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Going to try and actually finally get through all of the TOR content and wanted to keep an eye out for the various entities that would be considered the most powerful that the series has to offer.

So if you could post ordered lists that are separated into general tiers, that included all of who would be classified as relative powerhouses that would be really helpful, and try not to post any major spoilers (so I don't need feats for example, just interested in your general rankings).

You can use stuff from any of the pieces of canon TOR media, so of course the game and all its content, and the books and cinematic cutscenes etc. and feel free to post separate lists for Force-users and technological powers.

Valkorion is number 1 as of now, although the six gods could usurp his title, although there's very little context for their accomplishments.

After that there are Revan, the Dread Masters, Soa and others which required the combined effort of large strike teams to defeat, although Revan is probably the one with the most concrete showings and most likely the greatest warrior out of them. So I'll say he's number 2 of the era.

After that, the Outlander is probably the best 1v1 combatant out of the people below Revan, although Vaylin and Arcann are more powerful than him.

That's about it for the top tiers.

The Six Gods collectively should be above Valkorion, and could pick probably stomp him.

Then comes Valkorion.

Then Vaylin, Revan, and the Outlander.

Then Arcann/Dread Masters.

In between are random cosmic beings like Soa, Terror From Beyond, World Razer, etc.

Would all of the Force-using protags be up there? And what about the likes of Malgus and Satele Shan?

Malgus may or may not be making a return in SWTOR pretty soon, so the jury's still out on him.

Satele is arguably sub Act-II HoT.

Originally posted by Azronger
After that, the Outlander is probably the best 1v1 combatant out of the people below Revan, although Vaylin and Arcann are more powerful than him.
I doubt Arcann is more powerful than the Outlander in his prime.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Six Gods collectively should be above Valkorion, and could pick probably stomp him.

Six Gods vs Palpatine, IYO?

^All 6? them.

And there's no way in hell Arcann is more powerful than the Outlander, kek.

Valkorion, Revan, and some Bane tier scrubs.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^All 6? them.

Yis, all 6 vs DE Palpatine

The Gods prevail

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Gods prevail

Interesting. Wrong, but interesting

Sidious throws them in a wormhole.

I have ranked some characters based on official information and implied strength levels in the lore:

TIER 1

Valkorion; Izax; Scyva; Tyth; Aivela; Esne; Nahut

TIER 2

The Outlander; Darth Nox (augmented by power of Force ghosts)*

TIER 3

Vaylin; Revan; Soa

TIER 4

Arcann

TIER 5

Hero of Tython; Darth Jadus

TIER 6

Barsen'thor III; Emperor's Wrath; Darth Malgus; Darth Thanaton; Lord Fulminiss

TIER 7

Darth Marr; Satele Shan; Darth Baras; Darth Nox (base)

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There are some additional powerhouses among Jedi and Sith who will fit in one of the aforementioned TIERS.

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There are some entities which are incredibly powerful but difficult to rank conventionally.

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*Darth Nox eventually released them. Therefore, no grand showings of power from him in newer expansions.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^All 6? them.

And there's no way in hell Arcann is more powerful than the Outlander, kek.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I doubt Arcann is more powerful than the Outlander in his prime.

Valkorion vs Arcann:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8LE0qgLoxsM (1:07)

Valkorion vs the Outlander:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqy53OIwylo (1:39)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTdLy3xO3E (2:50)

hmm

Chained Vaylin is also more powerful than the Outlander:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTfgN-zDiu8 (1:25)

The ****?

Outlander goes on to tank and kill unchained Vaylin.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The ****?

Outlander goes on to tank and kill unchained Vaylin.

Yeah. Proves how inconsistent TOR is.

Gonna say the one that happened latest takes precedence. Outlander murders Arcann.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I have ranked some characters based on official information and implied strength levels in the lore:

TIER 1

Valkorion; Izax; Scyva; Tyth; Aivela; Esne; Nahut

TIER 2

The Outlander; Darth Nox (augmented by power of Force ghosts)*

TIER 3

Vaylin; Revan; Soa

TIER 4

Arcann

TIER 5

Hero of Tython; Darth Jadus

TIER 6

Barsen'thor III; Emperor's Wrath; Darth Malgus; Darth Thanaton; Lord Fulminiss

TIER 7

Darth Marr; Satele Shan; Darth Baras; Darth Nox (base) No.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Gonna say the one that happened latest takes precedence. Outlander murders Arcann.

Valkorion dominating Outlander happened latest, so no. Valkorion also conceded inferiority to both his children as a spirit, so they're definitely >> Outlander in power.

And Vaylin may already have been spent much of her powers. Also, she wasn't directing the attack on Outlander; it was omnidirectional, so the Outlander had to deal with only a small portion of her power.

And what of Tol Braga and Lord Tagriss?

Force strength (including lightsaber combat augmentation):

1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. The Hero of Tython (by KotFE, he was the Emperor's most effective adversary; not necessarily the strongest)
4. Vaylin
The Dread Masters
5. Soa
6. Tassar
7. Adelade
8. Sterla
9. Lord Anril
10. Lord Wrad
11. Darth Malgus
12. Arcann

Originally posted by Azronger
Valkorion dominating Outlander happened latest, so no. Valkorion also conceded inferiority to both his children as a spirit, so they're definitely >> Outlander in power.

And Vaylin may already have been spent much of her powers. Also, she wasn't directing the attack on Outlander; it was omnidirectional, so the Outlander had to deal with only a small portion of her power.

What? Valkorion dominating Outlander happened in KOTFE Chapter 12, way before any of the Vaylin business. Unless you're talking about KOTET Chapter 9, which would be patently retarded to use as an argument, given how much Valkorion had burrowed into the Outlander by that point. And Valkorion never conceded inferiority to his children.

Outlander tanked it for multiple seconds, Arcann was on his ass unconscious. There's no comparison between Arcann and Outlander, lol.

Originally posted by Azronger
And Vaylin may already have been spent much of her powers.
So did the Hero, considering the 8 Knights and Guards Vaylin brought.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Tassar
Adelade
Sterla
Lord Anril
Lord Wrad

Everyone here besides Adelade and Tassar had significant assistance when fighting the Outlander and friends, so nah.

Adelade and Tassar are the only ones who have a claim to being a powerhouse, and even then it's unknown how good they performed.

Originally posted by Geistalt
So did the Hero, considering the 8 Knights and Guards Vaylin brought.

Apologies; she brought 3 Horizon Guards and 6 Skytroopers.

Originally posted by Geistalt
And what of Tol Braga and Lord Tagriss?

Force strength (including lightsaber combat augmentation):

1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. The Hero of Tython (by KotFE, he was the Emperor's most effective adversary; not necessarily the strongest)
4. Vaylin
The Dread Masters
5. Soa
6. Tassar
7. Adelade
8. Sterla
9. Lord Anril
10. Lord Wrad
11. Darth Malgus
12. Arcann
No.

To what?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What? Valkorion dominating Outlander happened in KOTFE Chapter 12, way before any of the Vaylin business. Unless you're talking about KOTET Chapter 9, which would be patently retarded to use as an argument, given how much Valkorion had burrowed into the Outlander by that point. And Valkorion never conceded inferiority to his children.

Outlander tanked it for multiple seconds, Arcann was on his ass unconscious. There's no comparison between Arcann and Outlander, lol.

What are you on about Valkorion "burrowing" into the Outlander? He's been inside his head this whole time and it doesn't excuse his domination of him.

Valkorion conceded inferiority to Arcann in the video I posted, stating that "only together" could he and Outlander defeat him. Valkorion also admitted on another occasion he cannot beat Vaylin and Arcann by himself in spirit form. Note how he can easily disable Vaylin due to her conditioning, so it is likely Arcann could've soloed Valk, per his own admission.

Vaylin caught Arcann off-guard. In the DS version, Lana and Theron are similarly flung back, but suffer no injuries. If the attack was truly capable of tearing through Arcann's barriers, Lana and Theron would've been charred corpses. This is supported by their respective performances against Valkorion.

Arcann > Outlander.

Uhh, yes it does. The whole point of Valkorion entering the Outlander's mind was to burrow into it and hollow it out so that he could dominate it/him. He was anchored to the Outlander, and gained more control over him/her as time progressed.

Valkorion told Outlander a lot of lies, in case you didn't notice. Given that Valk could have taken over the Smuglander and still murked Arcann, it's pretty clear that it's Valkorion's own power that was capable of defeating Arcann. He needed the Outlanderbdcause he wanted a worthy vessel. He lied to the Outlander. Simple.

More ridiculous logic. Why the **** would Arcann not have his guard up against his psychotic, murderous sister, just after fighting her/her guards? Besides, Vaylin has been stated and implied to be much more powerful than Arcann a million-billion times. Outlander surpassed her. Get over it.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Uhh, yes it does. The whole point of Valkorion entering the Outlander's mind was to burrow into it and hollow it out so that he could dominate it/him. He was anchored to the Outlander, and gained more control over him/her as time progressed.

I want more evidence backed up by quotes.



Yeah, he's capable of beating Arcann when he has a vessel to channel his power better. That's how every dark side spirit operates, lmao. Doesn't prove that he was lying in the slightest. Keep trying, though



I don't know, nor do I need to. Now, adress the actual point instead of accusing others of ridiculous logic, which you're employing yourself right now.

Vailyn was chosen by Valkorion to be raised that way because she was the strongest and the one with more potential of the siblings. Senya confirms that as well, when she says "He (Valkorion) never wanted to do anything with them" when reffering to Arcann and Thexan.

Outlander>Vailyn>Arcann is correct.