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Who wins

Cage

Cage could remove his limbs if he wanted.

I think that Bane is a better fighter. Not totally sure.

Solomon Grundy and Amygdala:

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569259_Batman_019-005.jpg

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569260_Batman_019-006.jpg

World War Bane is back, Cage gets eaten.

Cage destroys bane 10/10.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Solomon Grundy and Amygdala:

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569259_Batman_019-005.jpg

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569260_Batman_019-006.jpg

Lol that's a stupid ass scene.

Bane is far and above Cage at this point.

Until Batman beats him with his bare hands again...

Bane breaks his hands against Cage's face.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Until Batman beats him with his bare hands again...

Bane has beaten Batman, too.

^ Bane has already stomped the bejesus out of Batman in this very arc, lol:
https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584225_Batman_2016-_018-006.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584243_Batman_2016-_018-007.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584259_Batman_2016-_018-010.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584275_Batman_2016-_018-011.jpg

https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584308_Batman_2016-_018-014.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584327_Batman_2016-_018-015.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584339_Batman_2016-_018-018.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584357_Batman_2016-_018-019.jpg


That said, we know Bruce isn't going to be taken out of commission in their upcoming battle, as he's already being featured in solicits for subsequent issues/arcs, in which he will be a key player. What we *don't* know is *how* he'll overcome Bane this time -- though I'll be surprised if he straight-up beats him with no strings attached... This is a Bane like we've never seen, imo. Dude is on a f*cking mission.

Originally posted by Zack M
Bane is far and above Cage at this point. Nah.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Bane has already stomped the bejesus out of Batman in this very arc, lol:
https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584225_Batman_2016-_018-006.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584243_Batman_2016-_018-007.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584259_Batman_2016-_018-010.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584275_Batman_2016-_018-011.jpg

https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584308_Batman_2016-_018-014.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584327_Batman_2016-_018-015.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584339_Batman_2016-_018-018.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34584357_Batman_2016-_018-019.jpg


That said, we know Bruce isn't going to be taken out of commission in their upcoming battle, as he's already being featured in solicits for subsequent issues/arcs, in which he will be a key player. What we *don't* know is *how* he'll overcome Bane this time -- though I'll be surprised if he straight-up beats him with no strings attached... This is a Bane like we've never seen, imo. Dude is on a f*cking mission.

Terrible characterization.

^ His characterization kind of fits his current mental state, tbh... He's borderline insane right now.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Solomon Grundy and Amygdala:

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569259_Batman_019-005.jpg

http://s6d8.turboimagehost.com/t/34569260_Batman_019-006.jpg
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol that's a stupid ass scene.

This I agree with. I can see Bane beating Amy,via being a more skilled fighter and possibly stronger on the Venom, but no chance in Hell against almost Any version of Grundy with only straight up h2h and muscle.

Luke.

Cage has never gone up against someone as powerful as Grundy or Batgod.

Bane stomps.

Grundy ranges depending on the story. Wildcat and I think Green Arrow have wins over him to.

BatGod is an imaginary deity even in the comic book realm.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Grundy ranges depending on the story. Wildcat and I think Green Arrow have wins over him to.

BatGod is an imaginary deity even in the comic book realm.

It wasn't specified how weak or strong Grundy was, but it's not like Bane doesn't have victories over guys like Hourman or Hawkman. Guy is a beast and consistently fights out his weight class.

Originally posted by Zack M
It wasn't specified how weak or strong Grundy was, but it's not like Bane doesn't have victories over guys like Hourman or Hawkman. Guy is a beast and consistently fights out his weight class.

I honestly wouldn't even say Hawkman is stronger than Cage. Though I do doubt there's a huge disparity.

Wouldn't be surprised if Grundy's strength factored into the rhyme. Like these street level characters are fighting him on Friday or something. Cause there definitely not fighting the version that goes toe to toe with Supes.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
This I agree with. I can see Bane beating Amy,via being a more skilled fighter and possibly stronger on the Venom, but no chance in Hell against almost Any version of Grundy with only straight up h2h and muscle.
Not overly surprising, tbh. That is the same Grundy who Batman casually two-shotted not long ago:
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586128_Batman_002-003.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586141_Batman_002-004.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586157_Batman_002-005.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586174_Batman_002-006.jpg

DC shits on him constantly... It's pathetic.



Anywho, where Bane is concerned I did like this scene:
http://i.imgur.com/rQC57vXh.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
This is the same Grundy that Batman two-shotted not long ago... Getting owned is par for the course with him, unfortunately. DC shits on him constantly.


Anywho, I did like this scene:
http://i.imgur.com/rQC57vXh.jpg




That's a beastly feat, too. Bane also tossed around statues likea ragdoll. He's strong enough to at least compete with Cage, while being a more skilled fighter, and more intelligent to boot.

Originally posted by Zack M
He's strong enough to at least compete with Cage Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Cage has moved beyond the lower rung strength tier nowadays.

These creatures were literally walking mountains.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/17tt3t.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/xfsspt.jpg

Yeah, Bane definitely isn't contending with Cage's higher-end showings.

So does Bane have that big of a modern fan following now or is it just DC WISHES he does and are just shoving him down the fan's throats?

Originally posted by Smurph


Nice. I concede.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ His characterization kind of fits his current mental state, tbh... He's borderline insane right now.

Still don't like it. I also don't like rehashing old scenes and insanity has never been his character trait. I'm gonna read the book get some backstory

^ You should. Once you get the full context, his current mindset/characterization probably won't bug you nearly as much -- it kind of suits everything that's going on with him.

...And he's also on a huge dose of Venom right now, so that's definitely going to have an effect on his mental state as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ You should. Once you get the full context, his current mindset/characterization probably won't bug you nearly as much -- it kind of suits everything that's going on with him.

...And he's also on a huge dose of Venom right now, so that's definitely going to have an effect on his mental state as well.

Which book is this?? Issue number?

You're probably right though. Backstory will help me understand the mechanizations. I always liked the fact that Bane was strategic/intelligent.. He's not the type to be unhinged and I prefer him off venom as opposed to on but I guess change is good albeit unwelcome. Thanks for the knowledge

Originally posted by Galan007
Not overly surprising, tbh. That is the same Grundy who Batman casually two-shotted not long ago:
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586128_Batman_002-003.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586141_Batman_002-004.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586157_Batman_002-005.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34586174_Batman_002-006.jpg

DC shits on him constantly... It's pathetic.



Anywho, where Bane is concerned I did like this scene:
http://i.imgur.com/rQC57vXh.jpg




The same Grundy who was giving Gotham and Gotham Girl a run for their money...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The same Grundy who was giving Gotham and Gotham Girl a run for their money...

IF Grundy was at those levels, Bane would have the best feat automatically.

Pretty interesting that both got their powers from prison experiments. Luke wins but Bane makes him work for it.

Using Grundy in these debates should be taken with a barrel of salt. He's the character with THE least consistency in power level at this point that's his defining attribute.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Using Grundy in these debates should be taken with a barrel of salt. He's the character with THE least consistency in power level at this point that's his defining attribute.

You don't understand a thing.

World War Bane is back. He has actually steamrolled through most of Bat's rogue gallery (...again...), everyone is afraid of him.

Puny Parker pisses his pants whenever near a comic store, afraid of seeing Bane on one of the covers.

Originally posted by Galan007
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34569259_Batman_019-005.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34569260_Batman_019-006.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34569261_Batman_019-007.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34569262_Batman_019-008.jpg



Bane steamrolled through everyone in Arkham Asylum, ffs:
https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34569263_Batman_019-012.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34569264_Batman_019-013.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34569265_Batman_019-014.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34569266_Batman_019-015.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34569267_Batman_019-016.jpg

*The Mr. Freeze scan is particularly awesome.

:')

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The same Grundy who was giving Gotham and Gotham Girl a run for their money... The powers of Gotham and Gotham Girl varied in accordance to *who* they were fighting -- they always had the minimum power required to win:
http://i.imgur.com/4jcBATh.jpg

That's why Gotham struggled just to hold up a section of a bridge, for example, but easily stomped the combined JLA a few issues later... IOW, when the siblings encountered Grundy, it is entirely possible that their powers merely 'adjusted' to Batman/Bane levels, as that is clearly all that's required to f*ck him up. ermmhappy

I know. Still, remember - there was some massive collateral damage...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/batman-gotham-and-gotham-girl-vs-solomon-grundy-2.png

Can't see Batsie taking that hit.

So, Grundy might have a glass jaw, but he def can deliver his share of punishment... and yet he only managed to tear a hole in Bane's shirt and pants Or maybe that was that z-lister's (Amygdala's) doing

Bane is the new God of DC, can't wait to see Seid blowing him

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You don't understand a thing.

World War Bane is back. He has actually steamrolled through most of Bat's rogue gallery (...again...), everyone is afraid of him.

Puny Parker pisses his pants whenever near a comic store, afraid of seeing Bane on one of the covers.

He's the strongest and most dangerous of Batman's rogues gallery if not close to it. That feat doesnt amaze me all that much.

Say it with me. World War Bane. Feel the powah, Gold Ranger.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
He's the strongest and most dangerous of Batman's rogues gallery if not close to it. That feat doesnt amaze me all that much. Bane stomping Bruce's entire rogue gallery when they were all amped on Venom *was* a much better feat, tbh.

That said, this is still a Bane like we have never seen. He's amped on a ridiculous amount of Venom, and he's PISSED.

Bane SHOULD actually be able to contend with Cage. Jason Todd with the same Venom (I think it was with the same Venom) easily broke free from SUPERGIRL. That's probably a lot more impressive than what Cage has done on average.

Batman on Venom also made Superman bleed with a punch.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Insane.

Isnt that the injustice video game power levels?

Originally posted by Zack M
Bane SHOULD actually be able to contend with Cage. Jason Todd with the same Venom (I think it was with the same Venom) easily broke free from SUPERGIRL. That's probably a lot more impressive than what Cage has done on average. she expected for him to have human strength and she said so herself. Cage has knocked out the thing, is implied to have beaten colossus, fought the Juggernaut (in the very same arc that Kain evenly fought king Hyperion), knocked out rhino (twice), knocked out iron clad, evenly fought proxima midnight and was drawing blood (she recently took hits from Thor without any problem), put the hulk on his ass (on two separate occasions btw), and managed to hurt namor underwater. Even if we did pretend that Jason's feats on venom translate to bane's feats on venom (they shouldn't because everyone has a different reaction to venom), Luke still has way more showings that shit all over suprising a character that's going easy on you because they think you're a normal human.

It's also worth noting that Luke can and has taken hits from heralds (proxima, namor, heroim the shamed, ms marvel, blue marvel, etc) and he's still kept coming. Bane really has no sort of answer to Luke's showings.

Originally posted by deathslash
she expected for him to have human strength and she said so herself. Cage has knocked out the thing, is implied to have beaten colossus, fought the Juggernaut (in the very same arc that Kain evenly fought king Hyperion), knocked out rhino (twice), knocked out iron clad, evenly fought proxima midnight and was drawing blood (she recently took hits from Thor without any problem), put the hulk on his ass (on two separate occasions btw), and managed to hurt namor underwater. Even if we did pretend that Jason's feats on venom translate to bane's feats on venom (they shouldn't because everyone has a different reaction to venom), Luke still has way more showings that shit all over suprising a character that's going easy on you because they think you're a normal human.

It's also worth noting that Luke can and has taken hits from heralds (proxima, namor, heroim the shamed, ms marvel, blue marvel, etc) and he's still kept coming. Bane really has no sort of answer to Luke's showings.



He did it twice. Supergirl>>>All of the characters you mentioned.

http://i.imgur.com/acc6WXo.jpg

Originally posted by deathslash
Even if we did pretend that Jason's feats on venom translate to bane's feats on venom (they shouldn't because everyone has a different reaction to venom), You're totally right in saying that everyone has a different reaction to Venom. However, it has been iterated and reiterated(especially in DCnU) that Bane is far and away superior to all other Venom-users... So take that for what it's worth.

srug

Originally posted by Zack M
He did it twice. Supergirl>>>All of the characters you mentioned.

http://i.imgur.com/acc6WXo.jpg still holding back, bane still loses.Originally posted by Zack M
Nice. I concede. I accept your concession. Originally posted by Galan007
You're totally right in saying that everyone has a different reaction to Venom. However, it has been iterated and reiterated(especially in DCnU) that Bane is far and away superior to all other Venom-users... So take that for what it's worth.

srug meh, the batfamily tends to get wanked pretty hard by the writers and that showing that Batman had while on venom was still happening when DC was still kind of in flux because the new52 only just started, so a few nonsensical high end canon destabilizing showings are to be expected. Kind of like how Gambit was able to evenly fight and injure gladiator during his first few appearances.

But we've seen 3 characters on Venom do top tier/low-mid herald things. Now that I think of it, Bane can compete. He's also a better fighter.

Again...I Bane will be looked at in a much less lofty view after the next time he faces Bruce. Just a nagging feeling.

Originally posted by Zack M
But we've seen 3 characters on Venom do top tier/low-mid herald things. Now that I think of it, Bane can compete. He's also a better fighter. three characters? Grundy fluctates, so i would hardly count that, jason is a skilled martial artist (knows how to break grapples) and breaking free of a character that's holding back is hardly top teir. Meanwhile, Bruce's feat happend while DC was still in flux. Three showings does not compete with almost fifty years of showings. Unless bane can suddenly strike harder than juggernaut, blue marvel, proxima midnight, wrecker, rhino, she-hulk, heroim, or the thing, he loses. Also, how good is bane exactly, he can fight evenly with batman, but cage can and has still fought evenly with spider-man, daredevil, and iron fist, hell, he's tagged living laser before. Cage has also been fighting since he was a child and he's even been trained in h2h by iron fist.

Originally posted by deathslash
three characters? Grundy fluctates, so i would hardly count that, jason is a skilled martial artist (knows how to break grapples) and breaking free of a character that's holding back is hardly top teir. Meanwhile, Bruce's feat happend while DC was still in flux. Three showings does not compete with almost fifty years of showings. Unless bane can suddenly strike harder than juggernaut, blue marvel, proxima midnight, wrecker, rhino, she-hulk, heroim, or the thing, he loses. Also, how good is bane exactly, he can fight evenly with batman, but cage can and has still fought evenly with spider-man, daredevil, and iron fist, hell, he's tagged living laser before. Cage has also been fighting since he was a child and he's even been trained in h2h by iron fist.

Three showings on top of Bane's already solid record. He's gone up against characters who are close to Cage and this was the inferior Venom, too.

And when was it stated Jason is skilled at breaking grapples?

Originally posted by Zack M
But we've seen 3 characters on Venom do top tier/low-mid herald things. Now that I think of it, Bane can compete. He's also a better fighter. ...And he also possesses metahuman stats without a dosing of Venom:

http://i.imgur.com/Aq9cAUB.jpg

Yup Bane has been above peak human for a while now

Joker is yesterday's news.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Joker is yesterday's news. http://i.imgur.com/qbk9F35.jpg


vin

Originally posted by Zack M
Three showings on top of Bane's already solid record. He's gone up against characters who are close to Cage and this was the inferior Venom, too. you're only looking at this from one point of view, cage has gone up against far more powerful characters than himself and still won. What makes bane (who is undeniably physically inferior) win against a guy whose averages put him in the high meta level and whose high end feats put him in the mid to high herald tier? Do you believe that bane could do as well as cage did against rhino, wrecker, venom, Ms marvel, the thing, namor, or the hulk?

Do you want to get into a lifting debate? We both know that Cage has better strength feats.

Do you want to get into a durability debate? We both know that Cage has taken punches from heralds and kept fighting without a problem. Hell, he tanked a nuke and only died from radiation.

Do you want to debate speed? Bane may be faster, but that's arguable since cage has still tagged the likes of spider-man and living laser (look at that nice high end showing that should be discounted because of how utterly rediculous it is).

What in you opinion makes bane (a character with a history of having trouble/losing to street levelers) beat Luke Cage?Originally posted by Zack M
And when was it stated Jason is skilled at breaking grapples? I would assume that the "mast of 127 styles" would at least teach the kid how to break a grapple or that he at least picked it up when he trained with the league of assassin's.

Originally posted by deathslash
you're only looking at this from one point of view, cage has gone up against far more powerful characters than himself and still won. What makes bane (who is undeniably physically inferior) win against a guy whose averages put him in the high meta level and whose high end feats put him in the mid to high herald tier? Do you believe that bane could do as well as cage did against rhino, wrecker, venom, Ms marvel, the thing, namor, or the hulk?

Do you want to get into a lifting debate? We both know that Cage has better strength feats.

Do you want to get into a durability debate? We both know that Cage has taken punches from heralds and kept fighting without a problem. Hell, he tanked a nuke and only died from radiation.

Do you want to debate speed? Bane may be faster, but that's arguable since cage has still tagged the likes of spider-man and living laser (look at that nice high end showing that should be discounted because of how utterly rediculous it is).

What in you opinion makes bane (a character with a history of having trouble/losing to street levelers) beat Luke Cage? I would assume that the "mast of 127 styles" would at least teach the kid how to break a grapple or that he at least picked it up when he trained with the league of assassin's.

Bane has taken hits from heralds, too. A pissed off Superman comes to mind.

And Jason being an expert in MA doesn't mean he can easily grapple out of high level heralds grips. Now you're just downplaying that feat, just like you did the others.

Hahahahaha

How ****ing retarded do you have to be, to think that Cage is high meta to high herald.

Originally posted by Zack M
Bane has taken hits from heralds, too. A pissed off Superman comes to mind.

And Jason being an expert in MA doesn't mean he can easily grapple out of high level heralds grips. Now you're just downplaying that feat, just like you did the others. when did he get hit by a pissed off Superman? What was the context and issue number?

Didn't say it was solely due to skill. She wasn't expecting him to be that strong and when she subdued him again, she softened up and tried asking him why he was so strong, at which point he pulled away again. Great feat, but hardly worthy of saying that bane can take this.

Also, how did I lowballing anything? Does Grundy or does he not fluctuate? Has Grundy been beaten by the likes of wildcat and Batman? Hell, even at his best, Grundy put up a fight and then got oneshotted by a non holding back Superman. I don't mean that he got knocked out, he straight up died. From. One. Punch.

Was Batman or was he not on venom at the start of the new52? Was this still when DC was testing the waters again? Has venom ever again shown that it can make its users capable of drawing blood from a Kryptonian? My statement is only supported by bane's showings. The guy struggled with killer croc even when he was on venom. Unless croc has become significantly more powerful, bane struggled with a low meta.

Originally posted by deathslash
when did he get hit by a pissed off Superman? What was the context and issue number?

Didn't say it was solely due to skill. She wasn't expecting him to be that strong and when she subdued him again, she softened up and tried asking him why he was so strong, at which point he pulled away again. Great feat, but hardly worthy of saying that bane can take this.

Also, how did I lowballing anything? Does Grundy or does he not fluctuate? Has Grundy been beaten by the likes of wildcat and Batman? Hell, even at his best, Grundy put up a fight and then got oneshotted by a non holding back Superman. I don't mean that he got knocked out, he straight up died. From. One. Punch.

Was Batman or was he not on venom at the start of the new52? Was this still when DC was testing the waters again? Has venom ever again shown that it can make its users capable of drawing blood from a Kryptonian? My statement is only supported by bane's showings. The guy struggled with killer croc even when he was on venom. Unless croc has become significantly more powerful, bane struggled with a low meta.

What do you mean, "testing the waters?" Batman drew blood from a high herald on Venom. Bane has been a beast from the very start, and he's getting more powerful through feats.

Grundy at his BEST is trans level, team buster. Like people said before, he fluctuates.

Here is the Superbat Vs Bane fight. Bane took a blow from Superman and endured his HEAT VISION.

Superbat Vs Bane

I don't want to post the whole fight.

Originally posted by deathslash
The guy struggled with killer croc even when he was on venom. Unless croc has become significantly more powerful, bane struggled with a low meta.

Croc has only one good showing against Bane. And that was after Bane was poisoned by Poison Ivy. Bane usually beats the hell out of Killer Croc.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Hahahahaha

How ****ing retarded do you have to be, to think that Cage is high meta to high herald. His showings clearly paint him as being at least a mid meta and he's likely a high meta. His top their showings paint him in a favorable light against even heralds (proxima, wonder man, hulk, blue marvel, iron clad, etc). It's no different from how Batman is clearly a high street and then his top showings put him in the mid meta tier. I'm not saying that Cage is a high herald, but he's definitely capable of beating a good amount of high metas.
Originally posted by Supermutant
Croc has only one good showing against Bane. And that was after Bane was poisoned by Poison Ivy. Bane usually beats the hell out of Killer Croc. wrong, in his world war bane comic (genuinely forgot the name of the arc), croc put up a good fight before losing. That still counts as struggling.

Originally posted by deathslash
wrong, in his world war bane comic (genuinely forgot the name of the arc), croc put up a good fight before losing. That still counts as struggling.

You couldn't be anymore wrong here is the entire fight. Croc only got like 3 hits in which he did very little damage. Then he got curb-stomped by Bane using a giant bat symbol and thrown from the top of a skyscraper helplessly. Not to mention the other times that Bane has broke his arm and beat him down while he and other bat villains where on venom.

VS Killer Croc Round 3
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This match isn't even close. There are feats of Luke Cage holding his own or even beating a number of high metas and heralds. All that Bane has are feats of getting hit by heralds, or of a different character (not Bane) breaking out of a grip.

And no, they're not in the same class of strength, by a noticeable margin.

What heralds have cage beaten?

High meta doesnt mean much because they dont necessarily have superhuman durability and shit. Wolverine could one-shot half the high meta tier.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What heralds have cage beaten?

High meta doesnt mean much because they dont necessarily have superhuman durability and shit. Wolverine could one-shot half the high meta tier.

He can one shot a few trans as well

Originally posted by Smurph
This match isn't even close. There are feats of Luke Cage holding his own or even beating a number of high metas and heralds. All that Bane has are feats of getting hit by heralds, or of a different character (not Bane) breaking out of a grip.

And no, they're not in the same class of strength, by a noticeable margin.

Solomon Grundy, Hourman and Hawkman aren't high metas?

Cage is a character that makes no sense.

*punches Hulk*

LOOK HOW BLACK I AM

*Hulk reverts to Kluth*

OH NO I'M NOT BLACK ENOUGH

...

Originally posted by Supermutant
You couldn't be anymore wrong here is the entire fight. Croc only got like 3 hits in which he did very little damage. Then he got curb-stomped by Bane using a giant bat symbol and thrown from the top of a skyscraper helplessly. Not to mention the other times that Bane has broke his arm and beat him down while he and other bat villains where on venom.

VS Killer Croc Round 3
http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390191_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-013.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390192_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-014.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390193_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-015.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390199_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-016.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390220_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-017.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23390222_forever_evil_-_arkham_war_2013-_003-018.jpg you might want to look over your own scans in a more analytical light. Bane more or less jumped him from behind and when croc did hit him, it drew blood. When croc bit him, his teeth broke the skin and bane shouted in pain. When croc hit him for the third time, it still knocked bane back. Bane won by way of using a blunt object to bludgeon croc with. Before that point in time, it looked to be 50/50. Seriously, look back over those scans and then try to genuinely tell me that bane wasn't struggling. If you and I got in a fight and I landed three hits (all of which draw blood) while you're wearing and armored suit and you have to resort to beating me with a baseball bat, would I or would I not have made you struggle for the victory?

I won't argue that bane doesn't have a good track record against him, he's won almost every time that they've fought. They've fought about four times? Out of those times, croc has pulled one victory and lost twice with one fight (in the sewers while Crocs arms were in casts) being undecided.
Originally posted by krisblaze
What heralds have cage beaten?

High meta doesnt mean much because they dont necessarily have superhuman durability and shit. Wolverine could one-shot half the high meta tier. Not saying he's beaten any heralds, but he has drawn blood from proxima midnight, drawn blood from Juggernaut, drawn blood from namor underwater, put the hulk on his ass (twice), and taken down iron clad (I suppose that counts as a low herald?).

Cage has had some serious feats, but no writer actually gives him any REAL panel time, because... he's a non-character.

Bane, on the other hand... you can write entire volumes about him.

Cage may win this, but not a single comic fan will enjoy it.

PM wasn't all that impressive durability wise. Just chipping in.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cage has had some serious feats, but no writer actually gives him any REAL panel time, because... he's a non-character.

Bane, on the other hand... you can write entire volumes about him.

Cage may win this, but not a single comic fan will enjoy it. I enjoy seeing cage beat down people just to see how some people's jimmies get rustled over it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cage may win this, but not a single comic fan will enjoy it.

Originally posted by deathslash
I enjoy seeing cage beat down people just to see how some people's jimmies get rustled over it.

Indeed.

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/19539/5674180-luke+cage.jpg

Powerless weak-ass Panther, too.

Originally posted by Zack M
...but it's not like Bane doesn't have victories over guys like Hourman or Hawkman.

What issue did Bane fight Hawkman?

Originally posted by Supermutant
What issue did Bane fight Hawkman?

Don't think it happened. Just Golgo being Golgo.

But if one person knows for sure, it's Mungi.