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TPM Darth Maul and Qui-Gon Jinn. All-out fights, to the death, on neutral ground. Good chemistry/teamwork for Jinn/Maul.

1. ROTS Kit Fisto
2. TCW Savage Opress
3. TCW Darth Maul
4. TCW Anakin Skywalker
5. ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. DD Quinlan Vos (LS)
7. ROTS Count Dooku
8. ROTS Mace Windu

Where do they stop and why?

possibly 5 or 6, definitely stop at 7.

Also surprised at your ranking of dd vos above rots kenobi, its a perfectly fair ranking(far more arguable than people would like to admit), but wouldn't ave expected it

Stops at Dooku, IMO.

They don't get past Kenobi

6.

Dooku

Possibly Anakin. Otherwise Dooku.

Windu

I can see Kenobi taking this. It's grievous all over again

Originally posted by Kurk
I can see Kenobi taking this. It's grievous all over again


Doubt it. Even as of TPM Maul was a level 8 tier duellist same as ROTS Kenobi.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Doubt it. Even as of TPM Maul was a level 8 tier duellist same as ROTS Kenobi. Qui-Gon not getting stomped by Maul despite his vulnerable Ataru defenses doesn't leave me confident in Maul's abilities against a Soresu master.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Doubt it. Even as of TPM Maul was a level 8 tier duellist same as ROTS Kenobi.
being a tier 8 means little to nothing for parity. the tier system was likened to an earthquake scale where tier 7 had a massive difference inside it and tier 8 a even more massive one.

Which is why you can have, tpm maul, tcw maul, tcw kenobi, grevious, rots kenobi, dooku, and mace all on the same tier

Originally posted by Kurk
Qui-Gon not getting stomped by Maul despite his vulnerable Ataru defenses doesn't leave me confident in Maul's abilities against a Soresu master.


1 on 1 Qui-Gon kind of did get stomped.

And Ataru fighters can still defend themselves. Attack in itself is a form of defence.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
being a tier 8 means little to nothing for parity. the tier system was likened to an earthquake scale where tier 7 had a massive difference inside it and tier 8 a even more massive one.

Which is why you can have, tpm maul, tcw maul, tcw kenobi, grevious, rots kenobi, dooku, and mace all on the same tier


Well Fisto is a 7, so I'm not sure where you're getting that Grievous is an 8. But tbh Grievous's top gear differs depending on the medium.

As for the rest they'd all likely put up good Saber fights against each other, except that Mace is called a level 9 in the Making of ROTS. Outside any official medium however Gillard has stated Mace was on the border of an 8 and 9. So presumably still better than the rest of the 8's.

Grevious has stalemaated/outdueled tcw kenobi in almost all their confrontations and has fought evenly with tcw maul on a nexus. If TPM Maul is an 8, logically, grevious via the scling he gets from kenobi, also is.

And fisto vs grveious was circumstantial. For some reason people love ignoring how in the first fight on that episode, grievous was taking on both fisto and his padawan simultaneously as well as a bunch of clones

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1 on 1 Qui-Gon kind of did get stomped.

And Ataru fighters can still defend themselves. Attack in itself is a form of defence. Having to lure someone into a closed space so that they can't properly utilize their form in order to beat them doesn't really suggest a stomp tbh

stop at Obi, guys defences are out of this world

Dooku.

maul never stomped qui gon

8 or clear.

Loses all

Maul can't compete with skilled duelists that aren't Padawans or tired old men

Originally posted by Kurk
Having to lure someone into a closed space so that they can't properly utilize their form in order to beat them doesn't really suggest a stomp tbh


That's nonsense.

Read the novel. Maul was a match for both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan combined.

And 1 v 1 on Tatooine (in an open space), Qui-Gon wasn't fairing well at all, as seen by the way he dropped on the ship completely exhausted.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang


And fisto vs grveious was circumstantial. For some reason people love ignoring how in the first fight on that episode, grievous was taking on both fisto and his padawan simultaneously as well as a bunch of clones


Urm perhaps because even then Grievous never once got the better of Fisto except when he chucked a clone trooper at him.

There was nothing cirumstantial about the second fight.

Given Gillard never named TCW Kenobi as a level 8, but he did name ROTS Kenobi as an 8 (who beat Grievous pretty solidly), and ROTS Fisto as a 7, there's no reason at all to put Grievous at an 8. Not in ROTS and TCW series at least. He may be an 8 in other mediums though where he's fought much better, but it's speculation.

In any case given you love Filoni's comments and take them as pure canon, you have to accept Grievous is inconsistent and can't be straight up placed on a 7 or an 8.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Dooku

there were circumstances with grievous vs fisto btw:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/wollfmyth209/blog/star-wars-misconceptions-kit-fisto-vs-general-grie/129533/

My rating of tcw kenobi is based on his performances(saber wise) vs tcw maul who himself has been confirmed to be more skilled and physiclaly superior to his tpm counterpart who was an 8