Darth Lachris vs Coleman Trebor

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Beniboybling
Is Lachris politically embittered enough to win?

MythLord
Trebor, honestly.

TheMuser
Trebor cut through waves of droids IIRC he should stomp so hard it hurts.

Fated Xtasy
Lachris?
La-Chris

really?

Beniboybling
Yeah, Trebor even has a better name. GG.

Total Warrior
Lachris was above average jedi master level imo. So i give the nod to her

MythLord
Coleman is also above average Jedi Master level. It's required to be above that to become a member of the Jedi High Council.

Selenial
Originally posted by MythLord
Coleman is also above average Jedi Master level. It's required to be above that to become a member of the Jedi High Council.

Garbage argument, he's specifically noted to be on the council because of his diplomatic abilities and nothing to do with his mastery of a blade or the force.

He's still above your average master though, and definitely better than Lachris smile

Beniboybling
Coleman preferred aggressive negotiations smh.

MythLord
Threats Of The Galaxy establishes that every member of the Jedi Council has to be amongst the best Jedi Masters have to offer, so logically Coleman should still be above the average Jedi Master, diplomatic abilities notwithstanding.

Beniboybling
Quote?

Selenial
Originally posted by MythLord
Threats Of The Galaxy establishes that every member of the Jedi Council has to be amongst the best Jedi Masters have to offer, so logically Coleman should still be above the average Jedi Master, diplomatic abilities notwithstanding.

But Coleman Trebor is legitimately singled out as an exception to the rule in other sources, lmao.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by MythLord
Coleman is also above average Jedi Master level. It's required to be above that to become a member of the Jedi High Council.

Hm? Source? Cause the Jedi High Council only appointed Trebor because of his ability to communicate with different alien species and resolving conflict through peace and noted that he wasn't as much a fighter as he was a diplomat.

...Of course then it also says he's capable of defeating most adversaries without even activating his lightsaber, so I guess not being much a fighter is in relation to his ridiculously high diplomacy skill level, not that his fighting ability sucks.

He was also a Soresu user...so if what you say is accurate, then his death makes less sense than it already did....which is to say it didn't make any sense at all.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Quote?

Not sure it's a direct quote(unless I'm not looking it the right area), but I guess more an implied one. There is a quote says not every Jedi Master is appointed to the High Council, but said Jedi Master none the less are considered ultimate authorities regarding matters of The Force and being true masters of it, that their wisdom and knowledge is usually unparalleled.

If that's the case, then it seems that yeah, a Jedi Council Member would have to be a step up from a regular Jedi Master. Though not sure this would apply to Trebor, seeing as he was appointed to the Council due to his political skill and the like...not saying he wouldn't have great wisdom and knowledge though...so perhaps yes even still.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Zenwolf


He was also a Soresu user...so if what you say is accurate, then his death makes less sense than it already did....which is to say it didn't make any sense at all.

So he can react at lighspeed?

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
So he can react at lighspeed?

What? Where's that coming from out of my post?

TheMuser
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
So he can react at lighspeed?

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.MB7QRzzWk9HkZeywZES4MQEsDh&w=288&h=216&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by TheMuser
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.MB7QRzzWk9HkZeywZES4MQEsDh&w=288&h=216&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7
I wasn't making an argument, I was making a joke

Total Warrior

MythLord
Great feat for Jango Fett, honestly, not a bad one for Coleman.

Zenwolf
Tbh that was more PIS than an actual feat, you can't really make sense of it at all.

https://j.gifs.com/8qyJE3.gif

His focus is on Dooku, he immediately turns and deflects two simultaneous bolts shot at him that came at him when he wasn't even having his attention on Jango.

There's a delay for Jango's 3rd shot(a smidge longer than his first 2 simultaneous shots) and Trebor gets hit because.....why? There's literally no reason for him to have been shot, when he had previously deflected 2 bolts when he wasn't even paying attention to Jango. The delay on Jango's 3rd shot should have been easier to deflect than the first 2.

This is just using the movie alone, looking into the Legends behind Trebor, his death makes even less sense.

Rockydonovang
when deflecting the second shot trebor seems to have compromised himself position wise

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
when deflecting the second shot trebor seems to have compromised himself position wise

He still should have been fast enough to deflect a 3rd shot, if he was able to deflect 2 shots immediately after one another, a 3rd shouldn't have been much an issue since now his focus was on Jango and not on Dooku.

His 3rd shot was delayed by half a second, compared to the 1st two shots Jango fired that came right after one another, it shouldn't have been an issue for Trebor to deflect it.

But if you really, really want to go with that from just a movie standpoint? Then....ok I guess. Don't really see it myself, but ok go for it.

But Legends Trebor, there is 0 reason why he should have died. Like none at all if he was a Soresu Master, deflecting blaster shots should be childs play for him.

Rockydonovang
well in legends even windu had a hard time deflecting windu's shot. Granted he doesn't use soresu but its windu

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
well in legends even windu had a hard time deflecting windu's shot. Granted he doesn't use soresu but its windu

Yet someone low such as fallen Padawan Komari Vosa was able to deflect Jango's shots pretty effortlessly while laughing and he was using both of his blaster pistols.

Windu especially Windu, should have 0 issues with deflecting Jango's shots.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yet someone low such as fallen Padawan Komari Vosa was able to deflect Jango's shots pretty effortlessly while laughing and he was using both of his blaster pistols.

Windu especially Windu, should have 0 issues with deflecting Jango's shots.
vosa beat maul. Maul stalemated Windu

vosa>windu

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
vosa beat maul. Maul stalemated Windu

vosa>windu

No she didn't, she held her own against a wounded Maul before losing to him.

MythLord
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yet someone low such as fallen Padawan Komari Vosa

Komari was a fallen padawan due to emotional instability, not neccessarily her lacking skill/power. Her power and skill are held pretty highly by the likes of Tyranus and her showings range from telepathically dominating Force sensitives, to battering Maul with a storm of debris.

So she's better than Trebor(and also Lachris).

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