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Since I've been MIA and people have had time to consider the ground realities of KOTET, I was curious where everyone stood as of now.

Which character is more powerful, which is more successful, and which do you personally prefer?

Sidious slaughter stomps.

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Valkorion is outclassed in every single aspect there is to compare.

Accolades: Being stated as the most powerful Sith Lord and dark side user time and time again >>> anything Valkorion has

Telekinesis: Ragdolling a 19 km Super Star Destroyer >>> anything Valkorion has done

Force Lightning: Bending lightsaber blades, damaging lightsaber-resistant objects, using Lightning across galaxy-wide distances >>> anything Valkorion has done

Telepathy: Casually dominating 20 billion people from across the galaxy, casually maintaining galaxy-wide Battle Meditation >>> anything Valkorion has done

Force Drain: Casually draining 20 billion people from across the galaxy >>> anything Valkorion has done

Force Storm: Ripping off the surfaces of planets, being capable of annihilating moons >>> anything Valkorion has done

Cosmic accomplishments: Turning the galaxy into a dark side nexus with your mere presence, clouding both sides of the Force, creating galaxy-wide shockwaves with a fraction of your power >>> anything Valkorion has done

Sith Alchemy and Sorcery: Creating rituals that caused galaxy-wide ripples in the Force, learning and studying canonically the greatest facets of Sith Alchemy and Sorcery >>> anything Valkorion has done

Force Knowledge: Gathering Force-related works from over a million worlds, studying all aspects of the Force including the Jedi's and other obscure Force cults, knowing canonically the greatest dark side lore, studying the dark side in greater depth than anyone else before him, knowing dark side abilities previously unknown to anyone else in history >>> anything Valkorion knows

Success: Conquering the galaxy >>> failing to do so

Impact on pop culture: Being considered among the greatest villains in cinematic history >>> being known only among the hardcore geeks and nerds

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Originally posted by Azronger
Ragdolling a 19 km Super Star Destroyer
lmfaowtf

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
lmfaowtf

We know he telekinetically buried the Lusankya, and we also know he did this with a fraction of his power, as at the same time, he was clouding the minds of about one trillion people, dominating and draining the 20 billion populace of Byss, and providing Battle Meditation to tens of trillions of Imperial troops all over the galaxy.

If he is focusing purely on TK, and on nothing elss like he was with the ship's burial, he could toss those SSD's like tennis balls.

Valk in all

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Valk in all

fite me bro

All you really need are the various statements saying that Sidious is the most powerful dark side user ever. That alone puts him above Valkorion. Sidious would basically just inherit, in a way, any of Valkorion's feats that happen to be superior.

Palpatine in all, but only slightly in the first.

TCW Sidious > Valkoriate.

Originally posted by Geistalt
TPM Sidious > Valkoriate. Yup.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Palpatine in all, but only slightly in the first.

The Senate stomps.

M.A.D.

To be fair you could argue for vitiate success wise given he was able to live for millennia with delaying death arguably being the main objective of the sith

It's not really delaying death so much as escaping it entirely, and both failed in that regard.

Interesting; not looking good for Valky.

Scores of members here have descended to trolling and jokes. You won't find a consensus here.

There aren't even "scores of members" left in this hellhole.

Indeed, Palpatine triumphs in every category. Valkorion is comparable in power, though, especially once he's exempted from Sith quotes that bind him to being inferior to Plagueis/TPM Palpatine.

But have you considered in your calculus Valkorion's ability to induce visual cinematic filters in cutscenes that make it appear as though stars change color?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Indeed, Palpatine triumphs in every category. Valkorion is comparable in power, though, especially once he's exempted from Sith quotes that bind him to being inferior to Plagueis/TPM Palpatine.

Even if you do that, he's still only sub-Plagueis.

Azr, please respond:

Originally posted by The_Tempest
But have you considered in your calculus Valkorion's ability to induce visual cinematic filters in cutscenes that make it appear as though stars change color?

Palpatine's Force filter powers are canonically better. Valkorion takes another L.

Valkorion

Originally posted by Azronger

Accolades: Being stated as the most powerful Sith Lord and dark side user time and time again >>> anything Valkorion has



"> The Father" > "> The Son"

Can anyone confirm that all the things Az posted in the first page about Sheev are absolutely true?

Originally posted by Sinious
"> The Father" > "> The Son"



Nah. They have these:



-Encyclopedia: Son

https://mobile.twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/352618406517809153

Originally posted by Petrus
Can anyone confirm that all the things Az posted in the first page about Sheev are absolutely true?

I can

Say what you want to know and I'll provide the source.

Originally posted by Petrus
Can anyone confirm that all the things Az posted in the first page about Sheev are absolutely true? http://68.media.tumblr.com/1dfb2019f14220ec77fdc4241dbffca6/tumblr_inline_o2qs81mBpa1s49fbc_540.gif

The Ones aren't mere Force-users. They are the Force personified.

Ehh, not really.

Originally posted by Petrus
Can anyone confirm that all the things Az posted in the first page about Sheev are absolutely true?

They aren't.

Yes they are.

Originally posted by Azronger
I can

Say what you want to know and I'll provide the source.

I'd like the sources for the 'Telekinesis', 'Force Drain', 'Cosmic accomplishments' and 'Force Storms', please.