THE LAST JEDI: Spoilers, Rumors, & Discussion Thread (Read First Post Before Posting)

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DarthAnt66
This will be the thread for all The Last Jedi content - spoilers included. You've been warned.

Let's try to avoid spoiling The Last Jedi material in other threads, even if you have spoiler tags.

Han Solo's death was spoiled for me in the Battle Bar. Let's try not to ruin similar events for other fans.

Since this is a spoiler discussion thread, spoiler tags and precaution are not necessary for most discussions.

However, I still ask for spoiler tags on groundbreaking news, such as the death of a major character, the participants and outcome of a fight scene, or a big revelation.

Fated Xtasy
I wonder if snoke is going to have a fight scene or something

NewGuy01
Just so you know, I haven't read the OP.

chilled monkey
Not sure I'll bother seeing this. I don't read any of the so-called "new canon" books/comics and I don't watch movies much these days.

BTW, still waiting to hear why those videos were "all terrible."

TheNuisanceBird
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Not sure I'll bother seeing this. I don't read any of the so-called "new canon" books/comics and I don't watch movies much these days.

BTW, still waiting to hear why those videos were "all terrible."

The Forcecast ones?

chilled monkey
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
The Forcecast ones?

That's right, specifically these ones here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=640984&pagenumber=2

Just scroll down and you'll see the links.

NewGuy01
Whether or not you appreciate their analyses from a creative standpoint isn't relevant to their accuracy within the boundaries of the established Star Wars universe.

Also, stay on topic, please. Then again, I'm pretty sure the only thing you have to contribute is complaints about things everyone else got over years ago.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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chilled monkey
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Whether or not you appreciate their analyses from a creative standpoint isn't relevant to their accuracy within the boundaries of the established Star Wars universe.

I don't really care about the accuracy or lack thereof. I like the analyses because they help me with my writing. To me that more than makes up for anything else.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, stay on topic, please.

I do wonder why you don't say anything when numerous other threads go off topic and only decide to single out me. Still okay, on topic.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Then again, I'm pretty sure the only thing you have to contribute is complaints about things everyone else got over years ago.

What complaints? All I did was state my opinion that I may not bother seeing this movie as I'm not really interested in it. This is a discussion thread; that discussion doesn't necessarily have to be positive.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by chilled monkey
I don't really care about the accuracy or lack thereof. I like the analyses because they help me with my writing. To me that more than makes up for anything else.

Well then, that makes this wonderfully simple. See, we do. That's why we don't like the videos. Discussion resolved?



There's a difference between discussion points leading off track and people posting stuff from completely unrelated threads for no reason. There's also a difference between trash threads I don't care about and legitimate discussion threads like these.



Of course positivity isn't required. But when your comments for the last several years have only been about how Disney ruined Star Wars for you, they really lose their value as an addition to a conversation.

DarthAnt66
thumb up

Getting back on-track, here's our confirmed fights (outcomes on all are unknown):


Luke Skywalker vs Knights of Ren or Snoke's Royal Guards (actually, it's said Luke cleans house here)

Rey vs Kylo Ren (this fight takes place during Luke's above fight. This is on the island world)

Finn vs Phasma (with a new pike) and two elite First Order stormtroopers

New rumors (not from Making Star Wars though) are saying that Snoke and Leia have a confrontation, but it's merely verbal, not fighting.

NewGuy01
A Leia vs Snoke conversation would be interesting. I wonder if she'll just never show up after that and we'll assume that's how she died.

DarthAnt66
I think Kathy is lying when she's saying that Leia isn't in Episode 9. I think she wants it to be a surprise.

Not sure how I would feel if Snoke kills Leia off-screen... would only work if Luke's death isn't associated with Snoke.

Otherwise Snoke is 2/2 with the original cast.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by DarthAnt66




Finn vs Phasma (with a new pike) and two elite First Order stormtroopers



This doesn't help her image if she has to have two others to fight him.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Zenwolf
This doesn't help her image if she has to have two lackeys to fight him.
It's entirely possible Finn has aid. Not all the details are in. Maybe Poe?

I agree though if it's just Finn vs three of them.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I think Kathy is lying when she's saying that Leia isn't in Episode 9. I think she wants it to be a surprise.

Not sure how I would feel if Snoke kills Leia off-screen... would only work if Luke's death isn't associated with Snoke.

Otherwise Snoke is 2/2 with the original cast.

what if they were all lying when they said carrie fisher died, just to surprise us in 2020

DarthAnt66
She's chillin with Tupac in Russia or some shit. thumb up

Zenwolf
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's entirely possible Finn has aid. Not all the details are in. Maybe Poe?

I agree though if it's just Finn vs three of them.

Eh perhaps, though if it's the latter then...yeah...

DarthAnt66
Apparently there's an alleged leak on a trailer that was shown to some Disney officials.

In it, Snoke says that it is time for a "family reunion," perhaps referring to Leia meeting Kylo.

In another quote, Luke says that "everything dies with us."

In a separate alleged trailer, Luke asks Rey who she is as his opening line in the film.

DarthAnt66
If I had to guess on the story based off of the leaks and rumors:


- Luke and Rey train - kinda. Luke isn't that into it, which surprises Rey. Chewbacca and R2 are present throughout the training.

- The First Order launches massive assaults across the galaxy, including the main Resistance fleet. Leia is captured but Poe and Finn escape.

- Snoke sends Kylo Ren and his Knights of Ren to fight Luke and Rey. Luke cleans house, but Rey and Kylo have a chat that "Luke doesn't like."

- Finn and Poe end up on this Nar-Shaada-esque world. There's a new antagonist here, perhaps linked to Snoke. Phasma is also apparently here.

I think this is just the first half of the movie. I think the second half consists of everyone teaming up to free Leia like the good ol' days, but that's speculation.

If true, then I could certainly see a Luke vs Snoke confrontation as the final fight.

Obviously this isn't going to be the exact order, and there's going to be a lot more that happened (and maybe a lot that didn't), but I bet you some of the above will happen.

DarthAnt66
I forgot I made this. Bump.

Again a reminder to still put major information (as defined in first post) in spoiler tags here, along with a short description so we know what we're looking at.

For example (and purely hypothetical):

Potential fate of major character: Luke Skywalker is killed by Snoke

ChocolateMuesli
whos snoke?

Kurk
Originally posted by ChocolateMuesli
whos snoke? Jar Jar Binks

thesithmaster
Originally posted by Kurk
Jar Jar Binks

Or should I call him Darth Darth Binks?

DarthAnt66
This seems to convey that Luke will be super powerful and have a green lightsaber: https://i.redd.it/u22fu0i8dzgz.png

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This seems to convey that Luke will be super powerful and have a green lightsaber: https://i.redd.it/u22fu0i8dzgz.png
An ant could fit inside there.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This seems to convey that Luke will be super powerful and have a green lightsaber: https://i.redd.it/u22fu0i8dzgz.png

And it also conveys that Rey has better reflexes than Luke. erm

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This seems to convey that Luke will be super powerful and have a green lightsaber: https://i.redd.it/u22fu0i8dzgz.png
Luke and Rey's cars are much bigger than Snoke's. Wonder what that's supposed to convey...

ares834
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And it also conveys that Rey has better reflexes than Luke. erm

No it doesn't.

As for Luke,they may simply be using green because of RotJ. Interestingly, the back of Snoke's package confirms the scar on his forehead is a "battle scar".

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And it also conveys that Rey has better reflexes than Luke. erm

I didn't get that impression.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by ares834
No it doesn't.

As for Luke,they may simply be using green because of RotJ. Interestingly, the back of Snoke's package confirms the scar on his forehead is a "battle scar".
Ares, are you actually taking the conveyed messages of a race car game seriously?

ares834
No, not really.

DarthAnt66
https://i.imgur.com/bZXQzP9.png

Holy!

Trocity
F**k, it's what? 3 or 4 times the size of a SSD?

Rockydonovang
I wanna see Luke telekinetically busting it and then smashing snoke's face with all the pieces

NewGuy01
Okay, so it's a Star Destroyer with half the length of the Death Star. That's pretty wizard, I guess. Why would you want that, though?

DarthAnt66
Snoke seems to have a "bigger is better" attitude about everything. I mean, he's dressed in golden robes.

SunRazer
As long as it doesn't get destroyed by falling into Starkiller Base v2.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by SunRazer
As long as it doesn't get destroyed by falling into Starkiller Base v2.
Luke is going to pull it down onto starkiller base 2 to defeat the empire once and for all and end Disney's unbalancing of the saga smile

Unbowed
Originally posted by Trocity
F**k, it's what? 3 or 4 times the size of a SSD?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Snoke seems to have a "bigger is better" attitude about everything. I mean, he's dressed in golden robes.
It's pretty much canon that he's 3-4 times stronger than Palpatine now. cool

ares834

Selenial
Originally posted by Trocity
F**k, it's what? 3 or 4 times the size of a SSD?

Just under 10, I think.

FreshestSlice
That's the problem with pretty much everything in the ST at this point.

More-MORE-MOAR on everything because if people liked something before, they'll really love more.

DarthAnt66
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/6xdwsi/the_supremacy_engines_and_function/

This explains the functions of the Mega. ^

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Fan-made comparison between ships: http://i.imgur.com/SkjXK2I.png

Emperordmb
I have a theory that Snoke lost his penis and that all of this is his attempt to compensate. Perhaps it was due to the same injuries that disfigured his face, perhaps he doesn't have it in a similar vein that DE Sidious doesn't, and perhaps he butt****ed a dead bird with no condom and got it amputated due to an infection. Either way his massive holograms, planet sized battlestation, and mega star destroyer are attempts to compensate for this loss.

DarthAnt66
https://i.imgur.com/nFFt2ti.png

Zenwolf
I see issues with something that big in design.

Selenial
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://i.imgur.com/nFFt2ti.png

that seems.... off.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I have a theory that Snoke lost his penis and that all of this is his attempt to compensate. Perhaps it was due to the same injuries that disfigured his face, perhaps he doesn't have it in a similar vein that DE Sidious doesn't, and perhaps he butt****ed a dead bird with no condom and got it amputated due to an infection. Either way his massive holograms, planet sized battlestation, and mega star destroyer are attempts to compensate for this loss.
yes
Seems Luke is going to have to put him out of his misery

DarthAnt66
This guy goes through the main two new ships:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Ogcogm9ag

DarthAnt66
http://i.imgur.com/tBa0z1J.jpg

NewGuy01
"theories revealed"

lolwut

Zenwolf
I'm honestly getting sick of this Mace Windu thing...just because we don't see a body, doesn't mean the character survived...he's confirmed as dead in the Atlas book thing.

Snoke being Anakin's father is stupid and ripoff from ESB...even barring that it's still stupid.

Plaguies...meh.

Vanee...eh.

New Character...ok.

TenebrousWay
A 100 km ship. It's tripulation should be on the higher hundred of thousands or even a million.

lmao

DarthAnt66
http://i.imgur.com/mzy5OAx.png

DarthAnt66
The one above looks a lot different than this one: https://i.redd.it/kk232uy1ttcz.jpg

Zenwolf
He looks a lot better than the previous images for sure.

ares834
Yep. Way better.

DarthAnt66
Man, Ares, that's the first you ever used the term 'Snoke" and "better" in the same sentence.

DarthDuelist9
In a promotion compaign for a new scale figure of Kylo Ren in the Last Jedi it's mentioned how he trained after TFA and grew more powerful.

https://out.reddit.com/t3_6ylifn?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fp%2FBYurJFgHWw-%2F& amp;token=AQAAy2GxWdBI_ZQDWoKAJ3H7nVVmxHCpfs9Y4M0i
FlYf7Q22cT4q&app_name=mweb2x

Rebel95
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-the-last-jedi-kylo-ren-figure/#gallery-10
The elite guards are pretty cool looking

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