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SoR Barsen'thor. ROTS Kenobi.

1. Force only
2. All-out fight

Who wins and why?

Kenobi.

'Thor

kenobi. Thor's best feat power wise don't even surpass early TCW Kenobi's. Heck, even kenobi's showing 3 years post tpm ship wise is arguably comparable to any of barsenthor's.

And off course blade wise thor gets wrecked

Obi wan stomps in all

Originally posted by darthbane77
'Thor

Originally posted by darthbane77
'Thor

Kenobi ragdolls:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...vous-a-1875312/
post #38

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Kenobi ragdolls:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...vous-a-1875312/
post #38 The link isn't working, but no, Kenobi doesn't ragdoll shit.

here, i'll repost it:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/exar-kun-and-qlic-quel-drama-vs-general-greivous-a-1875312/?page=1

And yea this feat incredibly outclasses anything 'thor has to offer here. He wrecks

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
here, i'll repost it:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/exar-kun-and-qlic-quel-drama-vs-general-greivous-a-1875312/?page=1

And yea this feat incredibly outclasses anything 'thor has to offer here. He wrecks It doesn't heavily outclass any of 'Thor's best feats, not even close. But the fight is likely a pretty good one.

What feats do you believe to be remotely comparable? Looking at his threads all I found was him/her blasting apart a large door and hurling a large slab of metal

Kenobi wins Force, in a probably great fight.
Can't see how 'thor can win in All-Out.

Kenobi ragdolls
Originally posted by Rockydonovang

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/exar-kun-and-qlic-quel-drama-vs-general-greivous-a-1875312/?page=1
post #38

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
here, i'll repost it:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/exar-kun-and-qlic-quel-drama-vs-general-greivous-a-1875312/?page=1

And yea this feat incredibly outclasses anything 'thor has to offer here. He wrecks
Bullshit.

An unidentified Jedi managed to collapse two buildings near the position of Darth Malgus, simultaneously. A display of raw power that momentarily stunned even Darth Malgus and he was fighting on the front-lines for years up to this point.

You understand how massive a typical building is in a metropolis on Aldeeran?

Barsen'thor is relatively stronger. And most of his documented feats are at from early stages of his career. We haven't seen the best of his in environmental manipulation so far.

a nobody knight stopped a star destroyer while injured, kenobi is relatively superior.

As for accomplishments in the battlefield; cutting a swath through numerous Children and stalemating First Son (most powerful manifestation of Vitiate outside his Voice) is a demonstration of raw power above the pay-grade of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Not only that but Barsen'thor vanquished greatest threat to the Jedi Order in Lord Vivicar outside Vitiate with his esoteric powers earlier. He was bestowed the title of Barsen'thor for achievements deemed truly remarkable for a Jedi in the first place.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
a nobody knight stopped a star destroyer while injured, kenobi is relatively superior.
Rivi Anu is not a nobody. She was exceptionally strong in the Force but decided to sacrifice herself in that event. Nothing implies that Obi-Wan Kenobi could replicate that showing in her shoes.

And if that is your argument than bear in mind that a young Sith destroyed an entire city bloc in TOR.

As accomplishments go; taking down Anakin-The literal child of the force is inarguably above the paygrade of 'thor. Anakin was the most dangerous man in the galaxy per lucas's authority.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
As accomplishments go; taking down Anakin-The literal child of the force is inarguably above the paygrade of 'thor. Anakin was the most dangerous man in the galaxy per lucas's authority.
You can't be this naive. Anakin Skywalker packed that extraordinary potential but his powers were far from fully developed as of Episode III.

Lord Vivicar jeopardized the safety of the entire Jedi Order by reducing a large number of its members (including hundreds of Jedi Masters) into puppets of his will and he could kill all of them with a single spell (identified as Vivicar's plague). This was a threat that could not be addressed with conventional options like a lightsaber and telekinetic powers alone. Barsen'thor was forced to rediscover and master an esoteric technique of ancient origin to defeat Lord Vivicar. However, this technique took a toll on the well-being of Barsen'thor.

As I pointed out earlier, he was bestowed the label of Barsen'thor for truly remarkable accomplishments.

Obi-Wan.

Anakin was factually on the level of the most powerful sith lord and jedi master in history, was named the greatest jedi killer in history, decisively defeated a superior version of a dude noted to be the third most skilled jedi in the order's history and was close enough to sidious he was considered more dangerous than him.

Not that any of the above is needed here. Kenobi has a vastly superior tk showing to 'thor as of his prime, better showings pre-prime and via the blade completely outclasses 'thor.

Thor's best showing is blasting a massive door with strain, Kenobi has cloaked held together and landed and in his prime was wrecking numerous 500 m megaliths.

Kenobi is better

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Anakin was factually on the level of the most powerful sith lord and jedi master in history, was named the greatest jedi killer in history, decisively defeated a superior version of a dude noted to be the third most skilled jedi in the order's history and was close enough to sidious he was considered more dangerous than him.
Whom you are trying to fool with that hype? Do you think I am oblivious to the story and capabilities of Anakin Skywalker?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Not that any of the above is needed here. Kenobi has a vastly superior tk showing to 'thor as of his prime, better showings pre-prime and via the blade completely outclasses 'thor.

Thor's best showing is blasting a massive door with strain, Kenobi has cloaked held together and landed and in his prime was wrecking numerous 500 m megaliths.

Kenobi is better
First, we don't know anything about the condition of those megaliths; they were supertall but thin structures.

Secondly, you are assuming that we have seen the best of Barsen'thor in environmental manipulation; we have not. Jedi are unlikely to use the Force for destructive ends.

As for that door, you make it sound like as if it was an ordinary door made of wood. If was a BLAST DOOR (a Rakatan structure designed to withstand lot of firepower). Size is not much of a factor here but durability of the structure in question and the relative ease with which Barsen'thor destroyed it. On top of this, this development took place during the start of Barsen'thor's career (years before his prime).

You have no sense of scale and assessing quality.

Kenobi.

Kenobi stomps

Barsen'thor wins, defeating Lord Vivicar amped with hundreds of Jedi Masters and then the First Son, whilst at only a fraction of his full power is pretty clearly above Kenobi.

Oh and defeating a starved, exhausted, conflicted and mentally compromised Vader on Mustafar; when you know his lightsaber techniques inside and out, is far from doing the same thing against Knightfall Vader.

" Lord Vivicar amped with hundreds of Jedi Masters"

?

He was drawing on their power via his plague.

Kenobi, ez.