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-Waverider (pre-Flashpoint)-
http://i.imgur.com/tkLZeye.jpg


VS.


-Genis Vell (Insane)-
http://i.imgur.com/RfY9z4a.jpg



How goes this?

Nice fight.

Thanks.

Thoughts on the outcome?

Originally posted by Galan007
-Waverider (pre-Flashpoint)-
http://i.imgur.com/tkLZeye.jpg

How goes this?
Really Galan? How do you expect this to be a fair fight when you use this scan? Smh...

i can't figure this fight. genis is the more powerful of the 2 imo. not sure it's all that close. but does he have a defense against all the time-related shenanigans wr can throw at him? always tough beating someone who has such good control of time. so many ways for wr to f*** him up. it would all depend on genis' ability to counter getting tossed around in time, or maybe even killed before becoming genis....

I'd say Waverider because of all that time shit he can do, plus he's not that far off, power wise.

You, Galan?

Originally posted by leonidas
i can't figure this fight. genis is the more powerful of the 2 imo. not sure it's all that close. but does he have a defense against all the time-related shenanigans wr can throw at him? always tough beating someone who has such good control of time. so many ways for wr to f*** him up. it would all depend on genis' ability to counter getting tossed around in time, or maybe even killed before becoming genis....

Does it count as self-BFR if you go back in the future to kill someone's ancestors?

Personally, I don't think so.

I think the rules have always been that self-time travel is considered self-bfr on these boards. Don't think that's a written rule though.

Penis-Vell

Originally posted by spetznaz
Does it count as self-BFR if you go back in the future to kill someone's ancestors?

good question. like the others i'm not sure.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Does it count as self-BFR if you go back in the future to kill someone's ancestors? Not if you sashay all the way there.

Originally posted by leonidas
good question. like the others i'm not sure.

Unlike DS, he of the iron intellect.

Originally posted by Smurph
Not if you sashay all the way there.

Originally posted by Smurph
Not if you sashay all the way there.



Forum canon.

Originally posted by Smurph
Not if you sashay all the way there.


Don't see how Genis could defend against such refined grace.

Originally posted by leonidas
but does he have a defense against all the time-related shenanigans wr can throw at him? Zemo beat Photon by placing him in a perpetual time-loop(or something along those lines), so my first inclination was to say that Genis likely doesn't have a way to counter *all* of Waverider's temporal abilities.

However, Insane Genis' mindset essentially made him a different character entirely -- he did shit that none of his other versions came close to doing, after all. So with that in mind, I'm really not sure how he'd cope with Waverider(ergo this thread.)