The Ultimate Palpatine Essay
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cs_zoltan
For an ultimate essay I expected something longer.
cs_zoltan
inb4 that's what she said.
Beniboybling
This would be better suited to ComicVine.
DarthAnt66
Decent, but a lot of the arguments are stretching beyond belief.
The introduction post was great though.
|King Joker|
How long did it take for you to write this
Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Decent, but a lot of the arguments are stretching beyond belief.
The introduction post was great though.
I am aware that some arguments aren't that solid; I noted this myself when making this. However, in my mind, the overall message of this essay is more important than nitpicking it to death, which is why I didn't spend that much time elaborating on each individual point.
And thanks.
Azronger
Originally posted by |King Joker|
How long did it take for you to write this
Didn't measure the time, but I'd say roughly thirty hours over the span of two weeks.
FreshestSlice
Was it worth it? All those hours you'll never get back. Was it really worth it?
quanchi112
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Was it worth it? All those hours you'll never get back. Was it really worth it? He has a real passion in Star Wars you obviously don't with your will you get those hours back nonsense. No wonder you don't debate you don't actually care about Star Wars. Why even come here ?
Beniboybling
Fresh has little to live for these days yeah, don't let his nihilistic attitude dampen your achievement Az.
Azronger
Don't worry, I am not bothered by the thoughts of insects
|King Joker|
Az quick off topic question but what's your zodiac sign
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Decent, but a lot of the arguments are stretching beyond belief.
The introduction post was great though.
Disrespectful to call this the "Ultimate Palpatine Essay" though. There's only one of those.
Petrus
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Disrespectful to call this the "Ultimate Palpatine Essay" though. There's only one of those.
Which one?
NewGuy01
Gideon made a similar one some time back.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Gideon's is the Ultimate Palpatine Essay.
samappo
Well written, a little overboard and ambiguous in some of the conclusions though, but overall good job! Definitely gave me a little more insight into his powers, since I've yet to buy Dark Empire.
Selenial
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Decent, but a lot of the arguments are stretching beyond belief.
The introduction post was great though.
That's a little rich <3
Trocity
https://i.imgflip.com/nr0sx.jpg
Beniboybling
Brilliant work Az, good to see that even Palpatine's adepts have accomplished Valkorion's best feat of alchemy.
Azronger
A big thank you to you all
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Az quick off topic question but what's your zodiac sign
Scorpio. Why do you ask?
|King Joker|
Wow, me too.
Just curious, I ask most people.
S_W_LeGenD
I noticed a lot of overreaching, misconceptions and silly observations there. You get an A for effort but D for the assessment.
If you investing so much time and effort in this kind of work, make sure that you get things right.
S W LeGenD
OK that came across way harsher than I thought it was going to, please accept my apologies Azronger.
Azronger
Originally posted by S W LeGenD
OK that came across way harsher than I thought it was going to, please accept my apologies Azronger.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPwA8hitoY
Azronger
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I noticed a lot of overreaching, misconceptions and silly observations there. You get an A for effort but D for the assessment.
If you investing so much time and effort in this kind of work, make sure that you get things right.
I'd honestly pay to see your attempt at deconstructing this, lol.
S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Azronger
I'd honestly pay to see your attempt at deconstructing this, lol.
I will reach the higher ground.
Expect a response soon.
Azronger
Oh dear.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Wow, me too.
Just curious, I ask most people.
not me
; (
|King Joker|
Originally posted by Ursumeles
not me
; (
what r u
|King Joker|
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I will reach the higher ground.
Expect a response soon. https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111221826/5047018-7403673935-giphy.gif
Beniboybling
Originally posted by |King Joker|
what r u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJBlXyaGdjw&t=0m33s
Azronger
How long will your response take, Legend?
samappo
Patience young one....
Nah there isn't a response. Just like how he got pwned by Gideon and didn't respond.
SunRazer
Too much to read, let alone find the stuff that I should add to my RT's. I won't be around long enough to do that anyway.
Anyways, best wishes in your battle against those that seek to defile the Emperor's name.
cs_zoltan
Originally posted by SunRazer
I won't be around long enough to do that anyway.
Are you dying?
SunRazer
My time on the forums is, yes.
jackisbacklol
Shit essay, honestly.
MythLord
Nova is leaving? Shame... damn shame.
DarthAnt66
Originally posted by SunRazer
Too much to read, let alone find the stuff that I should add to my RT's. I won't be around long enough to do that anyway.
Anyways, best wishes in your battle against those that seek to defile the Emperor's name.
This made me a lot sadder than it should of have.
Azronger
He's not going away. He just says that, but then he eventually returns.
cs_zoltan
But what if he changes his password to a random string?
Azronger
He then creates a new account.
I bet you that all this talk of leaving is just him taking a few-month break at best.
SunRazer
Originally posted by Azronger
He's not going away. He just says that, but then he eventually returns.
I can see why you'd think that based on my history of absences and returns, but as I press into the uncharted territory of my life I will have to make some sacrifices.
I'll still be around for a bit, though. And like Silver, I might pop my head in from time to time. Definitely don't expect anything more than that, though.
Azronger
Alright, well, it was nice knowing you. I wish you the best of luck in whatever endeavours life has in store for you
Geistalt
Damnit; I was going to post on one of these pages that I'm most impressed by all of this.
Kept missing out on the opportunity. So much for that.
Geistalt
Also, as for
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leland_Chee#Discrepancies_explained_by_Chee
Azronger
Do you have a better source than Wookieepedia for that?
Geistalt
Yeah; here.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080503185906/http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=101353&highlight=
The Merchant
The dimension altering one was a bit out there. The way I interpreted is simply him making holes through the dimension of space, not literally altering whole dimensions.
As for the "all of space"comment, could that just have been the area where the space battle was taking place?
Azronger
Originally posted by Geistalt
Yeah; here.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080503185906/http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=101353&highlight=
Ah, fair enough then.
Azronger
Originally posted by The Merchant
The dimension altering one was a bit out there. The way I interpreted is simply him making holes through the dimension of space, not literally altering whole dimensions.
That's one way to interpret it I guess.
If there was any additional text which would limit it to all of local space, yes, but there isn't, so no.
S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Azronger
How long will your response take, Legend?
3 - 5 days.
I have busy schedule.
It won't be an argument for the sake of argument. I will address errors and misinterpretations in your essay and highlight showings that Palpatine has not replicated and/or areas where he is not at par. If Palpatine has legitimate superiority in an area, it will be acknowledged.
samappo
While I agree there are errors and misinterpretations in the essay, I hardly think that Valkorian/Vitiate has showings on Palpatine's level on a consistent basis.
Freedon Nadd
10 for effort. But overall, yes, it is a low-quality essay. You take everything 'literally' and you do not take into account the context of novels, sources, etc
You're gonna have to improve it.
Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by samappo
While I agree there are errors and misinterpretations in the essay, I hardly think that Valkorian/Vitiate has showings on Palpatine's level on a consistent basis.
Valkorion's/Vitiate's showings are based on quality, not quantity. Same for most EU characters(TOR era, etc)
samappo
That doesn't change the fact that Valkorion cannot match Sidious.
Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by samappo
That doesn't change the fact that Valkorion cannot match Sidious.
Mind-bending 8000 Sith Lords and a whole planet(Ziost) including trained Force sensitives isn't as impressive as Sidious mind-bending billions of non-sensitives(with no defence)
Revan re-deflecting Nyriss' ashing Force lightning(a Force sensitive) isn't as impressive as Sidious turning to charred husks non-sensitive or those three Dark Side Prophets(who were taken by surprise)
Lifting dead spaceships by sheer power isn't as impressive as Sidious ripping Senate pods apart
Vitiate one-shotting Darth Marr isn't as impressive as Sidious one-shotting strompoopers
Exar Kun(weak version) turning Gantoris into charred husk/or ash and messing with Luke's Jedi Praexum isn't as impressive as Palpatine blade-bending Windu's lightsabre
Exar's Force scream isn't as impressive as Sheev's autistic scream
I could go on like this day and day...
Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by The Merchant
The dimension altering one was a bit out there. The way I interpreted is simply him making holes through the dimension of space, not literally altering whole dimensions.
As for the "all of space"comment, could that just have been the area where the space battle was taking place?
Azronger has to try harder to prove that Sidious>Vitiate
Azronger
Against arguments like that, no I don't.
YousufKhan1212
I agree with Palpatine being above all other Sith and Valkorian. As for this ultimate essay, I'll probably give it an A* for effort, but a C+/B- for assessment. My main problem is that dragged on for so long, there's too much to read and Palpatine's advantages over Viagara is overemphasised and you've made it sound even more one sided than they're already are.
S_W_LeGenD
I will dissect this essay in this week hopefully.
Azronger
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
I agree with Palpatine being above all other Sith and Valkorian. As for this ultimate essay, I'll probably give it an A* for effort, but a C+/B- for assessment. My main problem is that dragged on for so long, there's too much to read and Palpatine's advantages over Viagara is overemphasised and you've made it sound even more one sided than they're already are.
Not sure how it being "too long" is a valid criticism, tbh. It's purpose was to be an in-depth analysis and that is apprent from the title itself.
Azronger
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I will dissect this essay in this week hopefully.
Looking forward to it
YousufKhan1212
Originally posted by Azronger
Not sure how it being "too long" is a valid criticism, tbh. It's purpose was to be an in-depth analysis and that is apprent from the title itself.
It wasn't really a valid criticism, yeah. It was just a complaint.
You kind of destroyed Valkorian in this thread, lol...
SunRazer
Perhaps my comments on persistence could be equally applied to Azronger here.
Azronger
Originally posted by SunRazer
Perhaps my comments on persistence could be equally applied to Azronger here.
What were comments were those?
SunRazer
That I can sometimes be overly persistent. It's not necessarily a bad thing, though.
Azronger
I usually get tired very quickly if my opponent is failing to grasp the point. I should learn to be as persistent as you. It's an admirable trait, tbh.
Dispray
This is a new level of fanboying.
Azronger
Legend, I am awaiting ur response
slayne
Anytime soon, LeG?
Deronn_solo
This was pretty good, but needless to say, they are some notable chinks in the armor of this essay.
ILS
Legend never made a response, did he?
ILS
Not every piece of evidence Az presented is ironclad, some of it is implied or suggested evidence. So you can nitpick those, though you cannot deny that they add to the overall image of Palpatine that Az is attempting to create.
When you simply look at the ironclad evidence Az displayed and described, it's abundantly clear that Sidious is operating at a level beyond just about everyone else. Certainly Valkorion. Even forget the "most powerful Dark Sider" quotes, he doesn't need them. Sidious has done things casually that Valkorion spent hundreds of years busting his ass to fail at replicating... that's the ultimate difference between them. Sidious accomplished far more in far less time, and if he wasn't being rivalled by the Skywalkers - walking plot devices - chances are, he would have accomplished all of his endeavours.
SunRazer
Yeah, anything as big as this will have something to nitpick. For what it is it's a very solid piece.
On the whole, though, I think it's pretty obvious that Sheev > all other Sith and Valkorion.
Azronger
Originally posted by ILS
Legend never made a response, did he?
Nope. Let's see if Harr and Skillz live up to the challenge.
Azronger
Thanks for the compliments, both of you
Rockydonovang
this thread is epic yea, most comprehensive respect thread I've ever seen. And yea, it's blatantly obvious who's the big bad dude of the mythos.
There are some nitpicks here and there, but nothing significant.
Azronger
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
this thread is epic yea, most comprehensive respect thread I've ever seen. And yea, it's blatantly obvious who's the big bad dude of the mythos.
There are some nitpicks here and there, but nothing significant.
This thread is even more comprehensive: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/darth-sidioussheev-palpatine-super-respect-thread-1877280/
YousufKhan1212
The plan was to drink until the pain over.
But what's worse, the pain or the hangover?
Fresh air, rolling down the window.
Too many Urkels on your team, that's why your wins low.
Don't make me pull the toys out, huh.
Don't make me pull the toys.
And fire up the engines, huh.
And then they make noise.
thesithmaster
Pretty good. Not perfect, but then again, nothing really is perfect. This blog is still correct.
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