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Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)
Sentry??
Thor
Gladiator
Hercules
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel

Silver Surfer

Wonder Man

Not really sure about Sentry anymore. He's on another level...
Thor through Blue Marvel is very close.
Surfer is strong as heck, but I don't see him as a true "strong man".
Wonder Man sits below.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)

Sentry
Gladiator
Thor/Hercules/Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer

Agree with that. But i would put Silver Surfer above Wonderman.

No, Surfer is not above Simon.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)

High end portrayals

Sentry
Gladiator
Blue Marvel
Hercules
Thor
Wonderman = Beta Ray Bill
Surfer

Blue Marvel
Sentry/Thor/Hercules/Hyperion
Wonder Man/BRBill/Silver Surfer/Gladiator

Originally posted by h1a8
High end portrayals

Sentry
Gladiator
Blue Marvel
Hercules
Thor
Wonderman = Beta Ray Bill
Surfer

Out of curiosity. Herc lifted the heavens, what strength feats does BM have that put him above Herc?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Out of curiosity. Herc lifted the heavens, what strength feats does BM have that put him above Herc?
He has a bunch of class 100 feats, but his best is probably this.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/wmgsbc.jpg




Hercules has him beat featwise though. By far....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He has a bunch of class 100 feats, but his best is probably this.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/wmgsbc.jpg




Hercules has him beat featwise though. By far....

Impressive, CL 100 for sure but I agree on herc having the better feats.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Impressive, CL 100 for sure but I agree on herc having the better feats.


Herc(& Thor) were generating enough pressure to knock a planet out of orbit. And that was just from an arm wrestling match.
http://imgur.com/LmrGdAR.jpg

http://imgur.com/J8FFe6O.jpg

Dont forget:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/10-hercules.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85763/2917730-herc_boast3.jpg

^That never happened.

First one has been in debate here, but second one was a tall tale from Herc.

http://tinyurl.com/ybfwhgdn

And as for the other scene:

http://13thdimension.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/9g-thor356.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
^That never happened.
Its comics, none of it ever happened.

Doesn't really matter whether the Manhattan thing is valid. This feat and the one I posted earlier supersedes that showing.

http://fdzeta.com/imgcache/181431dz.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/2453954-herculese_holds_up_heavens.jpg

Ha, he fell for the old 'chafing firmament' ruse. Oldest trick in the book!

Yeah. Dumb as rocks seeing as Herac wasn't even using his shoulders to rest the "firmament".

Serves them right to get overthrown.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)

Sentry
Thor/Hercules
Gladiator
Blue Marvel
Beta Ray
Wonderman
Silver Surfer

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sentry
Hercules
Gladiator
Wonderman
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel
Wonderman
Silver Surfer (base)

sentry
thor/herc/bill
glads/bm
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wm

thor, herc, bill, glads and bm are all so close as to be basically indistinguishable from each other imo. ss can match strength with any of them imo, if he is amping with the pc. too variable to place him in one spot though. we know he has match hulk on occasion, once even while weakened though. /shrug

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Doesn't really matter whether the Manhattan thing is valid. This feat and the one I posted earlier supersedes that showing.

http://fdzeta.com/imgcache/181431dz.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/2453954-herculese_holds_up_heavens.jpg

The first feat is most likely not Canon since it occurred after the comic was over and was like an added cereal box comic.

This feat isn't a valid feat since nothing would have happened if Hercules would have let go.

Whatever was being held was an illusion.

Originally posted by h1a8
The first feat is most likely not Canon since it occurred after the comic was over and was like an added cereal box comic.

This feat isn't a valid feat since nothing would have happened if Hercules would have let go.

Whatever was being held was an illusion.
Added cereal box comic? You do know that was 616 Herc and Thor right? So to u all secondary stories in comics is non-canon?


So what was the point of Zues punishing Atlas in that way? What is the point of having a character of great strength to stand in that place?

"most likely not canon."

yep, good enough for me.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Added cereal box comic? You do know that was 616 Herc and Thor right? So to u all secondary stories in comics is non-canon?


So what was the point of Zues punishing Atlas in that way? What is the point of having a character of great strength to stand in that place?

That tale was just put in for shits and giggles. It had nothing to with any canon storyline. It was like cereal box comic tale.

Nothing about it makes sense. Nothing would have happened to the sky if Atlas refused to stop holding. That reason alone makes the feat unquantifiable. Atlas could have been exerting 100 tons of force for all we know. The mechanics of the whole feat is unknown.

Originally posted by leonidas
"most likely not canon."

yep, good enough for me.

I was sugarcoating.
It's definitely not canon. Has nothing to do with any storyline. Just a cereal box comic tale after the story was over.

Originally posted by h1a8
That tale was just put in for shits and giggles. It had nothing to with any canon storyline. It was like cereal box comic tale.

Nothing about it makes sense. Nothing would have happened to the sky if Atlas refused to stop holding. That reason alone makes the feat unquantifiable. Atlas could have been exerting 100 tons of force for all we know. The mechanics of the whole feat is unknown.
facepalm

It was a canon story my friend. In fact, Marvel has specifically designated alternate universe characters in their official index whether it be secondary story in a comic or not.

For example... Here in an annual, the index designates Thor from earth-81942 which was a secondary story.
http://imgur.com/AsbYDoi.jpg

Or here in a primary story, a Thor was shown in a future vision and was designated as Thor from earth-3515.
http://imgur.com/DdZb6TU.jpg

Thor 400 where your "cereal box" story takes place designates Thor and Hercules as 616.
http://imgur.com/ResabgC.jpg

So that's that. Just because you don't like the story or feat performed, doesn't mean you can just hand wave it away with baseless reasoning...


As for Herc holding up the heavens, it was obviously unquantifiable. Pretty much along the lines of infinite pages book and pushing world engine. Unquantifiable, but impressive as heck. And not sure where you get that nothing would happen if there was nobody holding up the firmament.

Does anybody know how much the average firmament weighs?

No idea how much one of those weighs. All I know is that in the context of this thread, if you asked Wonder Man to try holding it up he'd pee his pants and go running home to mummy.

Feeb. Last on this particular list by a hilariously wide margin.

Originally posted by wuleecat
No idea how much one of those weighs. All I know is that in the context of this thread, if you asked Wonder Man to try holding it up he'd pee his pants and go running home to mummy.

Feeb. Last on this particular list by a hilariously wide margin.


I usually see those kinds of transcendent feats reserved for the upper class of comic strongmen.

I wouldn't be surprised if any of the the group in this thread(minus Wonder Man) performed that feat. Although for Surfer it would be more believable if it shows him amping his strength.

"Zues".

Seriously, celery?

http://i.imgur.com/ResabgC.jpg

The bio even states that all Thor and Hercules did was shatter a plateau.

It says it shattered the plateau, it doesn't say thats all that happened.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It says it shattered the plateau, it doesn't say thats all that happened.
ermm

The fact that only the shattered plateau is confirmed and not "Planet's orbit" changed is proof enough that's all what happened.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1658587-thorvs.jpg

One writer says "They shattered entiee plateau".

Another said "Count your blessings, they were generating enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit".

Somehow "Planet moving pressure" only shattered a plateau.

Apparently Abhi doesn't know how bios work. Since u know he never uses them....

Btw this is his last ditch attempt to discredit the feat because he used to claim that it wasn't canon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

The fact that only the shattered plateau is confirmed and not "Planet's orbit" changed is proof enough that's all what happened.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1658587-thorvs.jpg

One writer says "They shattered entiee plateau".

Another said "Count your blessings, they were generating enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit".

Somehow "Planet moving pressure" only shattered a plateau.

It's not though. It just points out an event that did happen, which was the shattering of a plateau. That doesn't mean that the insane pressure they generated didn't happen.

The planet can't blow up every time two elites decide to have an arm wrestling match.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It's not though. It just points out an event that did happen, which was the shattering of a plateau. That doesn't mean that the insane pressure they generated didn't happen.

The planet can't blow up every time two elites decide to have an arm wrestling match.
It was banter between two writers about dangling plot threads and what not FFS.

It's literally a hyperbole from one writer. Two elites are not generally shown in that situation.

The only thing that happened was shattering of a plateau confirming that it is even Canon and it happened in future.

One guy can rip away the Midgard Serpent encircling the earth and the other holds up the "firmament"...

Generating enough pressure to knock a planet out of orbit doesn't seem like hyperbole for characters with this level of strength.

How in the f*ck is blatant hyperbole of this magnitude not taken as such? Are people this desperate for feats?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was banter between two writers about dangling plot threads and what not FFS.

It's literally a hyperbole from one writer. Two elites are not generally shown in that situation.

The only thing that happened was shattering of a plateau confirming that it is even Canon and it happened in future.



Oh, ill keep my opinion to its validity aside, the point I'm trying to make it that just because the bio mentioned only the rock formation breaking doesnt mean that's all that happened. Its not the myth buster you're trying to make it seem it is to me, is what I'm saying.

Also Atlas only held the axis mundi which is more like a magical leyline than something physical and its not really a feat of strength.

Somehow a pretty explicit description of an amount of pressure(enough to knock a planet out of orbit) is hyperbolic. You'd think the book was saying "incalculable pressure" or "pressure from a thousand worlds" was being used from all the crying involved.


Oh the tears from blatant butthurt.

It was indeed awfully specific for hyperbole.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh, ill keep my opinion to its validity aside, the point I'm trying to make it that just because the bio mentioned only the rock formation breaking doesnt mean that's all that happened. Its not the myth buster you're trying to make it seem it is to me, is what I'm saying.
It's the only thing which makes it Canon. Of course it does.

It's not up to me to prove it didn't happen.

Um, is there some reason the comic wouldn't make it canon?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Um, is there some reason the comic wouldn't make it canon?
Yes, because its two writers bickering among themselves in a 4th wall breaking story?

It was also set in future that also makes it an alternate reality.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/Thor_400-51.jpg

"A day will come, ages and ages hence."

facepalm

The stylized writing doesn't make it non canon. I already posted the official index making it canon ffs....

You keep throwing things out to see which one sticks. First It's non canon. Next It's hyperbole. Now it's back to non-canon.