulled out in protest, including the NBA with their all star game.

Dude goes to another NBA game(the raptors) and says he identifies as female and wants to use the ladies room. First they try to convince him to use the family restroom. He won't, so they then have to go get a supervisor. He goes and makes sure nobody is in the bathroom, sends someone else with him to stand outside the bathroom door to make sure everyone knows a dude is in the ladies room.

So while I think this entire thing is stupid, since if you look female nobody is going to stop you from going to the ladies room anyways, but I'd like some consistency.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'll give you a brief summary if you'll bare with me: NC passed bathroom laws, lots of companies pulled out in protest, including the NBA with their all star game.

Dude goes to another NBA game(the raptors) and says he identifies as female and wants to use the ladies room. First they try to convince him to use the family restroom. He won't, so they then have to go get a supervisor. He goes and makes sure nobody is in the bathroom, sends someone else with him to stand outside the bathroom door to make sure everyone knows a dude is in the ladies room.

So while I think this entire thing is stupid, since if you look female nobody is going to stop you from going to the ladies room anyways, but I'd like some consistency.

Sounds gay...

Originally posted by jaden101
Sounds gay...


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U better f*cking have meant happy!