Thor Vs Themyscira

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riv6672
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fZ37jdy-g4M/TH7fwu2_WTI/AAAAAAAABKU/X_sxW6nSzKY/s1600/Thor_Simonson.jpg

No prep.
No BFR.
No Wonder Woman.
If classic Thor lands on the island and starts laying waste, do the Amazons have enough on hand to put him down?

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Damborgson
That Island looks very Asgardy.

It just depends to what extent he's willing to use his powers.

riv6672
You'd have to take that up with the artist; thanks for replying.

Digi
Are Amazonians that low on the fodder scale?! I don't know the answer, but I'm a little shocked that this is a debate. I would've assumed an island full of them would wreck any single herald.

TethAdamTheRock
If they are as strong as average asgardians they should be fodder /shrug

riv6672
Originally posted by Digi
Are Amazonians that low on the fodder scale?! I don't know the answer, but I'm a little shocked that this is a debate. I would've assumed an island full of them would wreck any single herald.
See i've no idea, so figured i'd ask, hopefully get some informed opinions.

wuleecat
From what I've seen of their fighting skills in different story arcs, they are very far from cannon fodder and a whole island of them would cause Thor plenty of problems.

DarkSaint85
Presumably a fair few of them are Dianaish level... otherwise how would she be so good?

Of course, she'd beat them - she's meant to be the best of them. But I'd assume she'd had a few Amazons of a similar​ calibre to her, to push her.

Otherwise it'll be like a champion boxer who only ever fights random journeymen.

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Presumably a fair few of them are Dianaish level... otherwise how would she be so good?

Of course, she'd beat them - she's meant to be the best of them. But I'd assume she'd had a few Amazons of a similar​ calibre to her, to push her.

Otherwise it'll be like a champion boxer who only ever fights random journeymen.

Isn't boxing where the champion gets to pick his opponent? I've heard that a few times, as well as read it's the basis for ROCKY. Based on the real life example of Ali picking a guy as an easy fight and almost getting knocked out or something.

DarkSaint85
But to become champion first, you need to work your way to the top.

I can't just, based on all of my fights with the local five year olds in my neighborhood, suddenly have the skills to be called one of the greatest hth combatants in the world.

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But to become champion first, you need to work your way to the top.

I can't just, based on all of my fights with the local five year olds in my neighborhood, suddenly have the skills to be called one of the greatest hth combatants in the world.

Of course you can. You say it on the Internet, therefore it must be true.

riv6672
^^^haha

Guess no one actually knows, though.

wuleecat
Moral of the story? Stop beating up five year-olds and then bragging about it.

Do it in secret.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Presumably a fair few of them are Dianaish level... otherwise how would she be so good?

Of course, she'd beat them - she's meant to be the best of them. But I'd assume she'd had a few Amazons of a similar​ calibre to her, to push her.

Otherwise it'll be like a champion boxer who only ever fights random journeymen.

Hippolyta certainly is comparable. Beat up Hercules in fair combat, and even stood in as Wonder Woman for a time.

riv6672
I liked her as WW! thumb up

Philosophía
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Presumably a fair few of them are Dianaish level... otherwise how would she be so good?

Of course, she'd beat them - she's meant to be the best of them. But I'd assume she'd had a few Amazons of a similar​ calibre to her, to push her.

Otherwise it'll be like a champion boxer who only ever fights random journeymen. In current continuity, Wonder Woman wasn't in possession of super-powers until after she left the island, at which points the gods came and gave her the abilities, while she was in jail

She's Shazam, basically.

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fZ37jdy-g4M/TH7fwu2_WTI/AAAAAAAABKU/X_sxW6nSzKY/s1600/Thor_Simonson.jpg

No prep.
No BFR.
No Wonder Woman.
If classic Thor lands on the island and starts laying waste, do the Amazons have enough on hand to put him down?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28079/1113291-themyscira__03__001__01_.png
If he wants to win, Thor wins. He unleashes a massive planetary level storm..........RIP sexy lesbians.

riv6672
Thanks, Zop & Phil.

leonidas
again, i don't really know how different new themyscira is from the preboot version, but if thor were to ever really go after the island, i don't know that the amazons could stop him. they have access to magic, that's true, but i don't really recall them having any massively offensive weaponry. there are literally thousands of them and sheer numbers could get him i guess. his biggest danger would come from the gods who would almost certainly answer his challenge to the island. they are essentially the landlords of the place. if he attacked them, the gods would almost certainly step in to defend the island and together they would 100% kill thor. some would be a challenge 1 on 1 for him. without interference from the gods (or ww, obviously) he could probably take the island if he wanted it badly enough. but in reality the gods would kill him before he ever had the chance. /shrug

beatboks
Originally posted by leonidas
again, i don't really know how different new themyscira is from the preboot version, but if thor were to ever really go after the island, i don't know that the amazons could stop him. they have access to magic, that's true, but i don't really recall them having any massively offensive weaponry. there are literally thousands of them and sheer numbers could get him i guess. his biggest danger would come from the gods who would almost certainly answer his challenge to the island. they are essentially the landlords of the place. if he attacked them, the gods would almost certainly step in to defend the island and together they would 100% kill thor. some would be a challenge 1 on 1 for him. without interference from the gods (or ww, obviously) he could probably take the island if he wanted it badly enough. but in reality the gods would kill him before he ever had the chance. /shrug

I'd say that preboot the gods interference is a certainly. I mean lets face it they created the Amazons to have worshipers so the would continue to exist. Anything threatening the exisance of the Amazons is a huge threat to their existance also.

psycho gundam
See how Thor's spinning the mallet in the OP? That hits the island and it's gone

celeyhyga17
The Amazons have a choice.
Death or orgy.

riv6672
Originally posted by leonidas
again, i don't really know how different new themyscira is from the preboot version, but if thor were to ever really go after the island, i don't know that the amazons could stop him. they have access to magic, that's true, but i don't really recall them having any massively offensive weaponry. there are literally thousands of them and sheer numbers could get him i guess. his biggest danger would come from the gods who would almost certainly answer his challenge to the island. they are essentially the landlords of the place. if he attacked them, the gods would almost certainly step in to defend the island and together they would 100% kill thor. some would be a challenge 1 on 1 for him. without interference from the gods (or ww, obviously) he could probably take the island if he wanted it badly enough. but in reality the gods would kill him before he ever had the chance. /shrug
Lets go with no interference cuz, well, thats not what i'm asking. wink

panthergod
So..

Hypollyta
Troia
Wonder Girl
Artemis
Fury
And the Themysciran army?

Thor loses 8/10

StyleTime
Originally posted by cdtm
Hippolyta certainly is comparable. Beat up Hercules in fair combat, and even stood in as Wonder Woman for a time.
Stood in as Wonder Woman? Heck, she's beat Wonder Woman.
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Originally posted by panthergod
So..

Hypollyta
Troia
Wonder Girl
Artemis
Fury
And the Themysciran army?

Thor loses 8/10
Don't forget Circe. Additionally, the Amazons have arrows, swords, and other "God-made" weapons capable of piercing herald durability.

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In Supergirl's case, magic may have played a role, but it hurt Diana too. Equip Cassie, Donna and others with stuff like that, and Thor has his hands full. He really needs to open with big, exotic attacks, because a traditional fight plays into their hands.

And depending on how loose we're being with the term "Amazon", there's any number of female heroes who might be on the island training or somesuch. Supergirl, for example. That may be against the spirit of the thread though.

StyleTime
Also, all that assumes pre-boot continuity.

riv6672
^^^Jesus...stick out tongue
Post boot continuity for the island/Amazons.
No one one on the island who wouldnt normally be (I have pantherhod on ignore, but he doesnt get to add to the thread stips. This is about the rank & file, not heroes on heroes.).
Clasdic Thor, not Unworthy or Jane.

celeyhyga17
Thor can win this. He has ridiculous amounts of one-manning armies.

leonidas
Originally posted by StyleTime
Stood in as Wonder Woman? Heck, she's beat Wonder Woman.
https://postimg.org/image/5upvjot3f/
https://postimg.org/image/ahvxlgggb/
https://postimg.org/image/p2d0gabez/

Don't forget Circe. Additionally, the Amazons have arrows, swords, and other "God-made" weapons capable of piercing herald durability.

https://postimg.org/image/rvoewt6mv/
https://postimg.org/image/6ajc979w7/
https://postimg.org/image/5lvcmzz9b/
https://postimg.org/image/6co2ss1mn/

In Supergirl's case, magic may have played a role, but it hurt Diana too. Equip Cassie, Donna and others with stuff like that, and Thor has his hands full. He really needs to open with big, exotic attacks, because a traditional fight plays into their hands.

And depending on how loose we're being with the term "Amazon", there's any number of female heroes who might be on the island training or somesuch. Supergirl, for example. That may be against the spirit of the thread though.

too be fair, diana trounced her, pretty easily, later on and it's been shown a few times that diana is considerably more powerful than hippolytra. /shrug

the problem with the amazons is they are often not much more than fodder. that same amazon attacks arc had black canary handling them 1 on 1 at times and her scream ko'ing 4 at once. numbers could get thor i suppose, enough spears and arrows, but if he flies and blasts lightning or fully charges his hammer to level the island, there isn't really anything they could do to stop him, i don't think. i thought of circe too, but she wouldn't be very likely to help, and if the gods aren't allowed to interfere (though they would, in a comic, 100% of the time) then they don't have too much of a chance imo.

celeyhyga17
Even with Hippolyta, Donna Troy, Cassie, and Artemis, Thor can win.
The other Amazons will be fodder. He takes on huge armies with frequent regularity.

Damborgson
Yeah, arrows would probably pierce him, but when he splits the island in half and blows the chunks away...

cdtm
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah, arrows would probably pierce him, but when he splits the island in half and blows the chunks away...

Isn't it a magic island?

I mean, I don't know, maybe it is just a hunk of land, but always assumed it was magic like Olympus or Asgard, which Thor wouldn't destroy so easily..

StyleTime
Originally posted by leonidas
too be fair, diana trounced her, pretty easily, later on and it's been shown a few times that diana is considerably more powerful than hippolytra. /shrug

the problem with the amazons is they are often not much more than fodder. that same amazon attacks arc had black canary handling them 1 on 1 at times and her scream ko'ing 4 at once. numbers could get thor i suppose, enough spears and arrows, but if he flies and blasts lightning or fully charges his hammer to level the island, there isn't really anything they could do to stop him, i don't think. i thought of circe too, but she wouldn't be very likely to help, and if the gods aren't allowed to interfere (though they would, in a comic, 100% of the time) then they don't have too much of a chance imo.
Oh, I'm not claiming she's better than Diana. Just pointing out she's presented as more than typical background fodder.

I agree in general, but I was including the "important" Amazons. People like Hippolyta, Cassie, and Donna are logically pretty threatening with divine weapons. Back them up with Amazonian Legion support, and I stand by my original thoughts. He'd need to open with something big/exotic, as just coming down to brawl isn't the best plan.

Regardless, riv said this is current Themyscira. Doesn't sound like they have much of a shot.

leonidas
i def agree with the idea he couldn't brawl and win. he'd be overwhelmed in a hurry. he'd need to go big, but assuming he knows that, i don't think they could do much to stop him if he were really serious about ending them.

Damborgson
Originally posted by cdtm
Isn't it a magic island?

I mean, I don't know, maybe it is just a hunk of land, but always assumed it was magic like Olympus or Asgard, which Thor wouldn't destroy so easily..

You could be right and it wouldn't be easy at all but Thor's got some serious striking power when he lets that hammer fly.

riv6672
Originally posted by cdtm
Isn't it a magic island?

I mean, I don't know, maybe it is just a hunk of land, but always assumed it was magic like Olympus or Asgard, which Thor wouldn't destroy so easily..
I always thought that too. The being magic part.

abhilegend
Ares is on Themyscira right now. If he is unleashed Thor will be ****ed.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by StyleTime
Stood in as Wonder Woman? Heck, she's beat Wonder Woman.
https://postimg.org/image/5upvjot3f/
https://postimg.org/image/ahvxlgggb/
https://postimg.org/image/p2d0gabez/

Don't forget Circe. Additionally, the Amazons have arrows, swords, and other "God-made" weapons capable of piercing herald durability.

https://postimg.org/image/rvoewt6mv/
https://postimg.org/image/6ajc979w7/
https://postimg.org/image/5lvcmzz9b/
https://postimg.org/image/6co2ss1mn/

In Supergirl's case, magic may have played a role, but it hurt Diana too. Equip Cassie, Donna and others with stuff like that, and Thor has his hands full. He really needs to open with big, exotic attacks, because a traditional fight plays into their hands.

And depending on how loose we're being with the term "Amazon", there's any number of female heroes who might be on the island training or somesuch. Supergirl, for example. That may be against the spirit of the thread though.

Supergirl wears such obnoxious pants under her skirt?

Thanks for ruining comics for me, ass uhuh

riv6672
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ares is on Themyscira...right now
Feel free to start an Ares/Thor thread, which would actually be kinda fun to read!

Not what i'm asking. stick out tongue

Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Supergirl wears such obnoxious pants under her skirt?

Thanks for ruining comics for me, ass uhuh

I'm sure a Rule 34 Google search on Supergirl could fix that for you.

riv6672
Oh it could. Or so i've heard.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by leonidas
i def agree with the idea he couldn't brawl and win. he'd be overwhelmed in a hurry. he'd need to go big, but assuming he knows that, i don't think they could do much to stop him if he were really serious about ending them.
Going big is best and easiest, but he's been one manning armies for many a millenia. A serious Thor should be able to plow through these wenches.

Along with Warriors Three, he fought all the gathered warriors of Hel for 40 days and 40 nights without food, without drink, without sleep. For 40 more days he fought them alone and won!
http://i.imgur.com/p2YjlEvm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hMQeWXCm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KAO9wv8s.jpg]

He has a bunch of similar or better showings against other armies btw.

StiltmanFTW
fix the last scan, peon

edit: nvm, zooming in fixed it

riv6672
Thats pretty impressive! Much thanks, Celeyhyga17.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by riv6672
Thats pretty impressive! Much thanks, Celeyhyga17.
Yw... I guess.
embarrasment

Who's allowed for the Amazons anyway?

StyleTime
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Supergirl wears such obnoxious pants under her skirt?

Thanks for ruining comics for me, ass uhuh
Hey, they could have had her cape covering even that. Be grateful!

riv6672
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yw... I guess.
embarrasment

Who's allowed for the Amazons anyway?
Just the Queen and the Amazons.

celeyhyga17
Uhhh.... embarrasment
Then it's a massacre. Well either that or you'll have a population of seeded Amazons on your hand.

leonidas
"seeded". i lol'd

celeyhyga17
If I said RAPED , people may take issue with it.
sad

riv6672
Thor would NEVER do that. HE might be the one in trouble, really....eek!

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