Nekron vs Chaos King vs Destiny of The Endless

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Urban Ninja
Who wins

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Destiny, no contest.

Galan007
Destiny's role/status is certainly > in scope than anything Nekron and CK displayed, that's for sure.

Problem is, he wouldn't attempt to fight either one of them in an actual comic. He does NOT interfere with 'the plan' to such extremes. /shrug

Astner

Galan007
He serves a conceptual purpose. Nothing more; nothing less. Unfortunately, his conceptual purpose also prevents him from directly interfering/acting 99% of the time.

He does not have feats to suggest he can outright destroy Nekron or CK, but they certainly do not have feats to suggest they can harm/destroy him either. /shrug

AlmightyKfish
Destiny is a super weird one as it's been implied that he's the most powerful Endless and he's essentially omniscient, but he can't act unless it's already determined he will.

Which I guess technically is true of everyone in the Vertigoverse up until Elaine takes over, but Destiny is more vocal about his non-action at least.

To Destiny's credit, he's pretty much the only being other than Yahweh who wasn't at all scared of Lucifer- although arguably because he knows everything and knew Lucifer wouldn't destroy him. He also erased the first Necropolis from existence with no effort but that doesn't really mean much.

Idk, Destiny is a weird one- the epitome of the Endless' problem of implied power plus even more passive due to how central the concept of predestination (aka himself) is to the Vertigoverse.

zopzop
No ones winning this fight. Nekron and CK are basically the same person and Destiny wouldn't even bother to fight (they probably couldn't kill him anyway).

TethAdamTheRock
Chaos King

TheManWhoLaughs
Destiny stomps . He exists beyond the totality of source wall inside his own realm which weaves all of existence . What makes his feat more impressive is the fact that source wall lies beyond all measures of space and all the infinite higher dimensions . Refer to fourth world jack kirby storyline by john bryne
4th world alone dwarfs all the physical universes in size . Destiny exists beyond that as well . He rapes this matchup

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XiCKagrqq2k/VkIOS7QXrAI/AAAAAAAAPD8/iR7ke1oDoxk/s0-Ic42/016.jpg

TheManWhoLaughs
http://i.imgur.com/gnauB1R.png

Book of souls contains every event from the beginning of time which is given by his Father time after creating him .

Urban Ninja
Originally posted by TheManWhoLaughs
Destiny stomps . He exists beyond the totality of source wall inside his own realm which weaves all of existence . What makes his feat more impressive is the fact that source wall lies beyond all measures of space and all the infinite higher dimensions . Refer to fourth world jack kirby storyline by john bryne
4th world alone dwarfs all the physical universes in size . Destiny exists beyond that as well . He rapes this matchup

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XiCKagrqq2k/VkIOS7QXrAI/AAAAAAAAPD8/iR7ke1oDoxk/s0-Ic42/016.jpg
Is He above Mxyptlk?

TethAdamTheRock
Both Nekron & Chaos King Have no Souls

TheManWhoLaughs
Originally posted by Urban Ninja
Is He above Mxyptlk?

Quite easily . Unless if you are including WF storyline

Galan007
Originally posted by Urban Ninja
Is He above Mxyptlk? No. Not even close.

Simply put, Destiny oversees everything within Morrison's Multiverse -- the 5th Dimension resides outside Morrison's Multiverse entirely.

TheManWhoLaughs
There is nothing beyond the totality of source wall which is described as the wall that spawned before the beginning of time all the dimensions and beyond all measures of space and time lies the source .

Bleedspace is the 5th dimension occupied by imps . The heck even captain adam appeared in 8th dimension in morrisons comosmology . So I don't think mxy exists beyond morrisons cosmology .

Even fodder new gods can comprehend the nature of 6th dimensional space while travelling and they were still within the source wall

" A nature enough reaction ,your three dimensional mind cannot begin to encompass the 6th dimensional space which we "travel and they

http://imgur.com/qhtXgAR

" metron reached up to 28 known dimensions after through the time travel "


http://imgur.com/87yolR0

http://imgur.com/mlkOnkU

. Metron also remarks on how his chair has the ability to travel through all the uncounted dimensions in creation .

http://imgur.com/ASdupB0


" And The Source wall is depicted as beyond time beyond space an extra dimensional realm which is nowhere and everywhere . Here the great wall has stood before the beginning of time . A structure which spawned all the known and unknown dimensions and served to protect that which is the end of all things " , " The Source "

http://imgur.com/h65MWhb

" Beyond any known measures of time and space lies the wall spawning all the dimensions it spreads an infinite barrier between all that lies without and the unguessable secrets thats lie within . The Secrets of The Source "

http://i.imgur.com/KZapHGa.jpg

Takion meets the source in the void beyond all time and space

http://imgur.com/Zmzxia9

http://imgur.com/csf5SlA

http://i.imgur.com/KZapHGa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AJKleq1.jpg

http://imgur.com/PRHVz5N

http://imgur.com/Wcfj0Bw

http://imgur.com/SOWGoDy

In of the morrison storyline itself a 5D imp quisp was imprisoned in "1 million infinities in an 8-dimensional maze" .

Destiny book contains all events from the beginning of time from the void given by his father who is the embodiment of all time .

Ir's ridiculous to wank mxy beyond morrisons or entire DC cosmology .

backup
But the Fifth Dimension exists outside the multiverse:

http://imgur.com/a/ZeNar

And Mxy and 5D beings are beasts.

Galan007
Originally posted by TheManWhoLaughs
There is nothing beyond the totality of source wall Except the 5th dimension. smile

Mr Master
Originally posted by backup
But the Fifth Dimension exists outside the multiverse:

http://imgur.com/a/ZeNar

And Mxy and 5D beings are beasts.
Wut the hell is going on in that scan?

Why is Mxy being treated like that, and what is he so afraid of?

@Galan, how does Morrison portray Mxy? (if not just him, the 5th-D itself)

SquallX
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wut the hell is going on in that scan?

Why is Mxy being treated like that, and what is he so afraid of?

@Galan, how does Morrison portray Mxy? (if not just him, the 5th-D itself)

That was a stupid story written by an idiotic writer that had no concept of anything 5D related.

First he had Superman-Prime kidnapped Mxy by punching though the 5th dimension.

Second, he had Annataz depowered Mxy. The writer treated Mxy powers has magic, when it's been said multiple times that the 5D Imps powers are science based, it's the 3D verse that thinks it's magic.

Overall it was a mess of a storyline.

Mr Master
Originally posted by SquallX

That was a stupid story written by an idiotic writer that had no concept of anything 5D related.
Well, I wouldn't go that far on the ol' boy, ... he knew it was located outside the multiverse.

Which is right in line with Morrison's cemented establishments.
Originally posted by SquallX

First he had Superman-Prime kidnapped Mxy by punching though the 5th dimension.

Second, he had Annataz depowered Mxy. The writer treated Mxy powers has magic,
when it's been said multiple times that the 5D Imps powers are science based, it's the 3D verse that thinks it's magic.

Overall it was a mess of a storyline.
That may be, but it still happened, to the one and only Mxy.
I'd love to use your logic on every Marvel cosmic writer wtf, but we can't.

That writer just added two individuals to Mxy's history that can defeat him.
btw. believe me I feel your pain. For so much of this has been happening to my Marvel cosmics lately.

Now, what I'm interested is in, Mxy's appearances/showings after the Prime & Annataz incident.

Galan007
Indeed the feat still occurred. Given the rest of Mxy's history, however, it is still a MASSIVE outlier that no one with half a brain would seriously consider when discussing Mxy.

What part of Mxy's 'post-Prime' showings are you interested in? You looking for feats or somesuch? If so, he created a structure that housed infinite universes/timelines in the Superman comic released last week. smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Scans? smile

TheManWhoLaughs
Originally posted by Galan007
Except the 5th dimension. smile

Are you implying that 5th dimension is beyond infinite dimensions ?

TheManWhoLaughs
Originally posted by backup
But the Fifth Dimension exists outside the multiverse:

http://imgur.com/a/ZeNar

And Mxy and 5D beings are beasts.

They were only referring to physical multiverse which is not the same the entire Multiverse or universe structure which consists of infinite dimensional heiarchy just like they usually refer to 4th world . Not saying mxy is weak because he is 5D but in your case they weren't referring to mxy existing beyond infinite dimensions .

In DC dimensions are weird and different similar to Dark tower cosmology . 3D brane universes are the size of bubbles in 4th world .

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t16yM7dzFrs/Vpc4vTxQHdI/AAAAAAACVYA/P1ptgKf3nU8/w554-h522-p-rw/s9SAVgh.jpg

Realm of now is a realm adjacent to 5th dimension where each moment spans infinity and Eternity .


http://imgur.com/gSzWbMY

http://imgur.com/YaJP0I5

in 6th dimension regular universes are the size of paper .

http://i.imgur.com/dnvSfdq.jpg

Heaven dwarfs the physical universes in size . Even weaker gods like odin can create and held the universes in the hand .

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/8/8c/Odin_Feat_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160920200707

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/square_medium/2/28079/1105016-kane_milohai__02__001__01_.png


DC cosmology is somewhat reminds of Dark tower which is shown in lucifer that he comprehend the very nature of void that exists beyond all the infinite layers of space and time or infinite dimensions

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/5/5f/Beyond_Time.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161001232411

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/2rUhP6lfGy1_xjeRuMWJ-nx2lJmCiGs8Py6CMInCqdSK4a9-2r_5TiCeqTKdimSE1wiq8f3O8Wq9=s0

And endless who are existence themselves are referred as wave functions ( which create hilbert spaces ) .

In DC each dimension is vastly bigger then the other . Its not the same as other Multiverse size from other fictions .

Destiny exists beyond the source wall inside his own realm that weaves all of existence . The book of souls contains all the events from the beginning of his father time itself . Night and time are first concepts in the existence spawned from the void with the energy released by michael and lucifer . They predate all versions of creations and destiny holds the book which backgrounds all of existence . They are not some mere extradimensional beings that destroys physical universes . Every action they take may warp reality from the beginning of time as we seen with dream and desire when they warped the reality controlling the fates of dreams of thousand people it changed everything from the beginning of time .

Galan007
Originally posted by TheManWhoLaughs
Are you implying that 5th dimension is beyond infinite dimensions ? Like I said: it is beyond Morrison's Multiverse. According to Morrison himself, the 5th dimension is literally pure imagination... There is simply no way to 'Map' the concept of imagination on a 2-D plane(which is why Morrison didn't even try to do so on his map of creation.)

The slew of irrelevant scans you always seem to post doesn't change that. smile

TheManWhoLaughs
Originally posted by Galan007
Like I said: it is beyond Morrison's Multiverse. According to Morrison himself, the 5th dimension is literally pure imagination... There is simply no way to 'Map' the concept of imagination on a 2-D plane(which is why Morrison didn't even try to do so on his map of creation.)

The slew of irrelevant scans you always seem to post doesn't change that. smile

Morrison writes the bleed space as 5th dimension occupied by the imps and monitor sphere as the highest dimension in his cosmology and my scans aren't irrelevant . Just because he didn't map the 5th dimension doesn't mean that they exist beyond his Multiverse .

Galan007
The 5th dimension isn't depicted on Morrison's Map, bud. No amount of baseless dot-connecting can change this. smile

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