Darth Vader/Ahsoka Tano vs. Count Dooku/Darth Malgus

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carthage
Who wins

Emperordmb
I'm gonna go team one with Vader as the MVP

MythLord
Vader > Dooku and Tano > Malgus. Clearly, team 1 wins.

Rockydonovang
malgus is a weak link

TenebrousWay
Team 2.

Rockydonovang
Malgus as the only tcw maul level fighter here is a weak link that gets wrecked by either member of team 1

TenebrousWay
Malgus > any Maul. Don't come with this weak shit here, nigga.

toplel
Feats for prime Ahsoka, anyone?

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Malgus > any Maul. Don't come with this weak shit here, nigga.
rebels maul is in the general range of someone who cna put up a barrier that can tank being in the middle of ship dissolving explosions and when way pre-prime was one of the most skilled dsith lords in history and in the "cheat tier" of 8 which is one above tier 7 which has the best in history. rebels maul wrecks malgus, Ahsoka double wrecks malgus.

Malgus dies
Team 1 wins

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by toplel
Feats for prime Ahsoka, anyone?
contending with a dude who roflstomps malgus on a place implied to boost ds abilities should suffice

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
rebels maul is in the general range of someone who cna put up a barrier that can tank being in the middle of ship dissolving explosions and when way pre-prime was one of the most skilled dsith lords in history and in the "cheat tier" of 8 which is one above tier 7 which has the best in history. rebels maul wrecks malgus, Ahsoka double wrecks malgus.

Malgus dies
Team 1 wins

You mean, the guy Sidious considered to be a disappointment and failure against the guy the same Sidious considered to be a exemplary warrior with unduplicated battlefield feats and actually featuring him in the book that was meant to contain the main tenets of his rule? laughing

toplel
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
contending with a dude who roflstomps malgus on a place implied to boost ds abilities should suffice
How about a link, fancy.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
contending with a dude who roflstomps malgus on a place implied to boost ds abilities should suffice

Vader so roflstomps that Sidious gave him Malgus' journal to inspire the Sith three years after the events of Mustafar. One must wonder why he didn't inspire Vader with the tales of the godly Maul but preferred some dude that lived 3,600 years before just for the lulz. embarrasment

MythLord
So Vader thought Malgus was impressive? That's nice, but he said the same thing about ESB Luke so I'm not sure how much that'll help.

Rockydonovang
@tenebrousway
Wanna explain how that translates to a fight between force users?

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by MythLord
So Vader thought Malgus was impressive? That's nice, but he said the same thing about ESB Luke so I'm not sure how much that'll help.

There's a big difference in considering someone standing five feet from you to be "impressive" and using some legendary figure from 3,600 years ago as inspiration. Especially considering Sidious' praise of Malgus was atemporal and based on a scholarly compilation meant to guide Sidious rulership.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Vader so roflstomps that Sidious gave him Malgus' journal to inspire the Sith three years after the events of Mustafar. One must wonder why he didn't inspire Vader with the tales of the godly Maul but preferred some dude that lived 3,600 years before just for the lulz. embarrasment
Just so we're clear, maul has beating some of the best swordsman in history when significantly pre-prime and being in a tier above the best swordsmen in history,

malgus has being a tool for knowledge to an extremely weak version of vader

yea, malgus is def better

yes

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Just so we're clear, maul has beating some of the best swordsman in history when significantly pre-prime and being in a tier above the best swordsmen in history,

malgus has being a tool for knowledge to an extremely weak version of vader

yea, malgus is def better

yes

Sadly for you, Sidious considers Malgus' battlefield feats to be superior than Maul's. Sadly, he also considered Maul to be a disappointment, while he considered Malgus to be an exemplary warrior, the one who, you know, featured alongside Plagueis and Bane in a book that was meant to guide Sidious in his rule, and the only one who was featured solely due his capacity as a warrior.

Rockydonovang
Er.. when did sids ever send maul on the battlefield? erm

And yea he considered Maul a disappointment because maul had potential to rival sids, potential malgus never had and never came even close to.

And yea, the fact that Bane and Plagueis are placed alongsode each other should tell how meaingless being "placed alongside" those two is. Not that Bane is above maul anyway.

Still posting irrelevant crap. but keep at it.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Er.. when did sids ever send maul on the battlefield? erm

And yea he considered Maul a disappointment because maul had potential to rival sids, potential malgus never had and never came even close to.

And yea, the fact that Bane and Plagueis are placed alongsode each other should tell how meaingless being "placed alongside" those two is. Not that Bane is above maul anyway.

Still posting irrelevant crap. but keep at it.

What happened on Tatooine and during the entire Clone Wars if not Maul fighting people around? o_O

He still considered Vader to be a worthy apprentice despite never reaching his full potential. confused

Lmao. The Book of Sith features particular contribution of Sith in several fields that Sidious considered important to base his rule on. Plagueis was featured due his ability and achievements at studying the Force. Bane was featured due his philosophycal insight that lead to the Rule of Two. Talzin was a featured due her knowledge of Nightsister Magic that Sidious considered intriguing. Malgus was featured due his capabilities as a warrior.

Basically, every field covered on the BoS featured the greatest of their fields, barring Sidious.

Azronger
Canon Vader/Dooku?

Rockydonovang
Maul being sent to personally kill the jedi isn;t the same as leading or fighting aloongside an army in open warfare. Maul was used as an assasin who made sure no word got out about his activities, not a warrior. Maul has rarely straight out led armies into war with sod being an exception, not the rule. Malgus has better battlefield showing sbecause his whole life was spent in open warfare against entire armies while Maul predominatly was sent and sent himself on less vast and covert operations. Maul doing more on the battlefield proves absolutely nothing in terms of a saber duel where maul being able to beat and be placed in a tier above the best in history is above malgus.

Yea, because vader's potential absolutely crapped on sidious's before getting butchered, Maul's didn't. Sti.. a completley moot point because malgus never had that potential and ws never envisioned to be a successor for the reigning dark lord of his era(who sids happens to utterly stomp on).

Yea battlefield prowess doesn't really prove anything in relation to maul who wasn't known for battlefield prowess as he rarely fought openly in the battlefield. Malgus's ability to cut down tons of fodder is nice but doesn't mean anything in relation to maull who's beat the best swordsmen in history.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Maul being sent to personally kill the jedi isn;t the same as leading or fighting aloongside an army in open warfare. Maul was used as an assasin who made sure no word got out about his activities, not a warrior.

Every killing Maul achieved was on a battlefield. This is the definition of the word, don't be ridiculous. A battlefield doesn't mean only massive armies can fight there.



Irrelevant point as discussed above and ridiculously disproven by TCW.



Except that Malgus scales above the best in history as per Sidious accolades.



This is irrelevant to your own point. You stated Maul was a failure and disappointment because he didn't reach his potential, following your faulty interpretation, Vader would be an even greater failure because his potential was much greater than Maul's. Nice contradiction there, bro.



You forgot the part where the guy that defeated Vitiate on a darkside nexus needed the help of his only peer in the Jedi order (and both are miles more powerful than any other Jedi at this point) and the help of two of the most dangerous and resourceful non force sensitive beings of the galaxy to defeat Malgus.



Battlefield prowess includes any fight, including a fight of only two beings. This is the definition of the word. There's also concordance of the sentence, which relates to Malgus as a warrior and not as a commander, leader or general.

NewGuy01
Of course Sidious would be impressed by Malgus's battlefield accomplishments. He, oh I dunno, lead the sacking of the fvcking Jedi Temple, for example. What, did you think Sidious was in awe over his personal feats of beating Ven Zallow and Kao-Cen Darach? laughing out loud

Big Gerald
Either person on Team 1 solos either person on Team 2

Dispray
Vader>Malgus
Ahsoka>Dooku

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