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meanwhile, when there's a meltdown, nobody has control of the situation beyond imposing media blackouts.

nuclear power will be a viable widespread option when we learn to truly harness it. but it rather seems we're riding a tiger's back and deciding that it's been broken, because it hasn't yet decided to throw us off and tear our throats.

Last I heard late last year, the barrier set up to prevent ground water from mixing in and being contaminated with the irradiated water at Fukushima and then flowing out failed. But yeah, no worries. Nothing wrong with drinking, showering or irrigating crops with radiation infused water. A clever marketing firm could spin this into the next new fancy bottled water. "Fukushima Water: Most Bacteria Can't Even Live In It"

I'm also pretty sure that's it's ill advised for someone to set up permanent residence at Chernobyl and the surrounding area for at least another 20k years (+/- a millennium).

As I've said before

Liquid

Fluoride

Thorium

Reactors

Star Wars isn't real and Spock is a fictional character, nerd!

Beep boop beep

Yeah, nuclear power is awesome. The new-gen reactors especially are ridiculously safe and it's only going to get better once we achieve fusion power.

Nuclear Power ftw. The only real energy option if we're going to sustain a growing population with the future being everyone recharging their electric car and whatnot.

Originally posted by Kurk
Nuclear Power ftw. The only real energy option if we're going to sustain a growing population with the future being everyone recharging their electric car and whatnot.

The Sun is the best nuclear fusion reactor around, so yeah

I still think we should make all the minorities run around in hamster wheels instead.

Jobs and Growth.

I will never trust nuclear power. Chernobyl, Fukushima, 3 mile Island, etc., etc.

I don't care how safe I'm told it is now... It really isn't.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I will never trust nuclear power. Chernobyl, Fukushima, 3 mile Island, etc., etc.

I don't care how safe I'm told it is now... It really isn't.
3 Mile Island shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Fukushima or Chernobyl. It was an accident of a vastly lower magnitude. And what etc. are you talking about? There were really only two major accidents in the history of nuclear power and only one of them was truly catastrophic.

Not sure we can write off Fukushima as not being catastrophic, it's still ongoing and the lack of coverage is concerning, as noted, they failed late last year in stopping ground water from mixing in with the plant's irradiated water with their "barrier" tactic and if that ground water can flow in, it can then flow out again.

There's also been reports of contaminated ocean-life being pulled out in the pacific not too far from the US' West coast.

Nuclear power holds a lot of promise, but unfortunately, human incompetence holds it back from achieving real prominence. More attention should be paid to thorium-based reactors.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure we can write off Fukushima as not being catastrophic, it's still ongoing and the lack of coverage is concerning, as noted, they failed late last year in stopping ground water from mixing in with the plant's irradiated water with their "barrier" tactic and if that ground water can flow in, it can then flow out again.

There's also been reports of contaminated ocean-life being pulled out in the pacific not too far from the US' West coast.
Yeah, it's quite bad, but it didn't require permanently abandoning an entire city and its premises. The amount of radiation released into the environment is only about a 5th of that of Chernobyl and the amount of people affected is also much lower.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Nuclear power holds a lot of promise, but unfortunately, human incompetence holds it back from achieving real prominence. More attention should be paid to thorium-based reactors.
Forget the thorium stuff and let's move on straight to fusion.

yes, fusion energy ftw Originally posted by Robtard
The Sun is the best nuclear fusion reactor around, so yeah
Yeah tell me that when solar panels work when it's cloudy and when they're cheap to obtain.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
3 Mile Island shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Fukushima or Chernobyl. It was an accident of a vastly lower magnitude. And what etc. are you talking about? There were really only two major accidents in the history of nuclear power and only one of them was truly catastrophic.

I just picked the 3 Best known here's a list of accidents by country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

enjoy kid.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I just picked the 3 Best known here's a list of accidents by country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

enjoy kid.
Yes, and 99% of those are minor accidents that rate 0 to 2 on the INES scale. Compared to other popular means of power generation, nuclear has a superb safety record even with old, outdated reactors.

Can't think pf other power sources that leave areas uninhabitable when they do go wrong... Enlighten me...

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Can't think pf other power sources that leave areas uninhabitable when they do go wrong... Enlighten me...
Only nuclear can really leave entire areas uninhabitable, but it has to go truly spectacularly wrong for that to happen. There has only been 1 such accident(not counting Fukushima here as the radiation levels are safe as close as 2km to the plant) in over 6 decades of nuclear power.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Only nuclear can really leave entire areas uninhabitable, but it has to go truly spectacularly wrong for that to happen. There has only been 1 such accident(not counting Fukushima here as the radiation levels are safe as close as 2km to the plant) in over 6 decades of nuclear power.

And a lot of near misses, untested designs, proliferation, cyber attacks, human error can never really be considered safe. Then you have the waste that has to be got rid of and remains radioactive for a very long time.

You take the risk, however with desertification certainly going to happen and the improvements in photoelectric effect systems, etc. Seems an unneeded risk. When I was much younger, don't ask why I had a Geiger counter down where the nuclear subs used to be in Portsmouth before they all went to Scotland in the UK. Background radian was years after the subs had left six times as high. Now, remember tidal sink effect was going on, and it was still that high... I've also taken a Geiger counter to the microhabitat off Kent's reactor... Not as safe as you would expect.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
And a lot of near misses, untested designs, proliferation, cyber attacks, human error can never really be considered safe. Then you have the waste that has to be got rid of and remains radioactive for a very long time.

You take the risk, however with desertification certainly going to happen and the improvements in photoelectric effect systems, etc. Seems an unneeded risk. When I was much younger, don't ask why I had a Geiger counter down where the nuclear subs used to be in Portsmouth before they all went to Scotland in the UK. Background radian was years after the subs had left six times as high. Now, remember tidal sink effect was going on, and it was still that high... I've also taken a Geiger counter to the microhabitat off Kent's reactor... Not as safe as you would expect.
By that standard, nothing can really be considered safe. As for the waste, it needs to be stored safely or even destroyed.

Nuclear power doesn't really contribute to desertification. I'm not sure what you mean by photoelectric effect systems, but if you mean solar power, then it's still basically a pipe dream. Out of curiosity, how many microsieverts were you getting on your Geiger counter?

Lets see, 92 posts..


I "guess" the Op isn't a covert marketer being paid to post on message boards. His post sure smells funny though, at a time when pro-nuclear power arguments have popped up in every editorial section of every newspaper, and stories in every magazine and online blog (One had a professor blog about how he stood right in front of an air vent to prove how harmless it is), so there's definately a push to "normalize" the concept to the public..

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
By that standard, nothing can really be considered safe. As for the waste, it needs to be stored safely or even destroyed.

Nuclear power doesn't contribute to desertification. I'm not sure what you mean by photoelectric effect systems, but if you mean solar power, then it's still basically a pipe dream. Out of curiosity, how many microsieverts were you getting on your Geiger counter?

About 30 mSv in Portsmouth that severely increases cancer risk and about 42 in Kent. Re: Desertification and the photoelectric effect. Desertification will push clouds high and away from the belt between the Tropic of Cancer and northern Spain. Yeah, all solar cells create a pd via variants of the classic photoelectric effect experiment.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
About 30 mSv in Portsmouth that severely increases cancer risk and about 42 in Kent. Re: Desertification and the photoelectric effect. Desertification will push clouds high and away from the belt between the Tropic of Cancer and northern Spain. Yeah, all solar cells create a pd via variants of the classic photoelectric effect experiment.
Did you inform the authorities about the elevated radiation levels? 30 and 42mSv is quite high.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Did you inform the authorities about the elevated radiation levels? 30 and 42mSv is quite high.

Yes, but they are aware and make excuses. Nothing wil ever find it's way to a news source and trust me, like with pollution levels. Nothing to see here, move along...

I think its funny that the Country with the WORST Nuke Disaster was run in a Leftist Progressive Socialist Country. Which just goes to show you that Leftists can't run ANYTHING with out F-ing it up.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Yes, but they are aware and make excuses. Nothing wil ever find it's way to a news source and trust me, like with pollution levels. Nothing to see here, move along...
I find it hard to believe that they'd just ignore it because the radiation levels you reported are 20-40 times higher than in freakin' Pripyat.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I find it hard to believe that they'd just ignore it because the radiation levels you reported are 20-40 times higher than in freakin' Pripyat.


You would be shocked if you took a Geiger counter to your average hospital and just wandered round near nuclear medicine for an hour.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I find it hard to believe that they'd just ignore it because the radiation levels you reported are 20-40 times higher than in freakin' Pripyat.

Why is it hard to believe when it's in the government's best interest to ignore it. Cancer rates rising a bit in an area and possibly settling a lawsuit here/there without admitting fault is cheaper than quarantining off a large area and cleaning it up. You can see radiation and it's not like people die immediately with those levels Steve noted, out of sight out of mind.

Its actually not the worst thing I can relay either. A school in the uk had a degrading beta emitter next to a drinks machine vending soda. It had it in a cupbourd next to it for two years. I shit you not...

Question about Solar Panels. Arent't they nearly IMPOSSIBLE to dispose of after they get all used up? Like aren't they made up of HIGHLY Toxic Materials?

ya know...what with them being just another Leftist Hypocritical device.