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ROTS Yoda vs a healthy shown prime Caedus
Sabers only with aug
Force only
All out
Starting distance 10 meters
Neutral ground
Morals on

Been done; Yoda sweeps.

Yoda. There is a fight. But it's not close.

Either way

Originally posted by Greysentinel365
Yoda. There is a fight. But it's not close. this

Originally posted by MythLord
Been done; Yoda sweeps.
Some think differently. Including me.

Yoda wins every round, everytime.
Originally posted by Azronger
Either way
Wut? Reasons?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yoda wins every round, everytime.

Wut? Reasons?

Luke said Caedus could match him with a blade, and his command of the Force has been stated to surpass Vader's. Note how it doesn't specify suited Vader, so Knightfall is fair game.

Okay, quite honestly, what puts Luke above Yoda in dueling?

Originally posted by Greysentinel365
Yoda. There is a fight. But it's not close.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Okay, quite honestly, what puts Luke above Yoda in dueling?

A better question - what puts Luke above Yoda, period?

Plays out similarly to Luke vs Caedus. Caedus gives a decent challenge, but Yoda is ultimately just too far ahead of him for Caedus to stand any realistic chance of winning.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
A better question - what puts Luke above Yoda, period?

Beating Palpatine, probably. Lol.

Originally posted by Azronger
Luke said Caedus could match him with a blade and his command of the Force has been stated to surpass Vader's. Note how it doesn't specify suited Vader, so Knightfall is fair game.

And Novel blurbs are fair game to disregard entirely. Yoda stomps.

With circumstances galore, yeah.

Luke was amped to his eye-balls, and Palpatine was weakened significantly.

Ninja'd.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
With circumstances galore, yeah.

Luke was amped to his eye-balls, and Palpatine was weakened significantly.

And NJO Luke is canonically stronger than his amped DE counterpart, yeah.

Quote for Palpatine being weakened significantly? Hope you're not referring to Leia's elementary Battle Meditation.

Not really? lmao. DE Luke wasn't just using his power, but he was using the combined energies of his sister and Anakin's, too - if you're referring to that FH bit.



Yeah, pretty sure "elementary battle meditation" wouldn't be capable of, per yourself, unlocking Luke's potential, yet have no effect on Palpatine whatsoever - that's shit logic that even you wouldn't adhere to.


To be fair, I'm honestly not sure if Force Harmony or BM was used to defeat Sidious durng the duel, but we know for certain he didin't do it alone, as sources have pointed out:


-- The Essential Guide to the Force.

Yoda

Yoda wins definately not easily tho.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Not really? lmao. DE Luke wasn't just using his power, but he was using the combined energies of his sister and Anakin's, too - if you're referring to that FH bit.

No, I am referring to his unlocked potential, which is entirely Luke's own reserves of power. NJO Luke > Potential unlocked DE Luke > DE Luke



Indeed, so logic dictates the BM didn't unlock anything in Luke, yet it was something else. Which is further supported by the comic itself, when Leia continued to unlock Luke's potential even more even though she wasn't even focusing on him, after he had already beaten Palpatine.



BM was, but that was irrelevant.



Thanks for the quote. But obviously he couldn't defeat Palpatine by himself - that much was made clear from the comic itself. He needed Leia there to unlock his potential so that he could match the Emperor head-on, but the power he wielded was entirely his own (besides a negligible BM amp).

Yoda in a fight similar to Yoda vs Dooku.

Yes Caedus was Luke's match. 10 pages earlier so were 2 YVH droids.

Then let's add that the context of the statement was in terms of who was going to fight who.

Then let's add that the problem was that said YVH droids were going to kill Ben in seconds leaving Luke with them and Caedus to deal with.

Again, ten pages earlier Luke was nearly overwhelmed by just two of them.

You'll forgive me for not taking the statement to heart

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
-- The Essential Guide to the Force.

Why even quote this? Are you aware that Luke grew significantly after his fight with Sidious? Like, 30+ novels worth of growth at least. If you'll do this, why not just use Luke's skill while he was living with his aunt and uncle, and pretend they're relevant?