Hell? Does God Send GOOD People to Hell?

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The TRUTH is people send THEMSELVES to Hell for REBELLING against God, and REJECTING the Lord Jesus Christ (God's ONLY plan of salvation to keep you out of Hell).

Emperordmb
I'm gonna stick with no. I'm gonna go ahead and stay with nobody goes to hell.

Patient_Leech
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Beniboybling
DMB in D-enial.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm gonna stick with no. I'm gonna go ahead and stay with nobody goes to hell. Not with that attitude.

Surtur
"Good" is a point of view. God's opinions on what merits being "bad" can tend to edge on the side of crazy. Like keeping holy the sabbath day. At one point that was some serious shit that needed to be done and could apparently carry a punishment of death if you failed. So you'd die if you worked on a Sunday. Or I guess you could work on a Sunday, but you'd need to not work for at least one day a week.

I don't know if God told people this or if some Christians decided it was the thing to do. But I do not recall God telling them "Yeah, quit that shit out".

Look at when God has destroyed cities for being too evil. Does this mean literally every single person was some baby murdering rapist? Were there varying levels of evil in the places he nuked? Was there some guy who gets off on stealing getting atomized?

Actually that is an interesting question: how does God define "evil" ? Murderers? Rapists? People who don't believe in him?

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Originally posted by Surtur
"Good" is a point of view. God's opinions on what merits being "bad" can tend to edge on the side of crazy. Like keeping holy the sabbath day. At one point that was some serious shit that needed to be done and could apparently carry a punishment of death if you failed. So you'd die if you worked on a Sunday. Or I guess you could work on a Sunday, but you'd need to not work for at least one day a week.

I don't know if God told people this or if some Christians decided it was the thing to do. But I do not recall God telling them "Yeah, quit that shit out".

Look at when God has destroyed cities for being too evil. Does this mean literally every single person was some baby murdering rapist? Were there varying levels of evil in the places he nuked? Was there some guy who gets off on stealing getting atomized?

Actually that is an interesting question: how does God define "evil" ? Murderers? Rapists? People who don't believe in him?

God defines evil as violating your CONSCIENCE, and you are called SINNERS. In addition, ALL rebellion against God and His Will/Word is evil

But if you do not KNOW Jesus, you are a SINNER.

That is what God calls you.

JesusLovesYou
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm gonna stick with no. I'm gonna go ahead and stay with nobody goes to hell.

Actually, the OPPOSITE is true. The MAJORITY of people on Earth are going to Hell.

Just look at the adjectives that the Lord Jesus uses in reference to those going to Hell (or destruction). Words like BROAD, WIDE, and MANY.

But the words He uses in reference to those going to Heaven (or life), are words like STRAIT, NARROW, and FEW.



The Lord Jesus said,



Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE is the gate, and BROAD is the way, that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto LIFE, and FEW there be that find it.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by JesusLovesYou
Actually, the OPPOSITE is true. The MAJORITY of people on Earth are going to Hell.

So omnipotent, all-knowing, all-'good' god and son and holy ghost decide that because people he/they made don't believe in him when he doesn't make his existence objectively known to all, they should go to a place of eternal torment. Including individuals like the mentally disabled, babies and infants who died before learning about the invisible sky killer, and tribes out in the Pacific who never found missionaries in time.

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Are these the strictest terms, given that the book (which is a compilation of Christian tales edited by a few people well after Christ died and excluded perhaps dozens of other gospels) was translated from many languages which do not share the same, precise meanings as ours in all cases? Such as Latin, Greek, Coptic, etc.?

Or did you think that Jesus wrote this in English first? That would make a lot of sense, seeing as he's going out of his way to save only a few people. What an *******.

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Yes, these are the strictest terms (whatever that means).



You see, the New Testament (specifically the book of Matthew in this discussion) was written in Greek, so it wouldn’t be difficult for you to find out what the actually terms were.



Here, I’ve even done it for you.


The Greek word translated strait in Matthew 7:13 is Stenos (ste-no's).



Strait
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4728&t=KJV



The Greek word translated wide in Matthew 7:13 is Platys (plä-tü's).



Wide
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4116&t=KJV



The Greek word translated broad in Matthew 7:13 is Eurychōros (yü-rü'-khō-ros).



Broad
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2149&t=KJV



The Greek word translated destruction in Matthew 7:13 is apōleia (ä-pō'-lā-ä).



Destruction
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G684&t=KJV


The Greek word translated many in Matthew 7:13 is polys (po-lü's).



Many
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4183&t=KJV



The Greek word translated narrow in Matthew 7:14 is thlibō (thlē'-bō).



Narrow
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2346&t=KJV



The Greek word translated life in Matthew 7:14 is zōē (zō-ā').



Life
Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2222&t=KJV



Few

Click https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3641&t=KJV



The Greek word translated few in Matthew 7:14 is oligos (o-lē'-gos).



So based on the original Greek (that the New Testament of the Bible was translated from/written in), it is clear that the Lord Jesus meant what He said. The MAJORITY of people on Earth are going to Hell, and a MINORITY of people on Earth are going to Heaven.







The Lord Jesus never wrote anything in English. You see, the Lord Jesus did NOT physically write, or pen the Book of Matthew. It is not certain who wrote the Book of Matthew, but circumstantial evidence points to Matthew (one of the disciples/apostles of the Lord Jesus).



I quote,



“From all the details considered with the internal evidence (one who is thoroughly Jewish in scope of the messages presented by Jesus, one who focuses on the prophetic fulfillment of Jesus, one who focuses on the ministry of Jesus to Jews, and one who focuses on financial matters especially in the area of taxes), Matthew best fits as the author of the First Gospel. Matthew was a tax collector before accepting Jesus as Savior and his role as an apostle. Thus, Matthew’s knowledge of shorthand to take notes as well as finances would far excel most others.”
Quote source: http://crossexamined.org/wrote-gospel-matthew/



Now, concerning your remark that,








NOTHING could be FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. The Lord Jesus died for THE WORLD. It is NOT His fault that a MAJORITY of people REBEL against His love, mercy, and grace. It is NOT His fault that a MAJORITY of people CHOOSE to REJECT Him. It is NOT His fault that a MAJORITY of people DON’T WANT anything to do with Him (INCLUDING YOU, and a MAJORITY of people on this forum). So DON’T blame Him if a MAJORITY of people lift their eyes in TORMENTS in Hell. It is YOUR choice to do so, NOT His because He died to KEEP YOU OUT of Hell. He who has EARS TO HEAR, let him or her HEAR.



Do you follow me?

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Stealth Moose
"You're wrong."

*Quotes Bible for everything*

*Random use of capital letters to emphasize TROOTH*

*Massive spam-like replies with varied URLs that confirm the original point with circular logic*

Brilliant technique.

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Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
"You're wrong."

*Quotes Bible for everything*

*Random use of capital letters to emphasize TROOTH*

*Massive spam-like replies with varied URLs that confirm the original point with circular logic*

Brilliant technique.

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Exactly, you can't reason with that kind of illogic.

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Adam_PoE
Do you have Autism?

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Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
then the Silmarillion proves that elves exist. Talking like I'm not right here. Ainudamned mortals.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
The Bible itself isn't authoritative simply because it exists. If this is the only requirement to substantiate a universal truth, then the Silmarillion proves that elves exist.

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Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Talking like I'm not right here. Ainudamned mortals.

Probably a damn kinslayer.

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