Wolverine vs. Akuma

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LordofBrooklyn
Wolverine

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dxPilCFFErg/UfRE21jEPsI/AAAAAAAACH4/E8R_elSJGB0/s1600/Wolverine.jpg

VERSUS

Akuma

http://orig08.deviantart.net/0ae0/f/2011/192/d/9/akuma_street_fighter_by_bifftech-d3n4x5k.png

1)KO
2)TO THE DEATH

RealityWarper
As much as I like Akuma, Wolverine would slice him in half.

Akuma can't dodge everything and Wolverine is quick and skilled enough to connect at least one attack in the first trade of blows which is enough to maim or kill Akuma.

Akuma's best attack is just 15 successive strikes imbued with negative Ki-energy and Wolverine can defend against it via pure instinct like Gen or tank it and survive it thanks to his Adamantium Skeleton and Healing Factor.

Akuma is good but Wolverine wins.

NemeBro
Akuma with essentially no effort.

Akuma can destroy islands with a punch, split mountains in half, vaporize everything in his immediate vicinity with a burst of Ki, is fast enough to travel from the bottom of the ocean to above its surface in a single spinning kick as well as blitz M. Bison (who can outpace his own satellite laser), etc.

There's too much of a difference in scale. Akuma holds every physical advantage save durability.

Dark-Kenshin
Depends on who is writing Wolverine. For example, nuke tanking Wolvy wins . . . eventually.

StiltmanFTW
He survived both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

cdtm
Akuma steals his soul.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He survived both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Wolverine or Akuma ?

Wait...

dvampire
Akuma kills wolverine! They fight beings that can lift rings and a being that covers himself in iron (urien).

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by dvampire
Akuma kills wolverine!

smile

He can't.

dvampire
Akuma will rattle his brain with so much force that he will kill him.

TethAdamTheRock
Akuma destroys the battlefield, unfortunately without knowledge of wolverines claws he gets stabed for the kill.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by dvampire
Akuma will rattle his brain with so much force that he will kill him.

You realize it failed to kill Logan in the past?

RealityWarper
Akuma isn't half the powerful character that most people tries to sell him.

Akuma being my favourite SF character doesn't cloud my judgement.

Wolverines has better feats all around.

dvampire
Wolverine have trouble with Spider-Man or cap. There's no way he'll beat akuma who would wreck a character like urien. Do you believe wolverine can cut through urien's iron body? You think just minor scratches!😳

RealityWarper
Originally posted by dvampire
Wolverine have trouble with Spider-Man or cap. There's no way he'll beat akuma who would wreck a character like urien. Do you believe wolverine can cut through urien's iron body? You think just minor scratches!😳

what the hell is that logic ?

Wolverine's adamantium claws will slice through Akuma's body like a hot knife in butter.

dvampire
The logic is Urien will bully wolverine into submission with no worry of being harmed. Don't have that luxury against Akuma.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by dvampire
The logic is Urien will bully wolverine into submission with no worry of being harmed. Don't have that luxury against Akuma.

Akuma has no feats that gives him a special resistance against Wolverine's claws and so far Ryu & Co are slower in combat than Wolverine.

Akuma only way to win is to dodge the attacks with Ashura Senkuu and spam with Hadoukens...

Wolverine just need to connect an attack once to kill Akuma and his combat experience, combat speed, enhanced senses, durability and healing factor will give him many opportunities to end Akuma quickly.

dvampire
He doesn't need scratch resistance, he's faster and stronger than wolverine. An island crushing punch will end his LIFE. Just a reminder, it's serious business when chRacters like ryu and ken are causing SHOCKWAVES with there blows. Both will **** wolverine up. SERIOUSLY!

RealityWarper
Originally posted by dvampire
He doesn't need scratch resistance,

"Scratch resistance"

It's so surprising that you are trolling XD



Based on ?

Akuma and his opponents are around peak human...




Oh I guess that you mean the Ki-enhanced punch that woke-up the VULCAN in the video game





Akuma fails to one-shot is fellow sparring partner on a daily basis and they don't have combat speed feats, nor combat skills on par will Wolverine.

Nice try at underselling Wolverine thumb up

dvampire
I mean the none above hugo lifting a RING strength koing wolverine or the shockwave blows of ryu and ken from street fight 4 (just the first one, you know because you act slow) knocking the shit out of wolverine.

NemeBro
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Akuma and his opponents are around peak human... Lmao, what a retard.

And yes I get that you're trolling, but your trolling is so transparent only a retard could think it was sufficient. thumb up

RealityWarper
Originally posted by NemeBro
Lmao, what a retard.

Nice to meet you.




I'm not trolling.

I'm sad knowing that you are telling us that you are a retard.

How bad is it ?

How does that make you feel ?

dvampire
Cody bust through a brick wall with ease!😌

RealityWarper
Originally posted by dvampire
Cody bust through a brick wall with ease!😌

Cassandra Cain destroys robots barehanded:

http://imgur.com/a/ZPCbs

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by RealityWarper



Based on ?

Akuma and his opponents are around peak human...


There are versions of akuma that are legit superspeed (oni akuma)

That version destroyed the moon in a punch against Asura

Regular video game akuma is peak human though, but have feats that put him far above

RealityWarper
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
There are versions of akuma that are legit superspeed (oni akuma) that version destroyed the moon in a punch against Asura

Only the comic books can be used as canon \o/

Akuma isn't specially faster than in normal when assuming the Oni form.

The Ashura Senkuu allows to have a fast repositioning basically used as a replacement of the footwork but that's not enough to say that he can defend against everything Wolverine can do against him.




The comic book character is peak human too

dvampire
Show cassandra lift over 40 tons (hugo)? Please join hugo Cassandra?! And get slaugtered like wolverine. That's a warm up punch for Cody, not a big deal for Cody!

RealityWarper
Originally posted by dvampire
Show cassandra lift over 40 tons (hugo)? Please join hugo Cassandra?! And get slaugtered like wolverine. That's a warm up punch for Cody, not a big deal for Cody!

Nobody care how much they lift XD

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
There are versions of akuma that are legit superspeed (oni akuma)

Sure, but using either Oni or Shin Akuma is like using IG or Death-powered Thanos. Against the rules and common sense.

Akuma may very well be able to KO Wolverine, but he shouldn't be able to kill him, unless we use Wolverine with his healing factor disabled completely.

dvampire
Akuma will vaporize wolverine so bad that his healing factor becomes damaged with an hadoken (have any seen the big ass hadoken ryu created?!). Akuma iOS him though. With little effort.

StiltmanFTW
Read some comics, kid. Wolverine's recovered fine from vastly more powerful attacks than any hadouken blast.

dvampire
Yet a tnt blast does a lot of damage to him. Akuma waste him with a punch or BURN (Urien's body can be engulfed in firey energy!) the flesh off of him doing permanent damage given the time it'll take for recovery.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Read some comics, kid. Wolverine's recovered fine from vastly more powerful attacks than any hadouken blast.

He don't read comics or he don't understand what he is reading

StiltmanFTW
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII06.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII07.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII08.jpg

Just a taste of how powerful Wolverine's HF is.

dvampire
Reserve your free? (You lie) so don't post any facts about him, I have enough knowledge to know that tossing a small canister is considered a huge feAt to wolverine. Can't sustain melting for long if akuma feels sorry for him!😏

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by dvampire
I have enough knowledge to know

http://spilltheteashirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/8c4d6950-d4bb-0132-45fe-0ebc4eccb42f.gif

Again, read comics. And stop this Akuma nonsense fanfic.

dvampire
I guess akuma will make it easy for how quick you suppose to take out cap?!😏 Or Spider-Man (Knock his ass out!)?! Nah a shockwave death blow from ryu will kill him. Your marriage won't last (dragon ball)!

NemeBro
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII06.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII07.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_WolverineVsSilverSamuraiII08.jpg

Just a taste of how powerful Wolverine's HF is. Was that blast he healed from supposed to be impressive, or something?

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Shit, **** Akuma, Bison and Chun-Li (both weaker characters) can do better than that.

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45 seconds in. Chun-Li vaporizes what has to be several city blocks or more, and Bison is only a little scuffed. He then uses an attack even more powerful.

Now, I'm not saying Akuma can kill Wolverine through his healing, but the scan you showed is just frankly not particularly impressive compared to what Akuma can dish out.

Akuma would still easily win though. thumb up

Prof. T.C McAbe
Akuma is to arrogant, Wolverine would get in a hit and that's all he really needs, while Akuma would need time to put him down. Wolverine is on par with Akuma in h2h skills (not chi) and has tanked hits from the Hulk. This will be still a very long fight.

dvampire
Akuma sees a baywatch babe and gets to running, but in his way is wolverine mumbling something when Akuma just quickly smacks him into darkness, then saying "GET THE **** OUT OF THE WAAAY."

cdtm
Akuma wins almost as easily as Superman wins over Goku.

RealityWarper
Wolverine slice him in half XD

StiltmanFTW
Well. If he gets a good hit, yeah.

No amount of chi amping will protect Akuma from a direct strike from adamantium claws.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well. If he gets a good hit, yeah.

No amount of chi amping will protect Akuma from a direct strike from adamantium claws.

Akuma isn't that durable anyway.

Street Fighter characters are overwanked because they are very popular but they aren't even close to the level that people wank them at.

StiltmanFTW
I'm more worried about his speed, skill and exotic techniques in particular, tbh.

Mortal Kombat chars are what SF ones want to be when they grow up stick out tongue

NemeBro
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm more worried about his speed, skill and exotic techniques in particular, tbh.

Mortal Kombat chars are what SF ones want to be when they grow up stick out tongue You should be more worried about Akuma angling his fist slightly downward and punching Wolverine under hundreds of tons of earth and stone tbh.

Akuma would also effortlessly kill Johnny Cage. thumb up

Or Shao Kahn for that matter. Even MK gods haven't been portrayed as particularly powerful in their unrestrained forms for ages now.

cdtm
True.

Historically, gods like Shinock did threaten dimensional boundries and such. Hard to tell how much of that is them just being that powerful, vs serious amping from artifacts, such.as that medallion Quanchi tried stealing that made him on par with the gods, or those various artifacts that made Onaga invulnerable..

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm more worried about his speed, skill and exotic techniques in particular, tbh.

Mortal Kombat chars are what SF ones want to be when they grow up stick out tongue

Akuma did bust a good sized island.

That's > mountain busting (You can put a mountain on an island..)

RealityWarper
Originally posted by cdtm
Akuma did bust a good sized island.

That's > mountain busting (You can put a mountain on an island..)

That's in the cinematic of the game and he don't really bust an island.

He puts an hard punch on the ground with Kongou Kokuretsuzan and start an eruption destroying the Island.

That feat is as relevant as the Punisher making a building explode via shooting an explosive...

Wolverine should win at least 8 times out of 10 against Akuma.

His durability, combat experience, combat speed and healing factor making him a deadly foe against Akuma.

Remember that Akuma can't block Wolverine's claws. His best shot is to attack from a distance and even then Wolverine can rush him and slice him in half.

Akuma can delay the fight but he will probably die the majority of the time.

NemeBro
Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's in the cinematic of the game and he don't really bust an island.

He puts an hard punch on the ground with Kongou Kokuretsuzan and start an eruption destroying the Island.

Kongou Kokuretsuzan didn't exist until Street Fighter 3: 2nd Impact.

This is Akuma's feat:

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This is the Kongou Kokuretsuzan:

https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/7/78/Kongou_kokouretsu_zan.gif/revision/latest?cb=20110220041646

Here it is in cutscene format:

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Both showcase ki waves spreading out from his fist, a purple ki updraft from the punch, and him holding his fist to the heavens as preparation for it. None of this was present when he destroyed his island.



I shouldn't really address this tbh, because it doesn't really matter. Forcing a volcano to prematurely erupt with a punch is still a level of strength far beyond Wolverine's.

But can you provide any definitive proof it was a volcano beyond a distant shot of an explosion from the base of the mountain, which could have easily been caused by his punch alone? You seem to be assuming the presence of a volcano and assuming that this eruption is what caused the island to literally disappear, so you're going to need some evidence my friend.



I might be inclined to give Wolverine one win against Akuma purely because Wolverine can kill Akuma with his claws given their feats, but he's so hopelessly outclassed in power I find it unlikely. Wolverine gets manhandled by Spiderman. Akuma is far stronger.



His combat speed is worse than Akuma's, given that Akuma can cross the ocean floor to above the surface within the span of a single kick (while dragging the sunken ship he was kicking in half along with him), and given that he can blitz M. Bison, who himself can intercept his own satellite's laser. Given his far greater physical abilities and versatility he isn't losing this my friend.



And Wolverine can't block Akuma's punches. He's not strong enough.



Wolverine loses. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
If only Logan took punches from someone capable of island leveling.

Oh, wait. Namor.

NemeBro
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If only Logan took punches from someone capable of island leveling.

Oh, wait. Namor. True, and Akuma's punches will not be able to overcome Wolverine's healing factor. thumb up

But Akuma is not just very strong, but is also very fast and skilled, quicker than Namor is typically portrayed and far more well-versed in hand to hand combat. He also is more versatile and has more ranged attacks and destructive power at his disposal.

How would Wolverine handle the Shun Goku Satsu, which destroys the opponent's very soul? Does he have solid showings against attacks like these?

RealityWarper
Originally posted by NemeBro
Kongou Kokuretsuzan didn't exist until Street Fighter 3: 2nd Impact.
This is Akuma's feat:
This is the Kongou Kokuretsuzan:
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/7/78/Kongou_kokouretsu_zan.gif/revision/latest?cb=20110220041646
Here it is in cutscene format:

Both showcase ki waves spreading out from his fist, a purple ki updraft from the punch, and him holding his fist to the heavens as preparation for it. None of this was present when he destroyed his island.

The fist doesn't destroy the island, the fist creates a chain reaction that wake-up a Volcano that destroy the island.
In short the feats coming from the game are irrelevant.

They are more to showcase something spectacular but not really important to gauge the power of a character.

Here is the Island and we clearly see that after the Earthquake the Volcano is destroying the Island as there is fire and smoke:

https://s26.postimg.org/hoxkzsoft/Island_Volcano_Activated.jpg

If you have to address feats, at least have the decency to use the comic books... I don't use the games for a reason or maybe you want to argue that Dan & Akuma are at the same level since Dan can beat Akuma in the game ?



Oh really ?

What information do we have on panel to tell how powerful this punch is and which amount of force is needed to wake-up a Volcano ? Nothing.

There is many comics with Akuma fighting at his best and he is nowhere near doing fatal damages to the other SF peak-humans with his punches.




The evidence is provided above and I will skip any other feats coming from the games coming from your next posts.

I will only rely on the comic books and that's all.




Oh really ?

https://s26.postimg.org/e6q6h5cxl/street_fighter_ii_turbo_012_pg006.jpg

All of this hype and he cannot one-shot Ryu...

The most probable outcome is Akuma suffering fatal damages from Wolverine's claws.

He will probably hurt Logan but not enough to take him down.





He isn't.

Wolverine has feats as hitting people with FTE slashes of his claws.

https://i.imgur.com/a3u7teq.png

Please provide for Akuma XD

As for addressing Akuma's ability to REPOSITION himself with the Ashura Senkuu; that's just a technique that allows Akuma to glide at super-speed and avoid attacks...

Wolverine can deal with it even easier.

He can deal with Nightcrawler's teleportation and time and attack on Speed Demon after all. He just needs to anticipate where Akuma will be, easy.

Nightcrawler:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/4895364-nightcrawler+%282014-%29+001-002.jpg

Speed Demon:

https://i.imgur.com/lh3v04f.png



He was propelling himself to the surface, this has no relevancy to the combat speed which is dealing with X attacks and defences in one page for example.




Let's check M Bison combat speed:

https://s26.postimg.org/sfpsz7rg9/Street_Fighter_II_Turbo_011_2009_noads_themas.jpg


A SINGLE ATTACK IN ONE PAGE ! WOW !

Akuma isn't especially quick in combat neither.

How fast their attack is already showcased in the games ! big grin



Besides the energy projection and the fast repositioning with Ashura Senkuu, Akuma isn't particularly more versatile than Logan...

Physically it is possible that Akuma has more physical strength but so far I don't remember him lifting more than Wolverine nor that does matter in a fight...

Wolverine is far more durable and has an healing facter.

On top of that Wolverine is way quicker in combat and a lot more skilled than Akuma.

One century of experience my friend.



He can but Akuma cannot directly block the claws.



Wolverine wins 8 or 9 times out of 10.

The only way for Akuma to win is to keep the distance...

The Shun Goku Satsu can help but that's just 15 Chi-amped strikes coming from all directions in a few seconds. While it delivers spiritual and physical damages we both knows that Wolverine can heal from both.

Wolverine can deal fatal damages to Akuma in a single slash, that's why he wins.

ScreamPaste
Thought I'd pop in to address this specifically.

The games are the primary canon. You can't just disregard the games if you're going to discuss a video game character. Also what you're describing would be immediately discounted in any video game debate.

The correct response is "did Dan beat Akuma?". There is no canon instance of that happening that I am aware of.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Thought I'd pop in to address this specifically.

The games are the primary canon. You can't just disregard the games if you're going to discuss a video game character. Also what you're describing would be immediately discounted in any video game debate.

The correct response is "did Dan beat Akuma?". There is no canon instance of that happening that I am aware of.

Video game mechanics aren't suitable for versus debates, neither are cinematic scenes with unquantifiable and/or irrelevant content.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Video game mechanics aren't suitable for versus debates, neither are cinematic scenes with unquantifiable and/or irrelevant content.
You don't seem to be following.

Canon events are not mechanics. "Dan _can_ beat Akuma" would be an argument of what's possible through mechanics. "Akuma removed that there island" is an example of a canon event.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You don't seem to be following.

Canon events are not mechanics. "Dan _can_ beat Akuma" would be an argument of what's possible through mechanics. "Akuma removed that there island" is an example of a canon event.

You are the one whom seems not to be following...

"neither are cinematic scenes with unquantifiable and/or irrelevant content. "

EDIT: I have already countered the point of Akuma's cinematics in my answer to Nemebro.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by RealityWarper
You are the one whom seems not to be following...

"neither are cinematic scenes with unquantifiable and/or irrelevant content. "

EDIT: I have already countered the point of Akuma's cinematics in my answer to Nemebro.
Not quite. You attribute the scene to something that you invented for the explanation. There is no mention of a chain reaction in the scene.

Removing an island is not "irrelevant".

RealityWarper
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not quite. You attribute the scene to something that you invented for the explanation. There is no mention of a chain reaction in the scene.

Removing an island is not "irrelevant".

the chain reaction is shown on panel dude.

1) Akuma punch the ground. The Island isn't busted.

2) The Island begin to shake. The Island isn't busted.

3) A volcano explode with smoke and fire from inside the Island. The Island isn't busted and begin to sink.

Punch > Volcano awaken + Earthquake + Smoke & Fire = Chain reaction.

Yes it is irrelevant.

Akuma has unleashed his power many times in a fight and doesn't deal more damages than Marvel peak humans.

Your intention to stick with the cinematics is a Red Herring .

The context is too clouded to use them as face value against other characters.

Either ways I've already proven my point in my answer to Nemebro so your circle jerk will be ignored once and for all.

Have a good day.

Darkstorm Zero
I'm just gonna post Akuma's big 4 canon feats.

First, the island sinker.
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To perform even a chain reaction breakdown, we calculated that it would take a punch of about 25 megatonnes worth of physical force to do this. That is the power of a high end nuclear detonation. And guess what. Akuma was STILL holding back the lions share of his power when doing this. He was not in his Shin or Oni stages.

Next, we have the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan

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Very similar to the Island Sinker, but is an actual special technique used to split Uluru right down the middle lengthwise. That is a split measured in kilometers.

Next up, we have the Tenshou Kaireki Jin

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With this, you can see that Akuma not only surfaces from the ocean twilight to the surface in seconds, by jumping, UNDERWATER, but he does so carrying a sunken cruise ship, and breaking it apart with a single kick. This demonstrates not only impossible physical strength, but speed, and body control. The sheer pressure change from going from that deep in the water to the surface in seconds is astronomically insane. A human's body would have exploded under much less pressure change than that.

And finally, we have the Seikia Kuretsu Ha.

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That is a beam that not only went right into high orbit, it cratered the forest around Akuma with the mere recoil of the attack... That, is insane....

Keep in mind, all these feats, were done with Akuma holding back the lions share of his power, in his base form. And yes, before you denounce anything, these are all canon, these all happened, and have been refferenced by people in later games, so no. these are not governed by game mechanics, These are governed by the games EVENTS.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
And yes, before you denounce anything, these are all canon, these all happened, and have been refferenced by people in later games, so no. these are not governed by game mechanics, These are governed by the games EVENTS.

^This is the crux of what I was explaining.

Riddleboxx04
Wolverine wins Lol.

Wolverine has tanked hits from World War Hulk who's strong enough to demolish planets twice the size of Earth. Akuma is nowhere near strong as Hulk or Thor who Wolverine has taken hits from.

Adamantium claws could easily shred Akuma to pieces as it has cut through Hulk and Thor like butter, Akuma is nowhere near strong as them.

Unless Akuma can crack planets in half he doesn't stand a chance lolololololo.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Riddleboxx04
Wolverine wins Lol.

Wolverine has tanked hits from World War Hulk who's strong enough to demolish planets twice the size of Earth. Akuma is nowhere near strong as Hulk or Thor who Wolverine has taken hits from.

Adamantium claws could easily shred Akuma to pieces as it has cut through Hulk and Thor like butter, Akuma is nowhere near strong as them.

Unless Akuma can crack planets in half he doesn't stand a chance lolololololo.

Wolverine has been defeated and knocked out by a lot less than Thor and Hulk level strikes.

Riddleboxx04
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Wolverine has been defeated and knocked out by a lot less than Thor and Hulk level strikes.

Those people are more powerful and faster than Akuma Lol.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Riddleboxx04
Those people are more powerful and faster than Akuma Lol.

True.

Akuma shit himself against peak humans... LOL

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Riddleboxx04
Those people are more powerful and faster than Akuma Lol.

Are you willing to put that to the test?

ScreamPaste
Spider-Man echoes in the distance~

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by RealityWarper
True.

Akuma shit himself against peak humans... LOL

In what delusion does this exist?

Also, can you give me the name of your dealer? Because the drugs you must be on make you high as a kite in an F5 tornado.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
In what delusion does this exist?

Also, can you give me the name of your dealer? Because the drugs you must be on make you high as a kite in an F5 tornado.

Facts exists.

I'm not debating the version of Akuma that only exist in your head.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Facts exists.

Not in the arguments you presented.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I'm not debating the version of Akuma that only exist in your head.

Oh? Wow, you must really be delusional... Under what extremes did Wolverine survive a soul destroying attack? See, you omit things to suit yourself. I suggest you research both characters before making bone headed statements like this.

StiltmanFTW
Well. He did beat Soulstriker... twice.

1. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1710297-wmd_04_oroboros_dcp_020.jpg
2. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3647733-manifest+1.jpg
3. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/61327/1371644-akillogansnbfw.jpg

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1. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-dd6b0c29750b37973f2b9e6bb650cb32
2. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cf542b7732deb00370aedf451a65bb12

Think what you want of it, but it definitely shows that Logan has developed a significant resistance to soul attacks.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Not in the arguments you presented.



Oh? Wow, you must really be delusional... Under what extremes did Wolverine survive a soul destroying attack? See, you omit things to suit yourself. I suggest you research both characters before making bone headed statements like this.

Make me laugh again please.

StiltmanFTW just addressed that point here:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well. He did beat Soulstriker... twice.

1. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1710297-wmd_04_oroboros_dcp_020.jpg
2. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3647733-manifest+1.jpg
3. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/61327/1371644-akillogansnbfw.jpg

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1. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-dd6b0c29750b37973f2b9e6bb650cb32
2. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cf542b7732deb00370aedf451a65bb12

Think what you want of it, but it definitely shows that Logan has developed a significant resistance to soul attacks.

RealityWarper
Darkstorm Zero, I suggest you research both characters before making bone headed statements like this and posting again. laughing out loud

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well. He did beat Soulstriker... twice.

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Think what you want of it, but it definitely shows that Logan has developed a significant resistance to soul attacks.

Eeeeeh, that seems more mental that spiritual judging from the text. Soulstriker's attacks dredges up bad memories according to Wolverine himself. Thats a little different from having your soul obliterated in a single attack.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3527173-akuma+ability+raging+demon+vs+bison.png

The way that looks reminds me a lot of the Penance Stare.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Make me laugh again please.

StiltmanFTW just addressed that point here:

Yeah. Stiltman put up an argument like a good debater. You didn't. You are a shitposter who couldn't argue with a dog turd in the rain. Huzzah for you Mr Elitist?

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Originally posted by RealityWarper
Darkstorm Zero, I suggest you research both characters before making bone headed statements like this and posting again. laughing out loud

I have. Soulstriker's power is obscure. Not to mention it wasn't any argument you made. So you don't get to shitpost like you won anything.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Eeeeeh, that seems more mental that spiritual judging from the text. Soulstriker's attacks dredges up bad memories according to Wolverine himself..

Soulstriker directly attacks the soul. Period.



The Raging Demon isn't a single attack, it's a succession of 15 chi-amped punches with a "teleportation" between each of them.

I've already countered the teleportation aspect in my last post to Nemebro...



Yeah but that's not the penance stare. That's even easier to counter...





I have put MANY arguments that Nemebro and you failed to counter, because you can't.

I barely demonstrated why Wolverine wins and it's already nearly enough.



Sure. And you are the dog turd in the rain in that picture I presume.



I'm not elitist in that thread.

You aren't even close to reach the minimum required to be a decent debater by normal standards.



I have countered every arguments made by Nemebro in here and I was the one stating that Wolverine can heal from the Raging Demon, which failed to kill many characters...


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=641860&pagenumber=3





Nope. You failed to understand what you was reading.



It isn't. Soulstriker punches the soul. He deals past painful memories as damages. That's really hard to understand. Wow !



Please make more hilarious comments.

Here is what I have said and that Stilt illustrated:

"The Shun Goku Satsu can help but that's just 15 Chi-amped strikes coming from all directions in a few seconds. While it delivers spiritual and physical damages we both knows that Wolverine can heal from both."


I will make a post with more arguments later to separate it from your aggressive and argumentless post. laughing out loud

NemeBro
All right, sorry about the late response, the hurricane and losing power for three days put a stop to a speedy reply.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The fist doesn't destroy the island, the fist creates a chain reaction that wake-up a Volcano that destroy the island.
In short the feats coming from the game are irrelevant.

Even assuming your interpretation of the feat is true, the notion that his punch caused a volcanic eruption rather than crumbled it outright doesn't do anything to support the stance that the game feats "don't count", and no your assertion that the feats aren't usable to gauge the characters' power is completely unfounded.



So no source that actually indicates the presence of a volcano on the island, just the assertion that fire = volcano, ignoring that there doesn't appear to be any actual lava (you know that volcanoes are not filled with fire, but molten rock, right?), and that the explosion could easily have resulted from Akuma's fist, which as we see in the video I posted, was on fire.

Furthermore, your assertion of what happened doesn't fit what we actually see. We actually see Ryu in the water as rocks continue to rain down on him. Implying that the island literally exploded. The only volcanic eruption I can recall even near that scale is Krakatoa, and even that eruption didn't destroy the entire island. If it was the result of a volcanic eruption, one would think that the rocks falling around Ryu would be slagged by the intense heat of the island's lava.

But this is an irrelevant tangent. A punch that can destabilize a completely dormant volcano to the extent that it literally destroys the island itself is still far into the realms of superhuman territory, and vastly beyond Wolverine's own physical strength.



You don't use the actual primary source material because you're an idiot friend. The games are the primary canon, the UDON comics are not. Period.

And Dan never defeated Akuma in any actual storyline event. Is this hard for you to grasp?



More force than Wolverine's fist can generate my friend. Enough force to destabilize the geography of an entire island sufficiently to completely destroy it. thumb up



Prove they are peak human. You actually can't: it's already proven by their ability to survive attacks from Akuma, as well as Chun-Li's forest busting attack I posted earlier, as well as her and basically all the important named characters survival of Bison's attack which exceeded it.




I accept your concession.

I wouldn't worry though. You haven't adequately addressed any of the game feats already posted, so I see no real reason to link more. thumb up



Pretty good on Ryu, he has always been just a tier below the top tiers. thumb up



So an unquantifiable speed feat touted as impressive because of how it's drawn, and not actually anything substantial. How fast do you think those attacks were? 100 meters per second? 200? Kek.

Akuma's submarine feat is better. thumb up

Tell you what though, since you like the comics so much, here you go:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147508/5256425-ryu+feat+speed+%281%29.png

Here we see the peak human Adon throwing "FTE" jabs at Ryu, which Ryu blocks before countering and successfully tripping him up. Adon, being Sagat's toadie, is weaker than Ryu, let alone Akuma.

"That's not a feat from Akuma" lul.



I'm actually reasonably certain that I never mentioned the Ashura Senkuu, so I'm not sure what point you're actually addressing, though maybe I should have.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147508/5256425-ryu+feat+speed+%281%29.png

As seen here, Akuma can avoid Wolverine's claws, the only thing that could actually hurt him, with Ashura Senkuu. thumb up




Nice feat where Wolverine fails to land a single hit on Nightcrawler. thumb up



Now imagine that the punches Wolverine is forced to take from someone faster than him are strong enough to literally bury him a mile under the earth. smile



"Being able to move thousands of feet with a single maneuver while performing an attack has no relevancy to combat speed" lul, get a load of this guy.



A page isn't a time frame. Whew, that was easy to dismiss. thumb up



Right, like in scenes where he moves from the ocean floor to above the surface in a single attack. thumb up



Wolverine is a brick who can't even fly with claws and a healing factor. Akuma is a more powerful brick who can at least glide, turn intangible, use ki for ranged attacks (that can raze forests indirectly) and to enhance his normal attacks, as well as the power to destroy one's soul. No, he's quite a bit more versatile.



Do you imagine that grappling doesn't involve physical strength at all? How stupid must one be to not believe that physical strength factors into a fight.

Oh, and Akuma carried a sunken ship from the ocean floor to the ocean surface with his foot. He's quite a bit stronger.



Sure.



You might want to get around to proving that.



Skill does not matter in the face of overwhelming power.



He could do that, and would easily win. He could also just physically dominate Wolverine and punch him literally into the dirt. Wolverine likely won't die in this fight, but he will lose.

He won't need to use the SGS.

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Wolverine won't even be able to touch Akuma if he doesn't want him to.

Akuma stomps.

Darkstorm Zero
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And now I don't gotta say anything but mockery for Warper, according to him, because I can just hide behind this lovely wall of text.

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Josh_Alexander
Wolverine stomps.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Wolverine stomps. His feet in anger after a humiliating loss.

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StealthRanger
How has this gone on past "Wolverine gets buried several k's underground, regen and skeleton be damned, with a single punch from Akuma"?

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