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What and why?

Originally posted by golem370
What and why?

I say this a bit tongue in cheek, but Batman having a hollowed-out tooth that has a mini-gas canister in it is true dedication. Not the greatest of prep feats, but that man is dedicated (and crazier than MoonKnight ...one reason I don't like Bruce is he is worse than the Joker. He is literally mad. Even worse, he has killed hundreds if not thousands by capturing criminals so they can be jailed, knowing very well those criminals will escape and kill more. He has killed many indirectly, and if he was more like Frank Castle that wouldn't have been the case).

Anyway, Batman is one of the most flawed characters in comics, and if I existed in a comic I would strive to kill him (after killing Superman, the greatest monster, first).

But with that said, while not the greatest feat, that tooth thing shows proper thought. A gas canister as a tooth just in case you are bound and can't move. Genius.

Sounds like some Nazi cyanide crazyness.1.What does it do to help? and 2.How is it deployed?

Martian Manhunter, in JLA One Million. Had a plan to defeat Solaris over 800 Centuries...

Magik killing the elder gods. Going through the timeline..manipulating all of the x-men. Letting her teammates and herself get tortured just to wipe out the elder gods. Risking all of reality in the process.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Martian Manhunter, in JLA One Million. Had a plan to defeat Solaris over 800 Centuries... Did it work out though?

Originally posted by spetznaz
I would strive to kill him (after killing Superman, the greatest monster, first).

Wait what?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Wait what?

Absolutely. Batman is a more controlled version of a Joker-type psychopath (in many ways like Dexter from the serial-killer-turned-hunter-of-serial-killers TV show), while Superman is an alien being that looks like us and apes our behavior yet is not of us and has a concentration of power that is highly destabilizing. In the same way the Israelis took out the Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor, I would want Superman eradicated pre-emptively.

r

Originally posted by -Pr-
Wait what?

I understand and even agree to some extent with the frustration people feel when Supes and Bats and everybody else keep on putting the baddies in prison, when clearly they are just going to break out and kill people again. However, I hardly think it's fair to blame them and call them monsters because of that.

At least they are catching the bad guys.

Shouldn't taking care of this be the government's responsibility? Shouldn't the government be the ones who say hey, I think that's enough, let's make sure we take care of this problem, permanently, before he or she breaks out and kill another few thousand people again?

Why should Supes and Bats be the ones who executes the villains, when it's against their beliefs? Their jobs are to catch the bad guys. It's the government's job to make sure those bad guys never kill again.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Absolutely. Batman is a more controlled version of a Joker-type psychopath (in many ways like Dexter from the serial-killer-turned-hunter-of-serial-killers TV show), while Superman is an alien being that looks like us and apes our behavior yet is not of us and has a concentration of power that is highly destabilizing. In the same way the Israelis took out the Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor, I would want Superman eradicated pre-emptively.

r

Okay. Think I misread your first post completely. You think they are monsters and want to eliminate them simply because you feel they MIGHT be a threat?

Originally posted by spetznaz
Absolutely. Batman is a more controlled version of a Joker-type psychopath (in many ways like Dexter from the serial-killer-turned-hunter-of-serial-killers TV show), while Superman is an alien being that looks like us and apes our behavior yet is not of us and has a concentration of power that is highly destabilizing. In the same way the Israelis took out the Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor, I would want Superman eradicated pre-emptively.

r

You should have taken Batfleck's place in BvS.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I understand and even agree to some extent with the frustration people feel when Supes and Bats and everybody else keep on putting the baddies in prison, when clearly they are just going to break out and kill people again. However, I hardly think it's fair to blame them and call them monsters because of that.

At least they are catching the bad guys.

Shouldn't taking care of this be the government's responsibility? Shouldn't the government be the ones who say hey, I think that's enough, let's make sure we take care of this problem, permanently, before he or she breaks out and kill another few thousand people again?

Why should Supes and Bats be the ones who executes the villains, when it's against their beliefs? Their jobs are to catch the bad guys. It's the government's job to make sure those bad guys never kill again.

Yeah, Superman is explicit at times about how he doesn't feel he has the right to be judge, jury and executioner. We've seen in enough alternate universes what happens when he does.

Bishop in Messiah War wiping out most of humanity in the future with poison gas and other WMD just to corner cable as he Time jumps with hope. Cable in X initiative owning the Avengers.

Doom. Rabum Alal.

Lucifer. The Plan.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Did it work out though?

It did indeed

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Okay. Think I misread your first post completely. You think they are monsters and want to eliminate them simply because you feel they MIGHT be a threat?

Absolutely!

In the real world, if such an entity (he'd be a thing not a human) existed, you take it out preemptively. Simply based on what it MIGHT do.

In my occupation in private equity, we have occassionally bought out a company preemptively and added it as a platform to an existing investee company in order to take out potential competition that may lower the valuation of a future liquidity event.

Sometimes you have to make decisions based on what MIGHT happen.

It reminds me of something Pervaz Musharraf, the former despot ruler of Pakistan, said. And I'm not quoting exactly, but it's something along the lines that when ranking your enemies, you do not consider whether they are friends or foes but rather on their capabilities. A country that is your ally but has huge military capability is more of a dangerous threat than a country that is your enemy but has weak military capability? Why? Simply because a weak country is a weak country, but a strong friend may one day change their perspective and become an enemy. Thus in considering threats, consider strength and not whether they are friends or not.

Superman has too much concentrated strength, and the fact he is so 'nice' actually would make me strike at him before I did someone like the Hulk (who's an obvious raging idiot, and thus easier to actually handle).

And you know what's funny ...most powerful nationstates think the same (ask Saddam about his WMDs, or Vietnam about the Gulf of Tolkin incident ....or for that matter many African and Latin American leaders from the 60s and 70s who had the spirit to try and make their countries a better place but in the process went against the interests of the West and/or the Soviets). Many companies do the same thing.

If you're in a fair fight you messed up, and things (things) like Superman, if they existed, should be destroyed. With extreme prejudice. He would simply be too destabilizing for the real world.

Like it was said in the Avengers, Shield started using the tesseract to detour powerful villlains but it also made earth a target to different & more powerful foes.

Iron Man movie Stark made the suit to stop his weapons getting into the wrong hands yet it made the bad guys grave an armored man for there selves.

Originally posted by Galan007
Doom. Rabum Alal.
Wasn't that Owen's feat, mostly? Besides, it relied on PIS: the Beyonders were given a convenient weakness (time-linearity) which they/he never had had before.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Absolutely!

In the real world, if such an entity (he'd be a thing not a human) existed, you take it out preemptively. Simply based on what it MIGHT do.


This is the issue, right here.

It's a thing. Not a person.

John Constantine tricking four demon gods. Tommy Monaghan humiliating lobo.

Originally posted by spetznaz
In my occupation in private equity...

Ah. Say no more. I now understand why you think the way you think. Of course you see him as a threat.

Originally posted by deathslash
Tommy Monaghan humiliating lobo.

That was hilarious, but it wasn't exactly prep. It was more make it up as you go along.

Didn't John Constantine trick the Presence (God) himself? That has to be way up there.