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OWAW Superman (not holding back, but also unamped) runs the following gauntlet of the Elders of the Universe...

All Elders perform at their highest showing (for example, this is Champ before all the massive jobbing; back when he was a wrecking machine)...

No Infinity Gems for any of the Elders...

All fights are to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

OWAW Superman is allowed no rest or recovery time inbetween rounds; as soon as one round ends, the next begins immediately...

How far does OWAW Superman get?


1) Champion...
2) Collector...
3) Runner...
4) Grandmaster...
5) Ego...

Non-jobing Champion stops him cold.

grandmaster could definitely be a problem....

He'd beat the Champion, probably beat the Collector, he beats the Runner by feats but honestly the Runner doesn't have enough functional appearances to get a good read on him, a non jobbing Grandmaster SHOULD win but he's not always written that spectacularly, Ego SHOULD dominate but he's written even more inconsistently than Grandmaster(higher highs and more potential, but more frequent disappointments).

Originally posted by darthgoober
He'd beat the Champion, probably beat the Collector, he beats the Runner by feats but honestly the Runner doesn't have enough functional appearances to get a good read on him, a non jobbing Grandmaster SHOULD win but he's not always written that spectacularly, Ego SHOULD dominate but he's written even more inconsistently than Grandmaster(higher highs and more potential, but more frequent disappointments).

The Elders all perform at there highest showing in this thread...

Btw, you really think OWAW Supes would get that far without any rest or recovery time inbetween rounds?

Originally posted by JBL
Non-jobing Champion stops him cold.
Yup. Key word being "non-jobbing".

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The Elders all perform at there highest showing in this thread...

Btw, you really think OWAW Supes would get that far without any rest or recovery time inbetween rounds?
Oh I wasn't speaking to how far he'd get, just how he matches up individually. But I do see him getting past Champion without too much difficulty(though that may change depending on how Marvel handles him in the current Thanos series) and the "true form" Collector with some difficulty. It's the Runner that really makes things tough as far as debating a stance goes. He's got 1 solid combat showing to his credit and while beating Surfer is impressive, did he do that well because he was just that powerful or did Surfer's battles with the other Elders take a toll on him(the way Champion suggested) combine with Runner's likeable aura give him an easy win? And in regards to his aura, would it reduce Supes's combat effectiveness because of the change to his mindset, or would Supes's power and ultra focused mindset be beyond the aura's ability to affect at all? There's honestly just no way to accurately gauge the Runner at this point. He's one of those characters with a whole lot of potential, but he just hasn't been fleshed out enough to debate for properly.

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