Rhino vs Tiger Shark

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TheOneFirestorm
Scenario 1
3 days of Prep

Scenario 2
Random Encounter
Location: On the Sand ground of a Beach Miami Florida

Scenario 3
Random Encounter
Location: Inside a McDonalds Lincoln Nebraska

riv6672
TS might take scenario 1.

leonidas
prep...? wth would either of these guys do with prep...? i guess he could somehow try and trick him into the water, maybe? even on land shark should be pretty close though. i'd give rhino a slight edge, maybe.

TethAdamTheRock
Rhino is a class 80, he would give colossus a run for his money

leonidas
shark has given namor hell above and below the water. he'd also be faster and those claws of his could do a lot of damage.... it would be a close, tough fight either way imo.

riv6672
I could see TS being a back scratcher for Rhino.

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
I could see TS being a back scratcher for Rhino.
He's got adamantium teeth and claws and his physical stats are close to Namor's. He'll do a lot more than scratch Rhino's back, he'll gut him.

riv6672
If he could do that he'd have gutted Namor ages ago.

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
If he could do that he'd have gutted Namor ages ago.
A) Namor >>>>>>>>>>>Rhino
B) He got them relatively recently

ShadowFyre
Namor has made short work of Rhino before when hydrated and Namor would work Colossus in a matter of hits. Im not trying to use ABC logic but Tiger Shark should win with miderate difficulty

riv6672
I'd like to know who all TS has gutted.

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
I'd like to know who all TS has gutted.
All you gotta know is that it's an option he has. Adamantium teeth and claws(?) plus Namoresque physical stats means Rhino dies.
https://s28.postimg.org/sibsumy55/63220_marvel_super_heroes_summer_1992_33_122_254.jpg https://s28.postimg.org/tynbcs121/63228_marvel_super_heroes_summer_1992_36_122_867.jpg https://s28.postimg.org/iat9i8bx5/63234_marvel_super_heroes_summer_1992_37_122_102.jpg https://s28.postimg.org/4ieumll5l/63241_marvel_super_heroes_summer_1992_38_122_450.jpg

Notice how even a weakened Namor took a Rhino charge and lived.

juggernaut74
Didn't Gargan Venom spank Shark's ass?

zopzop
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Gargan Venom spank Shark's ass?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3691698-one+shot+ko.jpg
They're both jobbers but Tiger Shark would kill Rhino.

juggernaut74
Loosing to Cap isn't as bad as loosing to Gargan Venom.

BTW do you have the scans of Venom taking on Shark?

TheOneFirestorm
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Loosing to Cap isn't as bad as loosing to Gargan Venom.

BTW do you have the scans of Venom taking on Shark?

Losing to a Super Soldier isn't surprising or a dishonor because Captain America has superior combat skills, vast superior intelligence so not surprising he fastly found the weakness of Rhino.

Also unless I missed something Scorpion isn't a cretin while Rhino undeniably is so not sure why the hell you say it's so terrible that Tiger Shark lost to Venom (Gargan).

TheOneFirestorm
Originally posted by leonidas
prep...? wth would either of these guys do with prep...? i guess he could somehow try and trick him into the water, maybe? even on land shark should be pretty close though. i'd give rhino a slight edge, maybe.

Hiw exactly rhino the slight edge when Tiger Shark has multiple advantages including intelligence.
I don't doubt Tiger Shark would bring something to make himself wet if he needed it or bring a harpoon to pierce his horn and have fun with the Rhino.
I imagine Rhino would bring fish to the fight believing Tiger Shark wil let his guard then easily charge him.

riv6672
Originally posted by zopzop
All you gotta know is that it's an option he has.
Going by every thread on this site ever, thats not all i 'gotta know', sorry.
Its your theory and i respect it.

Supermutant
Tiger Shark is one of a few characters that jobs more than Rhino.

http://panels-of-interest.tumblr.com/post/33502542336/deadpool-vs-tiger-shark-from-deadpool-2008

riv6672
I dunno, Rhino jobbing to Misty Knight/Colleen Wing was pretty dope!

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
I dunno, Rhino jobbing to Misty Knight/Colleen Wing was pretty dope!
laughing

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Namor has made short work of Rhino before when hydrated and Namor would work Colossus in a matter of hits. Im not trying to use ABC logic but Tiger Shark should win with miderate difficulty tiger shark is class 30 at best

tkitna
http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153236-0687015901-punis.jpg
http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153237-4410838559-punis.jpg
http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153238-4428969478-punis.jpg

Faceless808
^^^I've seen this scan before. But it shows TS teeth breaking (IOW, not adamantium) and he's choking out someone who is near Namor stats. Is this the current TS that Zop was describing?

juggernaut74
I don't think the Tiger Shark he is describing exists.

riv6672
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I don't think the Tiger Shark he is describing exists.
HAHAHAHA!!!!

tkitna
Originally posted by Faceless808
^^^I've seen this scan before. But it shows TS teeth breaking (IOW, not adamantium) and he's choking out someone who is near Namor stats. Is this the current TS that Zop was describing?

I'm not sure what version of Tiger Shark that was, but it should have never happened. That was some piss poor writing there.

leonidas
shark is all over the map in showings which is why i said this is close. for all his jobbing though, rhino DOES have some decent showings. strength would be about even, rhino has better durability imo, speed is close (rhino has caught spiderman in the past), shark is probably a bit smarter (not that it would matter much) so stat wise i think it's very close. the teeth and claws are the biggest threat in the fight, but rhino's horn can DEF end this thing if he connects with it. meh, i still say it's really close but maybe a slight edge to shark after some consideration.

juggernaut74
Shark fought Savage Hulk back in the day I'm not sure he did better than Rhino ever did.

zopzop
Originally posted by tkitna
http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153236-0687015901-punis.jpg
http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153237-4410838559-punis.jpg
http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/137442/3153238-4428969478-punis.jpg
You realize that writers are idiots when it comes to street levelers right?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111119340/3622019-5119231104-31254.jpg

zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas
shark is all over the map in showings which is why i said this is close. for all his jobbing though, rhino DOES have some decent showings. strength would be about even, rhino has better durability imo, speed is close (rhino has caught spiderman in the past), shark is probably a bit smarter (not that it would matter much) so stat wise i think it's very close. the teeth and claws are the biggest threat in the fight, but rhino's horn can DEF end this thing if he connects with it. meh, i still say it's really close but maybe a slight edge to shark after some consideration.
Rhino connected with his horn at least twice vs a weakened Namor. Nothing happened. Tiger shark survived (KOed but survived) an all out assault by Wolverine (surprise SNIKT then repeated swipes with his claws).

Supermutant
Originally posted by riv6672
I dunno, Rhino jobbing to Misty Knight/Colleen Wing was pretty dope!

Tiger Shark has been there and done that with just Misty."Yeearrgghh! my hand!"
laughing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111144184/4037988-0253465121-villa.jpg

Restrained and beaten by Tigra then taken into police custody tied up only with rope. laughing out loud

http://i.imgur.com/rYviQlW.png

I really don't get this Tiger Shark love here all of sudden. Plus IIRC only an alternative world Tiger Shark had adamantium teeth doing that Offenders vs Defender ridiculously Rulk arc.

Anyway Tiger Shark has lost to Spider-Woman and Daredevil on different occasions. He probably has more embarrassing defeats as I am by no means a Tiger Shark expert. But, I haven't seen him beat anyone that matters since his initial appearances. He's definitely not a "better" jobber than Rhino.

zopzop
Originally posted by Supermutant
Tiger Shark has been there and done that with just Misty."Yeearrgghh! my hand!"
laughing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111144184/4037988-0253465121-villa.jpg

Restrained and beaten by Tigra then taken into police custody tied up only with rope. laughing out loud

http://i.imgur.com/rYviQlW.png

I really don't get this Tiger Shark love here all of sudden. Plus IIRC only an alternative world Tiger Shark had adamantium teeth doing that Offenders vs Defender ridiculously Rulk arc.

Anyway Tiger Shark has lost to Spider-Woman and Daredevil on different occasions. He probably has more embarrassing defeats as I am by no means a Tiger Shark expert. But, I haven't seen him beat anyone that matters since his initial appearances. He's definitely not a "better" jobber than Rhino.
Wow, so sure of yourself but way to leave out the CONTEXT of the Tigra fight. Here's the previous page, he was owning them till they ripped his water suit and Hell Cat bound his legs with a supped up metal wire :
https://s30.postimg.org/jvl0cny1p/wca016_08.jpg

I'm sure if I cared I'd find context to the rest of his low showings but whatever.

Supermutant
Originally posted by zopzop
Wow, so sure of yourself but way to leave out the CONTEXT of the Tigra fight. Here's the previous page, he was owning them till they ripped his water suit and Hell Cat bound his legs with a supped up metal wire :
https://s30.postimg.org/jvl0cny1p/wca016_08.jpg

I'm sure if I cared I'd find context to the rest of his low showings but whatever.

no expression What, that's the whole point he's a jobber. You think Rhino can't rip that suit open, if he even need to. And look at how quickly he lost his strength, it was almost instantly.

All of his battles here are on land so he would have to be in the water to even be a threat. And again when has 616 Tiger Shark ever attack some with adamantium teeth? Furthermore, I care next to nothing about jobber Rhino, but Tiger Shark isn't anything special or great. Especially not the way you are attempting to make him out to be. A serious Namor nearly beat Tiger Shark to death and Norman Osbourn two shotted him and threw him out a skyscraper in the middle of putting on the Iron Patriot armor.

zopzop
Originally posted by Supermutant
Tiger Shark has been there and done that with just Misty."Yeearrgghh! my hand!"
laughing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111144184/4037988-0253465121-villa.jpg


AAAAAAAAAAANDDD I knew it. Here's the context behind the Misty Knight fight :
He was recovering from a Mind Phuck (misty even mentions it's affecting his fighting), he took a massive grenade to the face point blank, THEN misty catches his arm (the scan supermutant posted) and KOes him with a blast from her STARK TECH bionic arm.
https://s28.postimg.org/g8usde5ex/context_1.jpg https://s28.postimg.org/602b7khd5/context_2.jpg https://s28.postimg.org/kknzg51pl/context_3.jpg

I'm pretty sure Rhino didn't go through all that while facing Misty Knight.

zopzop
Originally posted by Supermutant
no expression What, that's the whole point he's a jobber. You think Rhino can't rip that suit open, if he even need to. And look at how quickly he lost his strength, it was almost instantly.

It was obvious PIS to save them from being torn apart by him. He's been in battles with CL100 beings (even if he didn't win them) and they never ruptured his suit.

Supermutant
In the scan I've shown Tiger Shark even says, "My head's clearin' pretty fast..."
I'm glad you posted those though, it show Tiger Shark begging Bombshell to help him against Misty. I don't think those scans are helping your case.

zopzop
Originally posted by Supermutant
In the scan I've shown Tiger Shark even says, "My head's clearin' pretty fast..."
I'm glad you posted those though, it show Tiger Shark begging Bombshell to help him against Misty. I don't think those scans are helping your case.
Are you blind or just dense? Did you not see him eat a replusor blast and a massive grenade while 'his head was clearing up' before she caught his arm and KOed him with another repulsor blast?

Why don't you acknowledge that? Now post the Rhino fight with Misty. I bet there's no repulsor rays or grenades there.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Supermutant
In the scan I've shown Tiger Shark even says, "My head's clearin' pretty fast..."
I'm glad you posted those though, it show Tiger Shark begging Bombshell to help him against Misty. I don't think those scans are helping your case.

They are both jobbers on equal levels.

leonidas
Originally posted by zopzop
Rhino connected with his horn at least twice vs a weakened Namor. Nothing happened. Tiger shark survived (KOed but survived) an all out assault by Wolverine (surprise SNIKT then repeated swipes with his claws).

and his horn has flat out penetrated hulk's skin....and he's knocked thing around. he's a jobber, but let's not pretend he has NO good showings.... his best are certainly comparable to shark's, and his lows are also about the same. there really is no way to see this that isn't close. /shrug

zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas
and his horn has flat out penetrated hulk's skin....and he's knocked thing around. he's a jobber, but let's not pretend he has NO good showings.... his best are certainly comparable to shark's, and his lows are also about the same. there really is no way to see this that isn't close. /shrug
That was Grey Hulk no? Which is odd seeing as how he couldn't gore a weakened Namor after two attacks with is horn.

Added bonus regarding the whole Misty Knight vs Rhino and Misty Knight vs Tiger Shark. The Misty Knight that fought Rhino had her ORIGINAL bionic arm (if I'm not mistaken). The Misty that fought Tiger Shark had her UPGRADED bionic arm.

EDIT :
I was right. Misty had her original bionic arm in DotD 1 when she owned Rhino. She got her new Stark Tech arm in DotD 6. The got a further upgrade to the arm in Shadowland. This twice upgraded arm is what she fought Tiger Shark with.

Supermutant
Originally posted by juggernaut74
They are both jobbers on equal levels.

I'm very Ok with this which is really my point. thumb up

juggernaut74
Originally posted by leonidas
and his horn has flat out penetrated hulk's skin....and he's knocked thing around. he's a jobber, but let's not pretend he has NO good showings.... his best are certainly comparable to shark's, and his lows are also about the same. there really is no way to see this that isn't close. /shrug He had a good fight against Samson back in the day. Samson had to play possum to beat Rhino iirc. in one fight.

Supermutant
Short Lived T'Bolt, Charcoal koes Tiger Shark with one shot.

https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33076288_zops_hero.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33076290_zops_hero_koed.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33076296_zops_hero_defeated.jpg

Supermutant
Originally posted by zopzop
Are you blind or just dense? Did you not see him eat a replusor blast and a massive grenade while 'his head was clearing up' before she caught his arm and KOed him with another repulsor blast?

Why don't you acknowledge that? Now post the Rhino fight with Misty. I bet there's no repulsor rays or grenades there.

Really resulting to name calling over Tiger Shark. What's next a Killer Croc fanboy is going to threaten to beat me up over the world wide web?

Look Zop, you should at least have low herald standards before getting riled up.
Besides your version of Tiger Shark with adamantium teeth and claws should tank all that and bite Misty's head off.

Supermutant
Originally posted by zopzop
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3691698-one+shot+ko.jpg
They're both jobbers but Tiger Shark would kill Rhino.

https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33079586_dd1shotts.jpg

On land edge to Rhino although they both deserve a double ko.

riv6672
I liked TS in his human form. The other seems too much a King Shark rip off.

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