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A tragic story, 3 dead so far:

Vehicle driven into people on city street in Swedish capital

No word yet on the motive behind this cowardly attack.

Let us hope the Syria thing doesn't cause the media to not pay attention to this story.

Vansonbee is glad people were murdered. What a loser and he has a micropenis.

Here a few steps you leftist can do during this horrible time.

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Religion of peace

Originally posted by Robtard
Vansonbee is glad people were murdered. What a loser and he has a micropenis.

it appears that all the gore is making his micropenis hard enough to cut diamonds

Jesus H Christ...

I didn't need to see that... or didn't expect to see that.

Maybe people do need to see that...

Holy shit a truck did that? Wtf?

I usually don't comment on non super hero or video game related things, but Jesus Vasonbee. Seriously, why the f*** would you say you are glad this happened? This is a F****** tragedy and innocent people died and you say you are glad it happened? What the hell is wrong with you? Those are real people.

Originally posted by emporerpants
I usually don't comment on non super hero or video game related things, but Jesus Vasonbee. Seriously, why the f*** would you say you are glad this happened? This is a F****** tragedy and innocent people died and you say you are glad it happened? What the hell is wrong with you? Those are real people.

Because they believe wacky shit that no one is allowed to criticize.

I for one am not glad this happened, but I do hope it will be a wake up call about terrorism.

As far as I know nobody has been caught yet.

Okay so the news just changed, someone has been arrested.

Man confesses to Swedish truck attack

"STOCKHOLM - Swedish police have arrested a man in north Stockholm and he has confessed to carrying out a deadly truck attack in the centre of the city on Friday, daily Aftonbladet said citing unnamed sources.

The man has some light injuries and said he was responsible for the attack, Aftonbladet said citing several unnamed sources.

Police declined to comment."

Vansonbee, show some sense. Posting pics of murdered victims is against the rules and decency.

These stupid acts of radical terrorism don't help anything.

Originally posted by emporerpants
I usually don't comment on non super hero or video game related things, but Jesus Vasonbee. Seriously, why the f*** would you say you are glad this happened? This is a F****** tragedy and innocent people died and you say you are glad it happened? What the hell is wrong with you? Those are real people. Of course I care about these people, but they keep allowing this tragedy to happen to themselves. I want more terror attacks, because it would help change their mind. Don't blame me for being desensitized, it happens way to often.Originally posted by Badabing
Vansonbee, show some sense. Posting pics of murdered victims is against the rules and decency.

Sorry, wanted to share this event with KMC, but didn't realize its a "safe place" for Robby and friends. lol

Originally posted by vansonbee
Of course I care about these people, but they keep allowing this tragedy to happen to themselves. I want more terror attacks, because it would help change their mind. Don't blame me for being desensitized, it happens way to often.

Sorry, wanted to share this event with KMC, but didn't realize its a "safe place" for Robby and friends. lol This would be like liberals wanting more mass shootings, because it would help change minds about gun control. Both are shitty.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Of course I care about these people, but they keep allowing this tragedy to happen to themselves. I want more terror attacks, because it would help change their mind.

Whut?

Originally posted by vansonbee

Sorry, wanted to share this event with KMC, but didn't realize its a "safe place" for Robby and friends. lol

it's not like he has the power to delete them from your bookmarks, so you can still whack off to them whenever you want.

Update: 4 people are now dead and 15 injured.

4 dead in apparent Swedish terrorist attack

"The truck had been stolen while making a beer delivery to a tapas bar further up Drottninggatan, Spendrups Brewery spokesman Marten Lyth said. A masked person jumped into the cab, started the truck and drove away.

"We were standing by the traffic lights at Drottninggatan and then we heard some screaming and saw a truck coming," a witness who declined to be named told Reuters.

"Then it drove into a pillar at Ahlens City (department store) where the hood started burning. When it stopped we saw a man lying under the tyre. It was terrible to see," said the man, who saw the incident from his car.

Police said four people had died and 15 were injured. National news agency TT said those hurt included the delivery driver, who had tried to stop the hijack."

EDIT: Okay so I have just seen a different article that says the death toll is now 5. I am not sure if that is accurate or not.

Originally posted by vansonbee


Sorry, wanted to share this event with KMC, but didn't realize its a "safe place" for Robby and friends. lol

Says the micropenis-boi who reported my "Oh, Conservatives" thread. Lolz.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's not like he has the power to delete them from your bookmarks, so you can still whack off to them whenever you want. Bro, its obvious its your fantasy, I never mention anything close to whacking off or porn etc...

You leftist love to project these type of sexual fantasy, cause you know you love dead bodies.

Rob and friends = craze pedo's

Another thing about this attack is that because it happened in Sweden it is possible they are not going to reveal to people who specifically was behind this attack.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I want more terror attacks, because it would help change their mind. Don't blame me for being desensitized, it happens way to often.

LoL, not only is Vansonbee happy people where murdered in Sweden, he wants even more deaths to happen. What a loser and he has a micropenis.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, not only is Vansonbee happy people where murdered in Sweden, he wants even more deaths to happen. What a loser and he has a micropenis.

He is a "Man Going His Own Way," which is just his way of pretending that his virginity is his choice.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Bro, its obvious its your fantasy, I never mention anything close to whacking off or porn etc...

You leftist love to project these type of sexual fantasy, cause you know you love dead bodies.

Rob and friends = craze pedo's

https://i0.wp.com/media0.giphy.com/media/qkXATkoqFd7oI/giphy.gif

Incredibly disturbing anyone would post that on a PG13 board.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
He is a "Man Going His Own Way," which is just his way of pretending that his virginity is his choice.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Incredibly disturbing anyone would post that on a PG13 board.

IMHO, Vansonbee's always come off unhinged; his posting style at times reminds me of that virgin who murdered a bunch of people because he couldn't get girls to talk to him, Elliot Rodger was the name iirc.

edit: This guy

http://khq.images.worldnow.com/images/3812430_G.jpg

These refugees only bring crime. The places where they reside turn into crime ridden slums. The unskilled do not contribute anything to society and burden the working people.

Originally posted by Kurk
The unskilled

and what's your skill?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and what's your skill? I'm obtaining it. I'm an upcoming university freshman.

Originally posted by Kurk
I'm obtaining it. I'm an upcoming university freshman.

ah, so you are currently unskilled as well.

now that we've established that...why is it that you deserve this opportunity to better yourself, but they should be denied it?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
ah, so you are currently unskilled as well.

now that we've established that...why is it that you deserve this opportunity to better yourself, but they should be denied it? Because I am the investment of my parents. They've poured money into me in order to obtain market value so that I can pay them back with interest. The refugees often have no formal primary school education and are limited in what they can pursue. They are the investment of no one but the government, and I must say they're doing a rather poor job. Why train an unskilled 30 year old if you already have natives far up ahead?

So yeah, Sweden... Sucks. Hopefully if they do crack down on the refugees they've been taking in, they don't target the wrong people.

Never gonna happen. Leftists don't "crack down" on groups that will actually FIGHT Back.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Never gonna happen. Leftists don't "crack down" on groups that will actually FIGHT Back.

Mhmm.

Umm, do we know that the attacker(s) were refugees? News so far has been limited.

Look what happened recently in the UK, terrorist attack, people knee-jerk and start accusing refugees/immigrants and the guy turns out to be UK born. Boy, did those people sure look like the proper idiots they are that day. Lol. Good times, that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Umm, do we know that the attacker(s) were refugees? News so far has been limited.

We do not know who did it yet. The problem is we potentially may never be told.

Originally posted by Robtard
Umm, do we know that the attacker(s) were refugees? News so far has been limited.

Look what happened recently in the UK, terrorist attack, people knee-jerk and start accusing refugees/immigrants and the guy turns out to be UK born. Boy, did those people sure look like the proper idiots they are that day. Lol. Good times, that.

I thought I had read that it was. If not, my mistake. I could be thinking of something else.

Originally posted by Robtard
IMHO, Vansonbee's always come off unhinged; his posting style at times reminds me of that virgin who murdered a bunch of people because he couldn't get girls to talk to him, Elliot Rodger was the name iirc.

edit: This guy

http://khq.images.worldnow.com/images/3812430_G.jpg
He was one of those MGTOW fuc*os, wasn't he?

Originally posted by Robtard
IMHO, Vansonbee's always come off unhinged; his posting style at times reminds me of that virgin who murdered a bunch of people because he couldn't get girls to talk to him, Elliot Rodger was the name iirc.

edit: This guy

http://khq.images.worldnow.com/images/3812430_G.jpg

He was MGTOW too.

You would still do him.

Religion of Peace at it again

Seems the perpetrator was from Uzbekistan:

Uzbek man arrested over Swedish truck attack that killed four

Originally posted by Surtur
Seems the perpetrator was from Uzbekistan:

Uzbek man arrested over Swedish truck attack that killed four Was this guy following the words of ISIS or Erdogan?

Either way, its those damn Swedes fault for angering this poor Uzbek individual. The poor snackbar just wanted to show what a wonderful additional he is to the country.

It doesn't say, but the predictable response is probably going to be a bunch of hashtags like #NotAllMuslims and Sweden declares it a day of mourning and then that is it. Maybe some clips of people placing flowers at a memorial.

That process will be repeated after the next terrorist attack, and the next, and the next. Some folks will get butthurt over the fact I dared to even point this out. But of course that is just too damn bad.

You're just triggered Surt, unlike me who makes it a point to respond to you every time you post something I disagree with calling you triggered.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
You're just triggered Surt, unlike me who makes it a point to respond to you every time you post something I disagree with calling you triggered.

The funny thing is someone will most likely try to say this very response is you being triggered.

This whole forum is quickly becoming one big trigger jerk circle.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
You would still do him.

I don't **** ugly dudes.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I don't **** ugly dudes.


Thats why rooms come with light switches.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I don't **** ugly dudes. Originally posted by Flyattractor
Thats why rooms come with light switches. I think my idea is best for Adam.

https://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/ani-pupt.gif

Originally posted by vansonbee
I think my idea is best for Adam.

https://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/ani-pupt.gif

Take the eyes off the sack and its good to go.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Thats why rooms come with light switches.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I think my idea is best for Adam.

That was a categorical "no." Some of us are not so desperate that we have to resort to lights-off or bag-over-the-head solutions.

Why does vansobee sound like a 11 yr old who just discovered sex but doesn't fully understand it?

Maybe you and Adam could show him/her/it how to have the sex with an 11 yr old the right way Grimey. We all know you got the experience.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why does vansobee sound like a 11 yr old who just discovered sex but doesn't fully understand it? I love how you're fascinated with me and think of me deeply.

Don't worry your little panties, I'll be sticking around this forum, no matter what you say.

Circle Jerk nonsense just won't end... Rob and friends know how to manipulate the situation.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Thats why rooms come with light switches.

This is the same guy who said he'd f*ck Shia Labeouf.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I love how you're fascinated with me and think of me deeply.

Don't worry your little panties, I'll be sticking around this forum, no matter what you say.

Circle Jerk nonsense just won't end... Rob and friends know how to manipulate the situation. You posted graphic photographs of the victims of this attack and said that you're glad that it happened.

You're an actual piece of dog shit dude, and tbh you should strongly consider suicide.

The Left shows its big heart again.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I love how you're fascinated with me and think of me deeply.

Don't worry your little panties, I'll be sticking around this forum, no matter what you say.

Circle Jerk nonsense just won't end... Rob and friends know how to manipulate the situation. I just learned about your shitty existence, how is that 'thinking deeply' of you?

Its you. No need to go that DEEP.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
The Left shows its big heart again. I am not particularly a leftist, and certainly not a bleeding heart SJW like you're implying lad. I do genuinely believe vasonbee would be happier if he took his daddy's pistol, loaded it, pressed the muzzle to his temple, and pulled the trigger.

What's up neme. Your mouth still hurt?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I am not particularly a leftist, and certainly not a bleeding heart SJW like you're implying lad. I do genuinely believe vasonbee would be happier if he took his daddy's pistol, loaded it, pressed the muzzle to his temple, and pulled the trigger.

So you are one of those old school 60's esque Hippy Type Leftists then?

I mean you used the word "Lad".....which pretty much means you are old.

A Grumpy Old Hippy.

Reading through this thread...

So no matter how many of these attacks come, and how thick and fast they keep coming (yup, sex reference intended, because the giant dildo of Islam is f#cking the world) clearly the response is not an intelligent discussion. Not here anyway.

Fly just makes non-stop "leftists" remarks that mean nothing, even to partisan political discussion and vansonbee is glad it happened and wants more. That's truly f#cked up.

Is a semi-intelligent discussion about the state of the world even remotely possible?

Originally posted by Raisen
What's up neme. Your mouth still hurt? Doing all right, and nah my TMJ hasn't acted up in a long time. Not really sure why.

Are you down to help me save kmc or phuck this place

I sure trigger a lot of leftist trolls.

Everyone true colors always show.

Originally posted by Raisen
Are you down to help me save kmc or phuck this place Well I am the savior of KMC.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I sure trigger a lot of leftist trolls.

Everyone true colors always show. Speaking of triggers, maybe you should pull a pistol's trigger as the barrel of the gun is in your mouth lad?

Originally posted by Surtur
This is the same guy who said he'd f*ck Shia Labeouf.

Look at him.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/0d790c24a75014ac1933a693057eb9ce/tumblr_o4anl5kvie1sjjo2eo6_400.jpg

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Look at him.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/0d790c24a75014ac1933a693057eb9ce/tumblr_o4anl5kvie1sjjo2eo6_400.jpg He looks like a real soldier here. Heard his movie did bad in the box office for that role he was in.

Looks like a douchey skinhead, next.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Reading through this thread...

So no matter how many of these attacks come, and how thick and fast they keep coming (yup, sex reference intended, because the giant dildo of Islam is f#cking the world) clearly the response is not an intelligent discussion. Not here anyway.

Fly just makes non-stop "leftists" remarks that mean nothing, even to partisan political discussion and vansonbee is glad it happened and wants more. That's truly f#cked up.

Is a semi-intelligent discussion about the state of the world even remotely possible?

In this country when it comes to Islam? No. Just look at the "why does the middle east hate us" thread. The typical thing that happens happened there: people try to deflect from Islam by bringing up Christianity.

So long as so many people in this country are willing to bury their heads in the sand over Islam..no real discussion is possible.

Originally posted by Surtur
In this country when it comes to Islam? No. Just look at the "why does the middle east hate us" thread. The typical thing that happens happened there: people try to deflect from Islam by bringing up Christianity.

And Christianity is potentially just as scary as Islam.

And no one seems willing to face that fact. smh..

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
And Christianity is potentially just as scary as Islam.

And no one seems willing to face that fact. smh..

Lol wait, what? Christianity gets shit talked about it way way more than Islam. It's still somewhat taboo to call this shitty religion out, but Christianity is fair game.

Meanwhile the Christians aren't the ones currently committing a majority of terrorist attacks. They aren't mutilating the genitals of females, beheading them for leaving the house without a man, tossing gays off buildings, etc. So why are modern day Christians just as scary?

The most you could say is that, in the past, Christianity also did some horrible things. Which is fine for a discussion on religion in general, but has no real purpose in a discussion about modern day terror attacks by Islamic fundamentalists.

Huge difference in viewing Jesus as the example for what a person should strive to be and doing the same with Muhammad.

Originally posted by Surtur
Meanwhile the Christians aren't the ones currently committing a majority of terrorist attacks. So why are modern day Christians just as scary?

Because fundamentalist Christians actually believe that Jesus is coming back to Earth to take them up to heaven. That's has significant consequences (at least "potentially," which is what I said) because fundamentalist leaders (of which we have a LOT) would want to bring about the "end times," sort of a self-fulfilled prophecy. That combined with Islamic extremist could cook up a detrimental combination.

Keep in mind, I live in the South East where there are Christian churches every 100 yards. They are literally sprinkled everywhere. My dad is a fundy.

Originally posted by Surtur
So why are modern day Christians just as scary?

They have more sheer power. Look at their respective airforces and the casualties caused by Western forces by accident.

Of course, for that you'd need to categorically say that the US or Russia are fully christian, which isn't really the case. Christianity doesn't aim to become a state religion at their funtamentals unlike Islam does.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Because fundamentalist Christians actually believe that Jesus is coming back to Earth to take them up to heaven. That's has significant consequences (at least "potentially," which is what I said) because fundamentalist leaders (of which we have a LOT) would want to bring about the "end times," sort of a self-fulfilled prophecy. That combined with Islamic extremist could cook up a detrimental combination.

Keep in mind, I live in the South East where there are Christian churches every 100 yards. They are literally sprinkled everywhere. My dad is a fundy.

I'd rather have people who think Jesus is going to come take them to heaven as opposed to people who think they can get to heaven by exploding themselves and a bunch of other people.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'd rather have people who think Jesus is going to come take them to heaven as opposed to people who think they can get to heaven by exploding themselves and a bunch of other people.

I agree. But the potential is there.

Wacky beliefs are still wacky beliefs. The consequences may be different, but that doesn't make one more true than the other. They're both bullshit and both have consequences.

Originally posted by Bentley
They have more sheer power. Look at their respective airforces and the casualties caused by Western forces by accident.

Of course, for that you'd need to categorically say that the US or Russia are fully christian, which isn't really the case. Christianity doesn't aim to become a state religion at their funtamentals unlike Islam does.

So this is more not based on anything they have done recently, but what they might potentially do. Which is a valid, but I'm still more concerned about the religion that is actively engaging in a multitude of terror attacks, not to mention other atrocities.

Given the power they wield we should all be glad that Christianity at least went through some changes.

LOL the notion that all religions are just as bad becuz there's the "potential" for terrorism based on "wacky beliefs" is an absurd argument. Any ideology can lead to extremist violence. After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL the notion that all religions are just as bad becuz there's the "potential" for terrorism based on "wacky beliefs" is an absurd argument. Any ideology can lead to extremist violence. After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology.

Obviously Islam extemists are a more urgent matter.

My only annoyance is that no one seems to want to acknowledge the danger of Christianity. We are so violently against Islam, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black. And I'll have you remember that the history of Christianity was steeped in violence, mayhem, and murder all because of "beliefs" assumed true. Yes we have more "moderates" now, but there are still large percentages of the population that is "sure" that Jesus is going to come back.

Here is an interesting hypothetical: So we recently had the radical Islamists bombing a church. My question is if that had not happened and what actually did happen was that some Christians went and bombed a mosque and killed people....which of those stories would get more attention from the mainstream media?

Originally posted by Surtur
Meanwhile the Christians aren't the ones currently committing a majority of terrorist attacks. They aren't mutilating the genitals of females, beheading them for leaving the house without a man, tossing gays off buildings, etc. So why are modern day Christians just as scary? Christians do mutilate female genitals in some countries where homosexuality is also punishable by death. So that is not strictly true. mmm

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Christians do mutilate female genitals in some countries where homosexuality is also punishable by death. So that is not strictly true. mmm

Right, so the Christians merely aren't committing as much female genital mutilation, okie dokie. Islam still remains shittier.

Mmm, the argument member Patient-Leech appears to be making Surt is that Christianity is "potentially just as scary as Islam" - in which respect pally, who is doing bad things more is not in question, merely their capacity to do bad things in and of itself.

Try to keep up.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Mmm, the argument member Patient-Leech appears to be making Surt is that Christianity is "potentially just as scary as Islam" - in which respect pally, who is doing bad things more is not in question, merely their capacity to do bad things in and of itself.

Try to keep up.

I know what his point was, and my point was that potentially being scary doesn't compare with Islam, where it's more than the potential.

I literally even addressed what this was about a few posts up. So perhaps you need to keep up, yeah?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Obviously Islam extemists are a more urgent matter.

My only annoyance is that no one seems to want to acknowledge the danger of Christianity. We are so violently against Islam, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black. And I'll have you remember that the history of Christianity was steeped in violence, mayhem, and murder all because of "beliefs" assumed true. Yes we have more "moderates" now, but there are still large percentages of the population that is "sure" that Jesus is going to come back.
I could just as easily counter that some New Atheist who believes that the world would be better off without religion would rise to power and kill religious people, or send any religious person to some "reeducation camp," either of which would be disgusting acts of oppression with the purpose of stamping out any religious belief. Sure that might sound far-fetched, but so does the notion of modern Christianity progressing to the point of similar extremism to modern day Muslims.

Virtually any ideology can be taken to extremism, as proven by communism.

Originally posted by Surtur
I know what his point was, and my point was that potentially being scary doesn't compare with Islam, where it's more than the potential.

I literally even addressed what this was about a few posts up. So perhaps you need to keep up, yeah? Your point was to reframe the original posters argument in a way in which you could deflect and dismiss it. Yeah. I'm fully up to speed with all your usual antics.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Your point was to reframe the original posters argument in a way in which you could deflect and dismiss it. Yeah. I'm fully up to speed with all your usual antics.

I acknowledged it and said it doesn't make them currently as bad as Islam.

So, do keep up.

Which was not the argument. mmm

I'm feeling like you're lagging behind here Surt.

Originally posted by Surtur
I acknowledged it and said it doesn't make them currently as bad as Islam.

So, do keep up.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which was not the argument. mmm

I'm feeling like you're lagging behind here Surt.

The argument was they have the potential to be scary, nobody disagreed. Did you have anymore questions?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Okay? And the greater of two evils is still..the greater evil.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology. Not if you own up to all the dark ages our ancestors went through because of Christianity.

Plus the Crusades!!

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Not if you own up to all the dark ages our ancestors went through because of Christianity.
What do I have to own up for? I haven't done shit.

Originally posted by Surtur
The argument was they have the potential to be scary, nobody disagreed. Did you have anymore questions? I haven't asked any questions Surt.

But sure, do you think the fact that Christians are capable of being just as bad as Muslims in several capacities has brought you closer to grasping the root cause of the problem?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I haven't asked any questions Surt.

But sure, do you think the fact that Christians are capable of being just as bad as Muslims in several capacities has brought you closer to grasping the root cause of the problem?

I think both religions are toxic, but Islam is far far worse.

Why don't you enlighten us all as to the "root" cause of this? As long as it doesn't involve whining and blaming other countries, of course.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
What do I have to own up for? I haven't done shit. Confess, DMB.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think both religions are toxic, but Islam is far far worse.

Why don't you enlighten us all as to the "root" cause of this? As long as it doesn't involve whining and blaming other countries, of course. Americur. Of course.

But no, I think the fact that Christianity and Islam overlap in many respects when it comes to extremism tells us that the problem is primarily cultural. It being telling that the Christians and Muslims in question come from the same countries.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Americur. Of course.

There are many people in your country who probably truly believe this.



So it's not Islam that is toxic, but the culture of these people? But..isn't Islam sort of ingrained in their culture? And their politics? And pretty much every aspect of life?

It also needs to be pointed out that while no religion is perfect and Christianity certainly isn't..they are NOT all equally imperfect. Compare Jainism(the real religion of peace) to Islam, just to give one example. Who would you rather have spend the night in your home Beni? An Islamic extremist or an extremist who follows Jainism?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
What do I have to own up for? I haven't done shit. By your posts it seems you don't acknowledge those things happened.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
By your posts it seems you don't acknowledge those things happened.
Ah I'm speaking in a modern context.

I may be a Christian (and that probably makes me EEEEVIIIIIL in some of your eyes but idc) but I'm not a denier of historical fact that makes Christians look bad.

Originally posted by Surtur
So it's not Islam that is toxic, but the culture of these people? But..isn't Islam sort of ingrained in their culture? And their politics? And pretty much every aspect of life?Of a certain strain, yes. Obviously the manner in which its been adapted has been guided by their culture and conditions. FYI: those examples cited from Christianity and in-places were they are devoutly religious also. The separation of church and state being itself a cultural issue, and a good starting point.

No they are not, but Christianity is also at the moment, the dominant religion of the first world (and developing countries) while Islam is predominant in third world countries. This is not a coincidence.

I'm struggling to see the relevance of this question.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Confess, DMB.
I hear and now confess my toxic sins of masculinity to the Church of feminism in Canada and its pope Justin Trudeau

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I could just as easily counter that some New Atheist who believes that the world would be better off without religion would rise to power and kill religious people, or send any religious person to some "reeducation camp,"...

No, you can't, because that has never happened. Ever. There's no example of that.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Virtually any ideology can be taken to extremism, as proven by communism.

Even Hitler and Stalin whom are often referred to as atheists were not committing their crimes in the name of atheism. If you look at their actual ideologies they were more of a political religion even with some weird beliefs, for example that Germans were superior, that they came from space buried in ice or some shit. But regardless, Hitler was either Christian or was feigning religiosity to exploit the people.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
No, you can't, because that has never happened. Ever. There's no example of that.
Well it's an unlikely but potentially possible hypothetical like the notion that Christianity after having globally progressed for centuries is suddenly going to degenerate back into the dark ages mentality.

Given the trend of Christianity modernizing over the past several centuries how is the notion that Christianity is suddenly going to shift gears and degenerate into a similar level of terrorism a likely or plausible notion?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Even Hitler and Stalin whom are often referred to as atheists were not committing their crimes in the name of atheism. If you look at their actual ideologies they were more of a political religion even with some weird beliefs, for example that Germans were superior, that they came from space buried in ice or some shit. But regardless, Hitler was either Christian or was feigning religiosity to exploit the people.
Oh I wasn't talking about atheism when I said that. I was just saying any ideology can be taken to extremism regardless of whether or not it's religiously rooted.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I hear and now confess my toxic sins of masculinity to the Church of feminism in Canada and its pope Justin Trudeau Bettur.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well it's an unlikely but potentially possible hypothetical like the notion that Christianity after having globally progressed for centuries is suddenly going to degenerate back into the dark ages mentality.

I really don't think it's possible to commit horrible atrocities in the name of atheism. Horrible atrocities throughout history have been done because of ignorance. Witch hunts and the Inquisition are big examples, the holocaust. They were founded on false beliefs. And since atheism really is very science minded and does a great job of stamping out beliefs in things without sufficient evidence it's extremely unlikely. Sure, there's other reasons to kill or hurt people than superstitious religions, but not really on a large scale.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Given the trend of Christianity modernizing over the past several centuries how is the notion that Christianity is suddenly going to shift gears and degenerate into a similar level of terrorism a likely or plausible notion?

Christianity wouldn't be shifting gears. It's still there. There are still plenty of fundamentalists and they are even running for president. Hell, you can't run for president and hope to win unless you claim some sort of religiosity. Ben Carson, Ted Cruz. Mike Pence, our VP is a fundamentalist Christian. And Trump is probably feigning religiosity for his political gain. He doesn't strike me as particularly sincere. And he's trying to roll back all sorts of environmental protection and climate change stuff. He's an ignoramus.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay? And the greater of two evils is still..the greater evil.

At the end of the day, they're both garbage, so why argue over which stinks more?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
At the end of the day, they're both garbage, so why argue over which stinks more?

One of them is committing a shitload of terrorist attacks.

Anyways I just saw this article, so yeah:

Sweden Attack Suspect Had Been Ordered To Leave Country

Originally posted by Surtur
One of them is committing a shitload of terrorist attacks.

That is an argument against all religion, not a specific one.

You would figure since I already had to address nonsense in this thread that people wouldn't continue to act up. I will be issuing temp bans if the issues don't stop.

Ebba, the 11yr old girl killed by muslim truck terrorist in Sweden. Just found out she was deaf, I guess she didn't have a chance to hear it coming. Here a photo of her, since the media isn't even trying to cover her story or show images of her, cause we know it will stir up emotions in the people of Sweden to rise up against this loony government who supports Terrorist!https://i.imgur.com/nuKu9UP.jpg

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Not if you own up to all the dark ages our ancestors went through because of Christianity. Why do you think it was solely/primarily Christianity that was the cause of the Dark Ages? I'd argue that the collapse of the Roman Empire was a far more significant factor, as that brought instability and caused much knowledge to be lost, particularly knowledge that had been collected by previous civilizations like the Ancient Greeks. In fact, the idea that Christianity triggered the Dark Ages is pretty baseless. You can definitely argue that the rigidity of Church did, at times, hinder progress, but there were still many scientists and philosophers who were active during the Medieval times who were also deeply Christian. And regardless, I don't think it's very fair to blame modern day Christians for the action of the Catholic Church centuries ago (a Church which a good number of Christians don't actually recognize as legitimate today).


I would refer you to the post on Quora entitled "Did Christianity cause the Dark Ages?" . There's a good explanation there by a graduate in Medieval Literature.

Following some people's logic, stealing a dime and murdering 30,000 people are both bad, so why argue which is worse?

All of you need to shut the phuck up

Originally posted by Surtur
Anyways I just saw this article, so yeah:

Sweden Attack Suspect Had Been Ordered To Leave Country

So this piece of crap shouldn't even have been there.

Query: if Sweden made a law that stated anyone denied residency would be immediately deported, would people whine about it?

Bonus question: does the Swedish government have the right to withhold information from their own citizens about whether or not this attack had anything to do with Islam? I can't imagine a sane rational person who would say the answer is yes.

Originally posted by Raisen
All of you need to shut the phuck up
It sure is getting tiresome. Still, at least people are being more or less civil.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
It sure is getting tiresome. Still, at least people are being more or less civil. I'm never civil.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'd rather have people who think Jesus is going to come take them to heaven as opposed to people who think they can get to heaven by exploding themselves and a bunch of other people.

Take the case of Paul Jennings Hill. He murdered an abortion doctor (a Prolifer murding someone, now that is irony!) and showed no pity whatsoever even up until his death, even relished the idea of becoming a "martyr" for the cause. Christianity fosters "extremists" also. Maybe not quite to the same magnitude that Islam does, but still the corruption of the mind causing the inability to see reason is the same.

Same way Christians refuse to accept the fact of biological evolution. They believe so firmly that they are unable or unwilling to see reason. It's like being blind to logic. Dangerous.

It's pretty pointless and ridiculous to make baseless assumptions on an impossible scenario, and then declare an 'emergency' . Lol.

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Originally posted by lazybones
It's pretty pointless and ridiculous to make baseless assumptions on an impossible scenario, and then declare an 'emergency' . Lol.

It's not baseless. It's quite confirmed. Why do you assert that it's pointless? It's not pointless at all to point out the outrageous and unfounded beliefs of a large portion of the population.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It's not baseless. It's quite confirmed. Because Harris said so,

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Well, it's one thing to point out beliefs you find outrageous, it's another to declare an 'emergency'. Because whatever you have to say about those beliefs, you can't deny that they're totally benign. If you don't think the world will end, then you have no reason to care.

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Originally posted by lazybones
Because Harris said so,

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No, because I used to be a fundamentalist Christian when I was younger and more ignorant. I grew up in the culture. I know it exists. And there are polls that confirm them to be widely held beliefs.

Originally posted by lazybones
Well, it's one thing to point out beliefs you find outrageous, it's another to declare an 'emergency'. Because whatever you have to say about those beliefs, you can't deny that they're totally benign. If you don't think the world will end, then you have no reason to care.

Not an "emergency." A "moral and intellectual emergency." Big difference. It's not benign. The evidence of which is in the fact that the mode of belief fosters murderers such as Paul Hill as I pointed out earlier. If you think it's benign then please supply some evidence for such an assertion as I have for the opposite stance.

Islam is a great problem. That's easy to see.
And so is Christianity. That's also easy to see.

They may not be equally dangerous, but still dangerous none-the-less. And the combination and clash of the two could prove worse than either one on their own.

Quick google search..



Another link with some charts...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/187955/percentage-christians-drifting-down-high.aspx

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Take the case of Paul Jennings Hill. He murdered an abortion doctor (a Prolifer murding someone, now that is irony!) and showed no pity whatsoever even up until his death, even relished the idea of becoming a "martyr" for the cause. Christianity fosters "extremists" also. Maybe not quite to the same magnitude that Islam does, but still the corruption of the mind causing the inability to see reason is the same.

Same way Christians refuse to accept the fact of biological evolution. They believe so firmly that they are unable or unwilling to see reason. It's like being blind to logic. Dangerous.

Nobody is saying Christians never commit crimes. What is being said is it's quite silly to compare modern day Christians to Islam, when it comes to terror attacks and all around being shitty.

It might be politically correct to say all religions are equally shitty, but it's also 100% false.

It's not that we shouldn't talk about it, but until they begin murdering people at the rate Islamists do? I feel like it's silly to bring up Christians every time the utterly toxic religion that is Islam decides to blow some motherf*ckers up for their fake sky god.

Which always happens. Remember the Pulse nightclub shooting? Yeah, guess how long it took people here to bring up Christianity in a thread about that? Answer: not long. That case actually brought up double deflection possibilities. One route was the "But Christians do this" and the other route was ignoring the Islamic aspect, but focusing on the gun issues.

I dunno, seems like if a Christian murdered a bunch of folk and it seemed like he did it in the name of Christianity..seems like people wouldn't be trying to avoid discussing Christianity. This is why I made the thread about why Islam is so special, because there literally seems to be one set of rules for Islam and another set for..every other religion in existence. I don't like Christianity, but even I can see that in the USA it's far more acceptable to bash Christianity than it is Islam.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody is saying Christians never commit crimes. What is being said is it's quite silly to compare modern day Christians to Islam, when it comes to terror attacks and all around being shitty.

It might be politically correct to say all religions are equally shitty, but it's also 100% false.

I agree the differences are important.

All I'm really pointing out is that it's sort of hypocritical of the US to appose Islam so much (although we don't even frame the conflict in the proper light, which should be against Islam, instead it's against "Terror" when we have our own crazy shit here at home. "Take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (so to speak)

Originally posted by Silent Master
rb6AQShZSiE

Ben Affleck is an idiot.

We oppose it because some very naive people in this country want to just open up the borders for people from the middle east. Clinton wanted to bring in even more refugees.

We see these f*cks exploding themselves in Europe, running people down, all that shit and we do not want that here.

A dishonest tactic the liberals like to use is that nobody has been killed in this country by a terror attack done by anyone from the countries Trump wanted to ban. That is actually true, but do you know what is dishonest? They leave out the fact that over 70 people from those countries were arrested here whilst planning an attack. In other words: people have flat out come here from those countries intending to commit acts of terror, we luckily caught them in time.

What explanation will democrats give once that luck runs out?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
No, because I used to be a fundamentalist Christian when I was younger and more ignorant. I grew up in the culture. I know it exists. And there are polls that confirm them to be widely held beliefs. Well my main point is that those beliefs, however misinformed, don't pose some sort of imminent danger that we should care about. They are also on the decline. Most of those don't even need to be debunked since the evidence is against them. Relentlessly attacking Christians may actually serve to harden those beliefs, if anything.

Well, the beliefs about the world ending imminently are no doubt illogical. But let's face it, the more illogical beliefs like that are held by a minority of Christians, and that minority is declining.

Perhaps I should have been clearer. I accept that those beliefs are not wholesale benign, but they are mostly benign. The evidence for that is simple, religiously motivated attacks by Christians seem to be very rare. That isn't to say they don't happen, though, of course.


Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Quick google search..



Another link with some charts...


Yeah, America is more Christian than most other countries, so what? If a good chunk of them were bloodthirsty fanatics then there would be cause for concern, but that doesn't seem to be remotely the case.

Here is an interesting question: what would this country look like 10 years from now if 50% of the population were Muslims?

Would it be the same country? Would we still have the same freedoms? Would we even still value the same freedoms we value today?

I don't think the problems with modern Christianity and modern Islam can be fairly compared to a plank/speck.

So here is an example of the lack of rationality when it comes to Islam:

Top Swedish Cop to be Investigated for Saying: Expel Extremist Asylum Seekers

No, your eyes are not playing tricks on you. He is being investigated for saying EXTREMISTS should be deported. What in the utter f*ck?

Originally posted by lazybones
But let's face it, the more illogical beliefs like that are held by a minority of Christians, and that minority is declining.

Perhaps I should have been clearer. I accept that those beliefs are not wholesale benign, but they are mostly benign. The evidence for that is simple, religiously motivated attacks by Christians seem to be very rare. That isn't to say they don't happen, though, of course.

I assume you mean a minority compared to the rest of the world? Because here in the States it is by far the majority. And the decline is still slow enough to pose a problem.

Keep in mind, I live in the "Bible Belt" so Christianity here is rampant. It's practically the law.

Originally posted by Surtur
No, your eyes are not playing tricks on you. He is being investigated for saying EXTREMISTS should be deported. What in the utter f*ck?

Deported and sent where?? scared

I'm assuming back to where they came from? But now we've come to the point where saying extremists should be deported is wrong.

It would be different if he said all asylum seekers should be turned back, but he specifically noted only the extremists. So this is absolute insanity. No wonder Sweden isn't willing to tell us if a Muslim was behind the recent attacks.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm never civil.

You're the first one that needs to shut the phuck up

Oh and more recent news: the guy they caught for this attack has admitted it was a terrorist act.

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh and more recent news: the guy they caught for this attack has admitted it was a terrorist act.

Was he able to show his Isis Membership Card and Registration Papers and the official Order of Attack from their Main Offices?

Cause you have to have the correct paper work for it to be an OFFICAL Terrorist Act.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Was he able to show his Isis Membership Card and Registration Papers and the official Order of Attack from their Main Offices?

Cause you have to have the correct paper work for it to be an OFFICAL Terrorist Act.

No, he just shouted "allahu akbarr" and tried to rape the nearest 9 yr. old.

Originally posted by Surtur
No, he just shouted "allahu akbarr" and tried to rape the nearest 9 yr. old.

9 isn't Legal Age of Consent in Germany?

What a bunch of Conservative Prudes they are in Germany.

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh and more recent news: the guy they caught for this attack has admitted it was a terrorist act. Originally posted by Flyattractor
Was he able to show his Isis Membership Card and Registration Papers and the official Order of Attack from their Main Offices?

Cause you have to have the correct paper work for it to be an OFFICAL Terrorist Act. Originally posted by Surtur
No, he just shouted "allahu akbarr" and tried to rape the nearest 9 yr. old. Originally posted by Flyattractor
9 isn't Legal Age of Consent in Germany?

What a bunch of Conservative Prudes they are in Germany.