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Azog has earned the claim, "cinema's greatest Orc," so now he sets his sights on the wizard who fled from him multiple times in the Hobbit trilogy. Gandalf is not allowed to flee, run up a tree, or try to flee a delapidated castle. Azog is armored and has his blades in via the final film. Gandalf has his staff and sword. Who wins ?

Gandalf fought a Balrog and Ringwraiths. He shit-stomps Azog in a 1v1 where he doesn't have to worry about his friends.

Yes, you will not accept these facts as you're on your Azog high; I accept that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Gandalf fought a Balrog and Ringwraiths. He shit-stomps Azog in a 1v1 where he doesn't have to worry about his friends.

Yes, you will not accept these facts as you're on your Azog high; I accept that. I take it you're going to ignore the context here. Gandalf had the appropriate gear to take on the Balrog which doesn't apply to Azog or better suit him. The ring wraiths were exploited by the light from his staff which again wouldn't scare Azog off. One on one Azog knocked him on his ass. Gandalf then kept him at bay and quickly got the hell out of dodge.

I take it you didn't see a rather embarrassing moment of Gandalf's in a one on one confrontation in the films.

Azog wins. Gandalf is greatly overrated. You know it to be true.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Azog has earned the claim, "cinema's greatest Orc,"

You have an odd sense of humor.

Gandalf>/=Balrog>>>>>Azog

Anyone who says otherwise would believe fairies exist in their back garden

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Gandalf>/=Balrog>>>>>Azog

Anyone who says otherwise would believe fairies exist in their back garden Abc logic. Gandalf had the tools in that one situation with the right circumstances to slay and die. That has no bearing on a fight with Azog. Try watching the rest of the films and grasping the films. If he was as badass as you claim he wouldn't hide up trees, run from Azog, or struggle one on one with one troll.



If you want to debate the actual facts come back and get #rekt..

Originally posted by Robtard
Gandalf fought a Balrog and Ringwraiths. He shit-stomps Azog in a 1v1 where he doesn't have to worry about his friends.

Yes, you will not accept these facts as you're on your Azog high; I accept that.



Gandalf stomps...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder


Gandalf stomps... Quit being a fanboy. We see them interact in the films.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Images/image_zps4vdixkvv.jpeg

He's on his backside just as a ***** like yourself.

You calling someone else a fanboy? Seems every other week you have a new character you love and become a fanboy over. You go through them as quickly as Taylor Swift goes through boyfriends.

He said something completely contradictory to their meetings in the films. That's a fanboy. Evidence supports me as always.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He said something completely contradictory to their meetings in the films. That's a fanboy. Evidence supports me as always.

Yes people, he truly typed this out after arguing for pages and pages that Khan could defeat Yoda.

Khan would beat Yoda. That's off topic. You tend to do your schtick in every thread bring up something else and then act aloof. You're a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan would beat Yoda. That's off topic. You tend to do your schtick in every thread bring up something else and then act aloof. You're a loser.

If you're going to make fun of others for supposed fanboyism your well known history with fanboyism is pretty on topic I would say.

Pretty much everyone but you thinks this about you lol.

It's also obvious you made this thread thinking Azog would easily win.

Says the guy who everyone mocks for being a loser in real life. My opinions are well supported yours are incoherent rants. I haven't heard one well supported ar hunt for Gandalf that embraces the context.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy who everyone mocks for being a loser in real life. My opinions are well supported yours are incoherent rants. I haven't heard one well supported ar hunt for Gandalf that embraces the context.

I'll put that small handful of posters(who have had similar things said about them by others) against the large group of people that say stuff about you. What I'm saying is: you are a complete joke who seems to genuinely feel he is one of the best posters here. Your self awareness is so lacking you prop yourself up on a pedestal.

I'm shocked anyone even bothers to try to debate with you anymore lol. I've never even once seen you admit to being wrong, and you will sit back and claim it's because you never are lol. That is all that needs to be said.

If you truly love debating so much then perhaps an attitude change is in order, otherwise nobody will want to play with quanchi anymore. But don't worry I'm sure you'll just come back and zing me by calling me a loser.

The site is in its death throes. I've already acknowledged this but try to wake the kmc members awake who still come here. I only care about the evidence. I posted direct evidence in this thread that's a fact not this misconceived notion Gandalf stomps because Balrog. Facts matter not Gandalf apologists.

Azog wins.

Gandalf in a stomp. Oh and Yoda would curb Khan.

Originally posted by playa1258
Gandalf in a stomp. Oh and Yoda would curb Khan. Gandalf took off and got put on his ass. He didn't do shit to Zog while he mocked him save do the light thing to run and flee. Sauron caught the chump.

Khan decimates Yoda. He's dead anyways so who cares about the dead failure who was known as Yoda.

The Beast of Beasts Ork from Warhammer would shit on Azog.

Greatest Ork my ass.

Originally posted by playa1258
The Beast of Beasts Ork from Warhammer would shit on Azog.

Greatest Ork my ass. I said cinematic Orc. I've never played Warhammer so relax. You always get so upset and start naming off characters I have no interest in. Azog wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said cinematic Orc. I've never played Warhammer so relax. You always get so upset and start naming off characters I have no interest in. Azog wins.

If you love orcs so much why not play?

In Neverwinter Nights I once created an Orc Sorcerer. He would utterly obliterate Azog.

The Beast? The ork who was able to hold his own against Vulkan? Yeah he'd prolly steamroll every LOTR character at once (at least, as far as the movies go, anyways)

He even took a hammer blow from Vulkan. Azog would be ****ed.

Originally posted by Surtur
If you love orcs so much why not play?

In Neverwinter Nights I once created an Orc Sorcerer. He would utterly obliterate Azog. I don't care to play this game. I don't love orcs in general but Azog stands out, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care to play this game. I don't love orcs in general but Azog stands out, kiddo.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Broke every bone in his hand. You can continue to troll and make the threads all about your vagina bleeding over me.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
The Beast? The ork who was able to hold his own against Vulkan? Yeah he'd prolly steamroll every LOTR character at once (at least, as far as the movies go, anyways)

Originally posted by playa1258
He even took a hammer blow from Vulkan. Azog would be ****ed.

Any of the 6 "Prime-Orks" could probably just step on Azog.

I mean we don't see all of them, but we can probably assume that they were all in the same overall ballpark.

Butthurt is posters crying for non cinematic orcs just because they a re upset Azog has taken the crown over the Warcrafts elite.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Any of the 6 "Prime-Orks" could probably just step on Azog.

I mean we don't see all of them, but we can probably assume that they were all in the same overall ballpark. They could all kill Azog with a finger flick. The average Ork boy would curb Azog's ass.

Off topic nonsense makes Azog's win here even more apparent.

I got the impression that Azog was clearly beneath Gandalf in the small encounter that they had. He held Azog off with just his staff along with several of Azogs army, he was just trying to escape knowing that he'd be overwhelmed by the Orc army.

Originally posted by relentless1
I got the impression that Azog was clearly beneath Gandalf in the small encounter that they had. He held Azog off with just his staff along with several of Azogs army, he was just trying to escape knowing that he'd be overwhelmed by the Orc army. So Azog knocking him on his ass, mocking him, and Gandalf holding him at bay and fleeing is denoting superiority these days. You're a moron.

Originally posted by relentless1
I got the impression that Azog was clearly beneath Gandalf in the small encounter that they had. He held Azog off with just his staff along with several of Azogs army, he was just trying to escape knowing that he'd be overwhelmed by the Orc army.

Yeah, Azog managed to get one shot in when Gandalf wasn't expecting an orc to be flying out of nowhere and hitting him, the entire place was swarming with them (so, it was by no means a 1-on-1 scenario), and Gandalf's priority was locating Sauron, not getting bogged down in a fight with a large group of orcs. But as I pointed out in another thread, TrollChi completely ignores context when it doesn't suit his argument.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, Azog managed to get one shot in when Gandalf wasn't expecting an orc to be flying out of nowhere and hitting him, the entire place was swarming with them (so, it was by no means a 1-on-1 scenario), and Gandalf's priority was locating Sauron, not getting bogged down in a fight with a large group of orcs. But as I pointed out in another thread, TrollChi completely ignores context when it doesn't suit his argument. When Sauron was nowhere to be found at the end of the first film and he had how many companions what did Gandalf do ? He hid up a tree you despicable troll. He runs from orcs, goblins, trolls, etc. Don't make it out as if Gandalf doesn't flee when danger comes knocking at his doorstep.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care to play this game. I don't love orcs in general but Azog stands out, kiddo.

He does stand out, he looks stupid.

Anyways, how does it make you feel that my Orc Sorcerer could destroy Azog?

He looks awesome you dummy. I have not seen anything about your shitty noncinematic Orc. Get back to the topic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
. Get back to the topic.

Okay, I find it funny that nobody has voted for Azog.

Nobody but you seems to think he can win, why do you think that is?

People are close minded and just cheer for who they like more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said cinematic Orc.

This Orc (yes, from a film) with the 9mm would just bust a few caps in Azog's dome for the win though.

http://www.thydemonsbescribblin.com/uploads/2/9/2/8/29282825/9497360_orig.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
People are close minded and just cheer for who they like more.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vrAHo4xYuBs/UicubBzAozI/AAAAAAAAKyI/RRT1W6vG3rU/s320/irony-meter.jpg

Quan knows Gandalf would win, just like he knows the Cave Troll would pummel Azog in to dust.

Originally posted by golem370
Quan knows Gandalf would win, just like he knows the Cave Troll would pummel Azog in to dust. Azog would crush the cave troll and he already put Gandalf on his ass who later fled from him. Gandalf fled from him earlier in the previous film.

Ps. Surtur is only a troll these days.

Not that I think anyone really has doubts here, but this clip alone shows how ridiculously above Azog Gandalf is when he gets serious. Love this scene, one of my favorites.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na0B1vFM84Q

Skip to 04:01 for the heavy action to start.

04:33 and again at 04:38, The Balrog pummels Gandalf and he shrugs it off like the beast he is

04:45, Balrog grabs Gandalf and attempts to crush him

There's context to that scene that isn't available nor beneficial for Gandalf against Azog. He relies on those crystals or what not he puts into his staff. He's also highly resistant to fire. Did you miss the scene where in a one on one confrontation Gandalf looked downright abysmal and buffoonish. We don't ignore his portrayals and dismiss the context from the Balrog fight which does not apply to Azog. Nor does the Balrog possess the skill and battle savvy of Azog.

I'm aware of this fire resistance as I've noted several times in here what Gandalf was possibly referring to during his monologue against the Balrog in previous Gandalf threads.

Getting smashed twice and then crushed in a giant's grip has nothing to do with being fire resistant though, that durability translates into this fight. He also fought the balrog with his sword for days, without rest, his stamina is incredible. Gandalf is well above and beyond Azog (who is very formidable, especially for an Orc). You're just on an Azog high right now, so you'll argue endlessly against logic.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm aware of this fire resistance as I've noted several times in here what Gandalf was possibly referring to during his monologue against the Balrog in previous Gandalf threads.

Getting smashed twice and then crushed in a giant's grip has nothing to do with being fire resistant though. Neither does fighting the Balrog with his sword for days. Gandalf is well above and beyond Azog (who is very formidable for an Orc). Gandalf had the protection on the ring and needed the storm to finally slay and double ko himself due to the exhaustion. If Azog connects with Gandalf he's going to cut into his flesh. Azog has displayed more skill and the Balrog is a lot slower than Azog. There's nothing to suggest he's beyond Azog especially since we've seen the two interact with each other on screen.

Gandalf gets exaggerated for two things. One his feat against the Balrog. Secondly his feat against Aragorn and Legolas which doesn't erase the other displays of his fighting prowess throughout the films.

If Azog connects, sure, Gandalf would be cut, but he's incredibly durable still. "If" is the thing though, Gandalf could just TK Azog's orc ass over and over until he's beaten down and then move in for the mercy kill. Azog has absolutely no defense against Gandalf's TK, though imo, Gandalf wouldn't need TK, but it's the surest and safest way here.

What's Azog going to do against Gandalf's TK?

Couldn't Gandalf cause Azog's weapons to become red hot like he did to Aragorn and Gimli's weapons in Fangorn Forest in Two Towers? Also deflected one of Legolas' arrows whilst performing the abovementioned feat.

I liked Azog as a villain, and I don't think The Hobbit trilogy is dog turd, but Gandalf is leagues above him. The Balrog and Saruman fights display both physical capabilities and hax for Gandalf that Azog can't overcome or even counter to begin with.

EDIT: Yes, Gandalf lost to Saruman. Saruman was leagues beyond Azog and was Gandalf's superior in the wizard power department.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Couldn't Gandalf cause Azog's weapons to become red hot like he did to Aragorn and Gimli's weapons in Fangorn Forest in Two Towers? Also deflected one of Legolas' arrows whilst performing the abovementioned feat.

I liked Azog as a villain, and I don't think The Hobbit trilogy is dog turd, but Gandalf is leagues above him. The Balrog and Saruman fights display both physical capabilities and hax for Gandalf that Azog can't overcome or even counter to begin with.

That was Gandalf the White, a more powerful version, so we can't really transfer feats on over. He doesn't need it though, all he needs is his sword and his TK, which he has as the Grey.

Originally posted by Robtard
That was Gandalf the White, a more powerful version, so we can't really transfer feats on over. He doesn't need it though, all he needs is his sword and his TK, which he has as the Grey.

Ha, my bad Rob, read the description, forgot the title already clarified the version in battle here. But yes, Grey had TK and the superhuman battle vs the Balrog. That's more than enough here.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Ha, my bad Rob, read the description, forgot the title already clarified the version in battle here. But yes, Grey had TK and the superhuman battle vs the Balrog. That's more than enough here.


http://i.makeagif.com/save/ryAN4i

Originally posted by Robtard
If Azog connects, sure, Gandalf would be cut, but he's incredibly durable still. "If" is the thing though, Gandalf could just TK Azog's orc ass over and over until he's beaten down and then move in for the mercy kill. Azog has absolutely no defense against Gandalf's TK, though imo, Gandalf wouldn't need TK, but it's the surest and safest way here.

What's Azog going to do against Gandalf's TK? Gandalf only showed himself up to the task of barely tking him at bay without harming him whatsoever. We see him tk Saruman and he didn't really hurt the older, less muscled body.

Sooner or later Azog is going to pounce on him.

It won't get the win and then it's a matter of time. Gandalf didn't hurt him at all so it's a stretch.

Gandalf crushes Azog's liver into his mouth and then makes him eat it...

Gandalf 10/10 easily...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf only showed himself up to the task of barely tking him at bay without harming him whatsoever. We see him tk Saruman and he didn't really hurt the older, less muscled body.

Sooner or later Azog is going to pounce on him.

It won't get the win and then it's a matter of time. Gandalf didn't hurt him at all so it's a stretch.

Fist of all, Sarumon isn't some frail old man, despite looking that way; neither is Gandalf and Sarumon was hurt by the attacks, you hear him groaning. Second, Gandalf's TK can send squads of goblins flying, even knocking down and temporarily incapacitating the Goblin King who is very much larger and heavier than Azog.

http://i.makeagif.com/save/ryAN4i

Azog would be ass blasted by that attack, as Azog has absolutely no defense against TK. This thread is finished, at least in reality.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Gandalf crushes Azog's liver into his mouth and then makes him eat it...

Gandalf 10/10 easily... Based on ?

Originally posted by Robtard
Fist of all, Sarumon isn't some frail old man, despite looking that way; neither is Gandalf and Sarumon was hurt by the attacks, you hear him groaning. Second, Gandalf's TK can send squads of goblins flying, even knocking down and temporarily incapacitating the Goblin King who is very much larger and heavier than Azog.

http://i.makeagif.com/save/ryAN4i

Azog would be ass blasted by that attack, as Azog has absolutely no defense against TK. This thread is finished, at least in reality. Wormtail killed him with a knife stab. What did he do durability wise to show he's some uber badass ?

Knocked goblins off their feet. It didn't cause any significant damage by the force of the tk alone just as it didn't to Saruman. Just as it knocked the goblins down but didn't kill or seriously injure any of them it delays the inevitable. Azog kills him with his blade or mace. He might be warded off or knocked back but nothing to even seriously injure Azog. Azog kills him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

The facts.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The facts. Such as ? You confirm you're learning disabled every day in this forum. It's enjoyable to mock you. You're a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ? You confirm you're learning disabled every day in this forum. It's enjoyable to mock you. You're a loser.

That ghey troll you champion is the real loser...

Well, him and Thanos!

Gandalf the Grey Defiles Azog.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That ghey troll you champion is the real loser...

Well, him and Thanos!

Character defining moment in which he overcame the odds. He's the best and Azog wins this thread. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Gandalf the Grey Defiles Azog. Based on ?

Originally posted by Kazenji
Gandalf the Grey Defiles Azog.

Yep.

Quanchi has fled like the coward we all know him to be...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yep.

If you can't make a case then I accept your concession. Gandalf fled from Azog twice in the films. He loses.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Quanchi has fled like the coward we all know him to be... Unlike you I have a life. Nice to see you admit you wait for me, loser.