Weakest people who could lift this object.

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CosmicComet
http://www.travelonline.com/northern-territory/ayers-rock-uluru/accommodation/voyages-emu-walk-apartments/uluru-40890-crop.jpg

Ayers Rock in Australia.

Hardly a real mountain in size, but iirc its estimated at a respectable 4 million tons.


Who are some people that could lift this, but would be maxed out or close to it.

TethAdamTheRock
Grey Hulk is the weakest

CosmicComet
You think Wonder Man could pull this off?

TethAdamTheRock
Yes

Also Blue Marvel

Weakest is probably Wonder Woman

CosmicComet
Blue Marvel moved a meteor the size of kansas or some shit. He's way too strong for this task.

And WW? Lolwut.

golem370
Lifting and Pulling is not comparable I pushed my 2 ton car but I couldn't lift it.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by golem370
Lifting and Pulling is not comparable I pushed my 2 ton car but I couldn't lift it. Have you every Tried lifting it?

DarkSaint85
Geoforce.

zopzop
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Geoforce.
Really? I knew he wasn't a pushover, power wise, but I never pegged him as this strong.

DarkSaint85
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carver9
Real question. Does any top tier have fts of lifting something like this while standing (no flight, nothing).

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Real question. Does any top tier have fts of lifting something like this while standing (no flight, nothing).
That's a real question? Hmm. You must be new to comics.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111231677/4560664-3847864-3173677-1421025896-27629.png

carver9
Originally posted by carver9
Real question. Does any top tier have fts of lifting something like this while standing (no flight, nothing).

I'm sure Dark replied to me because every time someone quote him, it's in reference to something I said. With that said, I'm sure he probably didn't understand let alone read my question, so let me repost it for him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I'm sure Dark replied to me because every time someone quote him, it's in reference to something I said. With that said, I'm sure he probably didn't understand let alone read my question, so let me repost it for him.

I amsure carver just skimmed my answer, without understanding let alone read it, so let me repost it.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111231677/4560664-3847864-3173677-1421025896-27629.png

Superman, whilst standing, without flying, lifted the equivalent of the mass of the entire Earth off his chest.

I now post the entire scene. Note his position, and the machine's position.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4142071-0617523294-Super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4142072-8310604450-Super.jpg

He's actually doing a military press.

Going back to the question, Superman is a top tier, who has a feat of lifting something LIKE a mountain (in actual fact, many many times over this), whilst standing, without flight etc.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's a real question? Hmm. You must be new to comics.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111231677/4560664-3847864-3173677-1421025896-27629.png I dont think thats what he asked, lifting machine / lifting gigantic 2-3 mile rock in diameter

CosmicComet
Carver don't derail the thread. Thanks.

DarkSaint85

ghostman
Originally posted by carver9
Real question. Does any top tier have fts of lifting something like this while standing (no flight, nothing).

what kind of bull is this?

DarkSaint85
He basically wanted people to post the Hulk, and then he would disallow every other feat, because it wasn't exactly what he wanted.

Then, he would turn around and crow that only Hulk had the feats. Like asking 'which top tier is the exact shade of green that I want to see?'

He is rather predictable.

CosmicComet
Also, assume the mass will hold together and not break apart.

The weight is the important thing here, i just needed something to illustrate said weight.

DarkSaint85
thumb up

Sticking with Geoforce, which as zop said, is surprising because he's not that strong.

CosmicComet
Does he use strength or geokinesis? Both? Dont know much about him.

CosmicComet
Does Thing have any high feats that come close to this?

Galan007
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Does he use strength or geokinesis? Both? Dont know much about him. The latter, mostly.

The feat was only preformed after Brion reached his full potential while fighting in his native land of Markovia(which is also his 'place of power'), and essentially became a gigantic earth elemental with tremendous power:
https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255734_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-012.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255735_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-013.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255736_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-014.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255737_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-015.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255738_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-016.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255739_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-017.jpg https://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/34255740_Outsiders_2007-2011_039-018.jpg


Don't get me wrong... I love Brion, and the feat is absolutely beastly(I've been posting it ever since the issue was originally released), but it doesn't seem like that kind of circumstantial power-up is necessarily in alignment with the spirit of this thread. /shrug

CosmicComet
Yeah, I was more thinking of pure strength when I made this thread.

spetznaz
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He basically wanted people to post the Hulk, and then he would disallow every other feat, because it wasn't exactly what he wanted.

Then, he would turn around and crow that only Hulk had the feats. Like asking 'which top tier is the exact shade of green that I want to see?'

He is rather predictable.

Exactly, which is unfortunate. There are certain posters who support certain characters as if they own shares in the companies that publish those characters. In my opinion, the scan you posted clearly showed that a certain spit-curled character being able to lift way in excess of a single rock in Australia. It more than met the criteria for the other question asked ...ability to lift standing and not by flying etc (I could say something about the 'flying' stipulation, but as I am sure the person making it making a loaded point and not being genuine, I will not waste my time).

Your post fully answered the question. Full stop.

As for the original question on the rock - there are several characters. Ranging from Superman (easily) to the Hulk (I'm sure someone will be happy). Those two are the easiest - there's a scan of the Hulk lifting a mountain (as I said, this whole thread is a loaded one ....), and DarkSaint's post shows Superman definitely can do the same (and easily since this riock is significantly smaller than the earth). There are others, but those would be more controversial to some (especially those who feel flying strength is different from 'standing' strength ...Im not one of those due to a more than basic understanding of leverage).

Prof. T.C McAbe
Aquaman.

carver9
I personally can't see Aquaman lifting that

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Aquaman.

Good choice.

Water is 800% denser than air. Here, you can see what happens when you fire an assault rifle underwater:
tzm_yyl13yo

Arthur threw a submarine from the bottom of the ocean to the surface, with enough energy to lift it clear out of the water:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4875977-2682657690-48759.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4875978-9309147291-48759.jpg

Throwing that 20,000 ton sub would be the equivalent of throwing 1.6million tons in air.

And throwing is much harder than lifting. Imagine lifting a 30kg weight...then imagine throwing it.

For those who say you are aided underwater by buoyancy, yes, to a point, but that sub had sunk and was lying on the ocean floor - IOW, no buoyancy.

AQ could do it.

spetznaz
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Aquaman.

That's one of the more controversial standing characters that could do it, and one of his high end feats back this. So ...yes. Even if maybe not straight up lifting it for a long time (ala Hulk or Superman), but he'd definitely move it off the ground even if not outright lift it.

Henry_Pym
Is this pure strength only? If so I'd go with Aquaman, didn't Wonderland struggle with a Pyramid?

There are human level characters who could do this with other abilities

StiltmanFTW
PYM! You're alive!

CosmicComet
Yes, this is pure strength.

spetznaz
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good choice.

Water is 800% denser than air. Here, you can see what happens when you fire an assault rifle underwater:
tzm_yyl13yo

Arthur threw a submarine from the bottom of the ocean to the surface, with enough energy to lift it clear out of the water:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4875977-2682657690-48759.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4875978-9309147291-48759.jpg

Throwing that 20,000 ton sub would be the equivalent of throwing 1.6million tons in air.

And throwing is much harder than lifting. Imagine lifting a 30kg weight...then imagine throwing it.

For those who say you are aided underwater by buoyancy, yes, to a point, but that sub had sunk and was lying on the ocean floor - IOW, no buoyancy.

AQ could do it.

There was that time where he lifted an entire city block. Not the same as a mountain, but definitely shows AM's strength is not as low as some believe.

CosmicComet
I'd like to see that feat.

Depending on the size of the block and how deep the crust he was holding, it might be comparable to the weight of Ayers Rock.

byrdgang21
Skaar??

celeyhyga17
Only top tiers can lift that shiet.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Aquaman.

This should have been the first answer.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Only top tiers can lift that shiet.

Yep and Aquaman isn't lifting it.

EcstaticGrace
Aquaman also stopped the force of Atlan's scepter. As well as covered an entire oceanic trench (which are at the bottom of the sea and he was pressing down on it meaning going against its position.)

Pre52
He resisted Polaris pull who was able to casually lift on Atlantis

As well as the city block feat..
Here's links.

City block with cars, buildings, etc on it as well as underwater.
http://m.imgur.com/o9z9gjn

Halting the force of Atlan's scepter
http://m.imgur.com/a/Opunl
Reference
http://m.imgur.com/a/pLBDV

The Cullen Bunn's Aquaman run shows how much area Pre-Sunk Atlantis took up.



Vs Polaris
http://m.imgur.com/DGJkFOy
http://m.imgur.com/m0bVcju

Aquaman's also done stuff like breakout of a grapple from Wonder Woman or restrain Hercules for 5 panels.

RealityWarper
Probably ShariForce Iron Fist as he has abilities he never displayed in the comics. XD

Mindship
Didn't Iron Man once lift a million-ton boulder?

TethAdamTheRock
^ He helped

and he also helped Hulk lift a 1 billion ton mountain iirc

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He basically wanted people to post the Hulk, and then he would disallow every other feat, because it wasn't exactly what he wanted.

Then, he would turn around and crow that only Hulk had the feats. Like asking 'which top tier is the exact shade of green that I want to see?'

He is rather predictable.




I doubt that's what Carver intended.

The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.

So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.



Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.

One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.

Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.

She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7



Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.


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Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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carver9
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I doubt that's what Carver intended.

The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.

So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.



Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.

One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.

Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.

She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7



Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.


https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397210_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397211_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397212_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397213_image.jpg



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Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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Exactly. Why would I want anyone to bring Hulk up as the weakest person to pull this off. It's border line ridiculous. Dark doesn't even think anymore.

Also, nice scans.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. Why would I want anyone to bring Hulk up as the weakest person to pull this off. It's border line ridiculous. Dark doesn't even think anymore.

Also, nice scans.
You can't discount many lifting w/flying feats however. I know you never said u were discounting them, but just sayin...

Btw any lifting feats w/flying doesn't seem to kosher to u?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I doubt that's what Carver intended.

The original poster (O.P.) of this thread asked for the WEAKEST character who could perform this feat, not the strongest. Nor did O.P. clarify, until many posts later, that he wanted pure physical strength, and not some alternate means.

So choices like Iron Man, and Doctor Doom, and Magneto and presumably Geo Force (I haven't proven able to examine your visuals yet, TurboImageHost and KMC etcetera have been giving problems to people today, hopefully they'll have largely cleared by the time I submit this message for posting; I'm going by what the name GeoForce implies) are/were perfectly valid.



Actually, I should be able to clear up a few issues here.

One, knowing nothing about the character except name, implied powers, and the fact that Black Adam killed her by punching straight through her body, I'd go with Terra being the weakest character who could have lifted Ayers Rock.
She was, to my current knowledge, just a teenage girl, physically.

Terra's coming to mind because, two, Wonder Woman is NOT the weakest character who could lift Ayers Rock, not even if we disqualify other methods.
Wonder Woman seems, in fact, to have been able to outperform members of the Shazam family, who are pretty remarkable lifters in their own right.

She did this in JLA/Titans #3, a comic released in 1999, catching a section of ... well, the Moon, apparently. I mentioned this in one of my own threads a few years back. You can find it on the KMC thread page this links to:


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563382&pagenumber=7



Point 3, counter to what many think, some comic writers DO make a distinction between pure lifting strength and lifting in the midst of flight. Or at least one famous comic writer did, and that would be John Byrne, who for a time established that being the case for Superman.


https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397210_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397211_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397212_image.jpg https://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/34397213_image.jpg



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Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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Reread his real question.

He asked for TOP tiers. Not weakest people. TOP. Who don't have flight.

In his mind, he can't think of any. Who have lifted similar,whilst standing.

Him, the Hulk expert. Perhaps he really couldn't remember a non flying TOP TIER character who has lifted similar.

DarkSaint85
Bluewater, maybe you got him confused with the OP...

Surtur
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Yes

Also Blue Marvel

Weakest is probably Wonder Woman

Her strength is far above lifting 4 million tons.

Surtur

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by Surtur
Her strength is far above lifting 4 million tons. The aquaman or Superboy Or Thing

Genii96
Aquaman

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