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D from the self named series

vs

Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star


Both get all feats and powers.

Fight takes place at the Valley of the End

From what I've read/heard of D, he is FTL and would easily blitz and kill Kenshiro.

Originally posted by Solid47
From what I've read/heard of D, he is FTL and would easily blitz and kill Kenshiro.

FTL by quite a bit. And he has sooooo many hax abilities.

D can't counter the Musou Tensei.

Kenshiro stomps.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
D can't counter the Musou Tensei.

Kenshiro stomps.

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Originally posted by RealityWarper
D can't counter the Musou Tensei.

Kenshiro stomps.

D can instantly learn the Musou Tensei and be better and more creative with it than Kenshiro.

Also if it even gets that far, D is literally several times faster than light speed. He could attack before Kenshiro registers a thought.

Originally posted by KingD19
D can instantly learn the Musou Tensei and be better and more creative with it than Kenshiro.

Also if it even gets that far, D is literally several times faster than light speed. He could attack before Kenshiro registers a thought.

Don't bother arguing with him king, in his world muso tensei can defeat anything.

like in my thread, he said that muso tensei can bypass a powerful curse that
even Dr. Strange himself can't reverse.

He didn't even explain how will muso tensei negates the curse, he's just asserting it w/o any concrete proof.

and there's the life force thing technique that kenshiro uses to manipulate the ki/life-force of an individual, again asserting it as way to negate the curse w/o any concrete proof the it can negate a curse powered by rune magic

I read. It's the reason I made this thread.

D has been shown and said to move several times FTL, several times through all the books. He's too fast for Ken to even do anything despite what Reality says.

On the off chance Ken does actually get to act, D can instantly learn Musuo Tensei, and is automatically more skilled at it than Ken.

On top of that, he can cut through death/life energy itself, as well as reality. He's even immune to the Akashic Records, meaning he is immune to any form of tampering with his life.

ALso he's got Left Hand/Carbuncle who can absorb anything and heal D from anything, if D doesn't heal himself, which he has healed from some ridiculous stuff.

I know Reality is still gonna argue for Ken, but it'll be trolling.

Reality is already trolling, i doubt he knows who D is.

in his mind kenshiro stomps even though its the opposite.

Originally posted by 950Killer
Don't bother arguing with him king, in his world muso tensei can defeat anything.

like in my thread, he said that muso tensei can bypass a powerful curse that
even Dr. Strange himself can't reverse.

He didn't even explain how will muso tensei negates the curse, he's just asserting it w/o any concrete proof.


I have never said that the Musou Tensei negate the Curse.

Read my arguments again so your reading skills doesn't look like the one of a five years old.



You are trying to make some special pleading for Harald without proofs that he can counter Kenshiro siphoning his life-force. Nice try though.

Negating the curse isn't necessary to destroy Harald in that case neither.

D stole someone's power right in front of them and then Left Hand commented on it. So as long as someone possesses an ability, D can use it as his own and be more efficient.

I said all of D's feats are available, meaning his Light Novel feats account as well. And multiple of those are him reacting to things moving at Lightspeed and he himself moving faster than it. Like slicing a lightning bolt in half. Or blocking a laser from Mars that hit only seconds after it fired. Or dodging around and outfighting a guy who could swing his staff at lightspeed.

As well as his manipulation of the Akashic Records, being able to slice through reality itself, ignoring laws of physics and nature, etc...


I love how you say Musou Tensei is unbeatable and add rules and stipulations to other mediums because of what it says in it's own, yet ignore other mediums to make Musou seem better.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have never said that the Musou Tensei negate the Curse.

Read my arguments again so your reading skills doesn't look like the one of a five years old.



You are trying to make some special pleading for Harald without proofs that he can counter Kenshiro siphoning his life-force. Nice try though.

Negating the curse isn't necessary to destroy Harald in that case neither.


I've read your arguments, the flow was muso tensei will hurt them, thus bypassing/negating the curse, so the question is, how? you never showed me single shred of proof that muso tensei can bypass/negate the curse

second, i'm not arguing whether kenshiro's life siphon techniques will going to work or not, the whole point was that even though kenshiro will use those techniques, it won't matter because the curse will be still in effect.

read the comic again, Dr. Strange recruited 3 warriors from the different time periods who descended from the shaman who cursed harald, because those 3 are the only ones that can kill those undead vikings, Thor learned this the hard way.

and don't go again with characters like odin, sentry , molecule man etc. because these characters have abilites/magic/powers to instantly negate the curse.


lastly, provide a concrete proof that hokuto no shinken can bypass/negate the curse.

king you're right, he's definitely trolling

Originally posted by KingD19
D stole someone's power right in front of them and then Left Hand commented on it. So as long as someone possesses an ability, D can use it as his own and be more efficient.

D never stole a power...

He copied a swordplay move...

https://s8.postimg.org/bez1l3g45/DCopy_Swordplay_VHDvol15p134.jpg

This doesn't make able to copy Kenshiro's techniques.

D ability is similar to Taskmaster.



That's clearly not what is happening in the novels, at least clearly not the context that you are trying to create. Hilarious.

You can't even comprehend that D just copied a swordplay move and you want it to "D can copy Kenshiro's abilities and be better at it tham him" XD

Rofl.

Guess what, D isn't more powerful in the novels than in the mangas and in the anime.










D has nothing to counter the Musou Tensei. That's a fact.



Originally posted by 950Killer
I've read your arguments, the flow was muso tensei will hurt them, thus bypassing/negating the curse, so the question is, how? you never showed me single shred of proof that muso tensei can bypass/negate the curse

second, i'm not arguing whether kenshiro's life siphon techniques will going to work or not, the whole point was that even though kenshiro will use those techniques, it won't matter because the curse will be still in effect.




read the comic again

Dr. Strange recruited 3 warriors from the different time periods who descended from the shaman who cursed harald, because those 3 are the only ones that can kill those undead vikings, Thor learned this the hard way.

and don't go again with characters like odin, sentry , molecule man etc. because these characters have abilites/magic/powers to instantly negate the curse.


lastly, provide a concrete proof that hokuto no shinken can bypass/negate the curse.


I will not make a double post just because you can't handle D being ass kicked in that thread.

Stop diverting the debate to another topic.

I am already responding to your baseless claims in the other thread and you failed to provide what I asked/

Originally posted by 950Killer
king you're right, he's definitely trolling



More salt please

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I will not make a double post just because you can't handle D being ass kicked in that thread.

Stop diverting the debate to another topic.

I am already responding to your baseless claims in the other thread and you failed to provide what I asked


Ok, no proof

so yeah Harald & Co. shitstomps kenshiro

Originally posted by 950Killer
Ok, no proof

so yeah Harald & Co. shitstomps kenshiro

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