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Larfleeze (can amped himself):

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/greenlantern/images/e/e7/767424-you_said_super.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090701031211

vs.

Superman Prime:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111163244/3926779-superman+prime.jpg


Who wins this fight?

Prime

GA Prime (as you pictured in your link) or regular Prime?

If it's base Prime, I'd go with Larf since he can amp.

If it's GA Prime, he wins.

Prime.

Superman prime was amped by default. He too much for latfleeze but reg boy prime would get his ass beat

Prime in both.

wellll..... bumpity!

i'd take prime, btw. not sure larf has shown enough offensive output to put him down reliably.

base sbp would be interesting. he still shreds constructs like candy. again, not sure how high larf's offense can go. given some of what prime has laughed off... i'd call superboy prime vs larf a tough call. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
wellll..... bumpity!

i'd take prime, btw. not sure larf has shown enough offensive output to put him down reliably.

base sbp would be interesting. he still shreds constructs like candy. again, not sure how high larf's offense can go. given some of what prime has laughed off... i'd call superboy prime vs larf a tough call. /shrug On one hand, Prime is ridiculously good against energy-based attacks... I'd wager even moreso than anyone else in his class.

On the other hand, we saw a single Guardian go all-out and momentarily overpower Prime(physically), before BFR'ing him with a kamikaze attack:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600391_34.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600392_35.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600393_36.jpg


Suffice to say, Larf is FAR beyond all the Guardians, so I wouldn't necessarily count him out against Prime(especially since he can amp on his Battery here.) /shrug

You think the Guardian overpowered him physically? That seems really inconsistent given that the page prior Prime was literally pushing his fingers through that Guardian's skull after overpowering him with one hand.

I personally always interpreted that scene as Prime being held in place by the other Guardians circling around him because I'm a Clarkbag and I want all versions of Superman to win every thread, but I can see where you're coming from.

Seemed like it to me. I mean, in this panel the Guardian certainly appears to be holding Prime against his will:

https://i.imgur.com/OKP9BG9.jpg

If Prime could have broken free, it seems likely that he would have. I attribute it to the Guardian summoning the sum-total of his energy and simply becoming hyper-powerful in the final moments before the kamikaze.

As for the other Guardians circling around them: I assume they were just containing/localizing the blast so that it didn't inadvertently wipe out the surrounding heroes. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
On one hand, Prime is ridiculously good against energy-based attacks... I'd wager even moreso than anyone else in his class.

On the other hand, we saw a single Guardian go all-out and momentarily overpower Prime(physically), before BFR'ing him with a kamikaze attack:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600391_34.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600392_35.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40600393_36.jpg


Suffice to say, Larf is FAR beyond all the Guardians, so I wouldn't necessarily count him out against Prime(especially since he can amp on his Battery here.) /shrug

You also have to take into account that Lar's because draw back against Prime is that he can't really use his unique constructs to absorb energy like he can vs lanterns. Prime was punching through Lanterns. I doubt any lantern construct wouldn't do better

You're also talking about a guy who can amp his powerlevels to 100,000%, nigh-instantly if he wants to:
https://i.imgur.com/7z145aI.jpg
...Which is obviously not something your typical GLs/Guardians can do.

Also keep in mind that Larf is essentially packing the undiluted power of an entire Corps:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5e5OAW.jpg
...Which is obviously not the type of power your typical GLs/Guardians walk around with.

And as mentioned: the Orange light is > pretty much all other lights in the emotional spectrum, because Larf has conserved its energy over the eons:
https://i.imgur.com/XJycDsJ.jpg


That being said, just because Prime can fodderize GLs doesn't necessarily mean he can fodderize a serious Larf. Imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Seemed like it to me. I mean, in this panel the Guardian certainly appears to be holding Prime against his will:

https://i.imgur.com/OKP9BG9.jpg

If Prime could have broken free, it seems likely that he would have. I attribute it to the Guardian summoning the sum-total of his energy and simply becoming hyper-powerful in the final moments before the kamikaze.

As for the other Guardians circling around them: I assume they were just containing/localizing the blast so that it didn't inadvertently wipe out the surrounding heroes. /shrug

that's how i always interpreted that scene as well. i also think it isn't impossible that the other guardians were also using their power on prime to aid the one who died in keeping him in place along with shielding against the blast. they all seemed to know exactly what that guardian was doing.

i suppose larf could always bfr prime if he had to. prime was pretty intent on destroying all of oa at one point and i'd imagine he was capable of smashing the central battery. this would have been an interesting match had they ever had a chance to meet. i'm still not sure who would take it.

Originally posted by leonidas
that's how i always interpreted that scene as well. i also think it isn't impossible that the other guardians were also using their power on prime to aid the one who died in keeping him in place along with shielding against the blast. they all seemed to know exactly what that guardian was doing.

i suppose larf could always bfr prime if he had to. prime was pretty intent on destroying all of oa at one point and i'd imagine he was capable of smashing the central battery. this would have been an interesting match had they ever had a chance to meet. i'm still not sure who would take it.

I think that's reading too much into it. if the Guardians had the power to actually defeat Prime, i'm sure they would have

instead, they brought their champion Ion.

They did have the power to defeat Prime... It just required one of them committing suicide to do so. Hence the Guardian's comment just before the kamikaze attack: "it is you finally playing with a power that eclipses your own."

They just wanted Ion to have a go at him first, me thinks.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think that's reading too much into it. if the Guardians had the power to actually defeat Prime, i'm sure they would have

instead, they brought their champion Ion.

yeah, it's pretty clear they at least THOUGHT they had the power to beat him--they just weren't more than likely too thrilled that one of them would have to DIE to unleash that power. i'd have tried ion first too instead of committing suicide....

of course as it turned out it STILL wasn't enough, because, well, prime.....

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, it's pretty clear they at least THOUGHT they had the power to beat him--they just weren't more than likely too thrilled that one of them would have to DIE to unleash that power. i'd have tried ion first too instead of committing suicide....

of course as it turned out it STILL wasn't enough, because, well, prime.....
it's not even that. That suicide attack didn't seem to kill him. We aren't sure what happened entirely but clearly his absorbed most of that.

I'm trying to address (not good at this) that the guardians weren't at his level. If they can match him physically, we would have seen that. I don't think there is a panel out in DC that shows a guardian physically THAT strong. To suggest that based on that panel, they can match him in strength...just no way.

ohhh, i see. i tend to agree, which is why i think it was both the guardian amping himself getting ready to blow, AND some assistance from the guardians outside that helped keep prime in place as well as shield. there is no basis for that belief, but i always found it a little strange that that guardian was able to latch on to him too. galan's interpretation is likely correct, but assuming the others guardians were adding some help isn't unreasonable i don't think.

Originally posted by Galan007
They did have the power to defeat Prime... It just required one of them committing suicide to do so. Hence the Guardian's comment just before the kamikaze attack: "it is you finally playing with a power that eclipses your own."

They just wanted Ion to have a go at him first, me thinks.
Defeat? I don't know. At the end, who paid the cost. He got teleported, absorbed a portion of their powers, and a guardian died. I don't think they could have killed him.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
it's not even that. That suicide attack didn't seem to kill him. We aren't sure what happened entirely but clearly his absorbed most of that.

I'm trying to address (not good at this) that the guardians weren't at his level. If they can match him physically, we would have seen that. I don't think there is a panel out in DC that shows a guardian physically THAT strong. To suggest that based on that panel, they can match him in strength...just no way.
What are you talking about? The Guardian overpowered Prime when he got serious but he need to do something like that again to prove it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are you talking about? The Guardian overpowered Prime when he got serious but he need to do something like that again to prove it?


Are you really trying to argue that a Guardian is physically able to overpower Superboy Prime?

Whats more likely...
11 Guardians are realizing they can't defeat Prime without massive casualties; one of those guardians decided to suicide Vegeta style believe the detonation would kill prime;

OR

11 Guardians can all become serious and each one of them can over-power prime but they decide not. Instead they allow one of Guardian to become serious killing himself while the others make a circle of friendship

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Are you really trying to argue that a Guardian is physically able to overpower Superboy Prime?

Yes, because that's what is shown in the comic.

Sorry, not dealing in fanfiction here. Do you have any proof of this or are you just making shit up?

I personally think was guardian's sacrificing generate energy overpowered superboy-prime

Similar like doomsday case,in its own annual,one guardian did the same thing to defeating doomsday

I interpret it's like an energy suddenly surging
So,should be guardian all power(include his own life energy)>SBP>standard guardians,IMO

I liken the Guardian briefly overpowering Prime to when Beta Rey Bill decouples: he gets a huge boost of power for a brief period of time...then goes critical mass and kablooey.
Moreover, characters are typically given huge feats before they are killed- see Supergirl "almost killing" Anti-Monitor during COIE, for example. srug


I think if the other Guardians weren't there to contain the kamikaze, it would have likely killed the surrounding heroes, as a Guardian's detonation is quite violent when it's not localized like that(as we saw when the Guardian kamikaze'd against Doomsday.) I don't think they were doing anything else but containing the blast.