Marka Ragnos vs. Darth Vader.

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The Merchant
Vader just reached the Imperial base on Endor, ready to pick up Luke to take him to the DS 2. Instead, he sees corpses of imperials dead, the only one standing is Marka Ragnos. Who wins?

Tondemonai
If Vader closes the gap quickly enough he wins. Otherwise Ragnos

darthbane77
Ragnos

AncientPower
Gotta give it to Ragnos, he's a lot more powerful than Karness Muur or Ajunta Pall and Vader in his prime is at best an equal for Prime Muur.

MythLord
Vader.

Beniboybling
Vader kills this hyped up clown. sad

Azronger
Vader stomps.

FreshestSlice
Vader. Not even close.

Ursumeles
Vader.

GMLukeSWEB
Ragnos lol.
What is wrong with you Vader fanboys

Azronger
If it's apparently fanboyism to declare Vader the victor, there must be pretty strong evidence for Ragnos winning. I'm curious to hear a case for him.

Beniboybling
A choice selection of conjecture and wishful thinking. sad

GMLukeSWEB
Vader coudnt beat Ragnos.Seems you need to do more research..

Azronger
They never fought.

GMLukeSWEB
No sith.. Just write down Marka Ragnos respect thread
Study it a little

Total Warrior
Vader without much trouble tbh, he would win easily

Trocity
Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
No sith.. Just write down Marka Ragnos respect thread
Study it a little

what about naga shadow?

MythLord
Write down Vader Respect Thread, see what happens. Study a little.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
No sith.. Just write down Marka Ragnos respect thread
Study it a little laughing out loud

GMLukeSWEB
You think I havent studied it?Cancer cancer everywheree

Beniboybling
Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
You think I havent studied it?Cancer cancer everywheree study it a little more pal. maybe you didn't write it down properly

carthage
Vader stomps

GMLukeSWEB
I did.And you know what?He has no things that really put him above Ragnod.FA Luke says if Ragnos returns the whole New Jedi order will have to try to stop him.Thats how powerful he is.Luke alone would have a really hard time.And Luke would ruin Vader

Beniboybling
Luke doesn't know shit about Ragnos and blows every threat out of proportion, he was put down by Jaden Korr lmao.

GMLukeSWEB
Ragnos is extremely powerful he would overthrow Vader without much problem.How does Vader win??

Beniboybling
Dunno man, he makes a wish?

GMLukeSWEB
Come on.Prove it.Waiting.

MythLord
How 'bout you actually make a coherent case for Ragnos?

GMLukeSWEB

Beniboybling
Did you just copy + paste Nova's respect thread. mmm

GMLukeSWEB
Based on this thread,Marka wins like it or not

GMLukeSWEB
Luke doesn't know a shit???He,GM Luke, fears Ragnos if he is resurected.Luke is one of the wisest Jedi ever

Tondemonai
@LukeSWEB who are you in SWEB?

GMLukeSWEB
Why do you ask lol @Tondemonai

Tondemonai
Because I'm curious. I'm Julian, the one who's going to be doing the KFV post that everyone has need waiting for

GMLukeSWEB
Ohh I know you big grin.I am Stjepan lol

MythLord
Go away Stjepan.

Wait... where are you from? It's not Croatia, is it!?

GMLukeSWEB
I am from Croatia.And Luke statement proves everything.

Tondemonai
It really doesn't. He doesn't know jack shit about Ragnos, and he way overhyps the threat opponents pose. He said (roughly) the same about Kun, Lumiya, and Krayt

Beniboybling
Ragnos is sub-Bane tier yeah.

Tondemonai
Bane being ~ ANH Vader smile

GMLukeSWEB
Luke has fear of Ragnis returning.Luke,the one who would win no problem against Vader.Ragnos is atleast 10-20% more powerful.

GMLukeSWEB
Ragnos*

Tondemonai
He didn't even understand what would happen if Ragnos returned.

GMLukeSWEB
Who are you talking about?Luke or lol

MythLord
Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
I am from Croatia.

Knew it! I'm from Serbia, myself... Where does that leave us?

Originally posted by GMLukeSWEB
And Luke statement proves everything.

Luke thought Ben Kenobi was more powerful than Sidious and Brakiss was a challenge, yet Ben gets stomped by Sheev and Brakiss got stomped by Luke... His words mean nothing, especially when compared to Ragnos who he knows next to nothing about.

Plus, the statement itself is vague; he's a threat to the New Jedi Order, but in what way? As in he can solo the entire Order? Not likely. He's probably referring to his millitary might, strategic genius and battlefield strength given Ragnos has a reputation as a cunning Sith Lord, with considerable army-leading skills and also has a vast number of followers ready to fight for him.

GMLukeSWEB
New Jedi order thing is correct.But depends from point of view.It might be like KFV situation,but I find it like this.Luke only "fears" Ragnos because he doesnt want any threats until the Order is "stabile".

MythLord
Indeed, there's a lot of variables for Luke fearing Marka and his cult besides Marka being uber stronk. Honestly, Luke is already more powerful than Exar Kun, who in turn is more powerful than Marka, at this point so I doubt Ragnos could legitimately beat him or anything.

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