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volthoom -
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120679/3066965-2013-05-22+07-48-15+-+green+lantern+%282011-%29+020-034.jpg

v.s.

abraxas -
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28028/675287-the_valley_of_galactus.jpg

Volthoom wasn't really that impressive for a cosmic being.

Volthoom, hand of creation wins.

Volthoom 10/10

Originally posted by Zack M
Volthoom, hand of creation wins. but wasnt abraxas causing universes to collapse just by approaching them??

Yes.

One entity collapsed multiverses. The other threatened Hal.

And Volthoom was getting injured by base Sinestro, before he even went Parallax.

Peak Volthoom wins, imo.

On a sidenote: I wonder if Volthoom could tap-into Abraxas' wellspring of destructive energies as well..? mmm

where is that sig and avy from??

It's Nomax from a 6 issue mini called Annihilator -- Grant Morrison wrote it a few years back.

Mindf*ck of a read... I love it.

Abraxas

Originally posted by Galan007
It's Nomax from a 6 issue mini called Annihilator -- Grant Morrison wrote it a few years back.

Mindf*ck of a read... I love it.

huh, will check it out.

Abraxas.

Volthoom.

WHY does volthoom win? how in the world can he beat abraxas?

What did Abraxas even do before I try to argue against him?

Peak Volthoom would win.

volthoom

funny i made this thread before i had really researched abraxas.

once again he is a tremendously overrated marvel character. volthoom would stomp him.

Abraxas >>> embodiment of the entire Multiversal Space-Time Continuum ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Abraxas >>> embodiment of the entire Multiversal Space-Time Continuum ...

Voltroom was retcon into being the hand that Anti Monitor saw at the EOT crisis.

Originally posted by SquallX
Voltroom was retcon into being the hand that Anti Monitor saw at the EOT crisis. what?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
what? Originally posted by Galan007
Godhead #1 established that Volthoom became the proverbial 'Hand of Creation', which spawned the original multiverse(along with it's higher-dimensional spheres/realms):
http://i.imgur.com/Kz8n3fd.jpg

*Note that the Hand is wearing a GL ring on its right middle finger.



Here is a more thorough breakdown...


Volthoom was first shown in this capacity right after the Guardians originally witnessed the 'Hand of Creation' whilst peering back into the dawn of time... But upon closer inspection, they noticed that it was wearing a GL ring:
http://i.imgur.com/x85f4Gv.jpg
*Note the GL ring on the middle finger of a right hand.

Full scene:
http://i.imgur.com/cOpIggY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dMp3DG7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lVeoFO4.jpg

In a nutshell: the Guardians witnessed this Hand birthing creation, noted that is was wearing a GL ring, their instrumentation inextricably shattered, and *poof* Volthoom(in his original/human form) arrived. He then taught the Guardians of the emotional spectrum and convinced them to purge ALL of their emotions -- thereby creating the First Lantern/Ring(and empowering himself) by proxy:
http://i.imgur.com/0w07Crs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9ZwPru3.jpg

Coincidence? Hardly.


We later learned that peak Volthoom had harnessed the power of the emotional spectrum with the intent of "unwinding the fabric of history" for his own purposes:
http://i.imgur.com/c2ciIoU.jpg


Volthoom then literally pulled the first(and barnone most powerful) GL ring from inside of Ganthet:
http://i.imgur.com/o19k08w.jpg
*Note that he places the ring on the middle finger of his right hand.


This panel makes it clearer to see the ring's placement:
http://i.imgur.com/SPwbVkn.jpg
*Again: Middle finger. Right hand.


Why is this important? Because when Volthoom used Hal as a focal point to gain access to the dawn of time, he began unraveling ALL history, starting at the beginning... He became the Hand of Creation:
http://i.imgur.com/6yWuov8.jpg
*Note the GL ring on the middle finger of his right hand.

Full scene:
http://i.imgur.com/Bawjtq8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HHXgPoY.jpg


How do I know Volthoom was *actually* collapsing/altering the entire timestream? Because WL Kyle could literally feel it happening:
http://i.imgur.com/lAG22w1.jpg


And as mentioned above, Volthoom's hand was featured again in Godhead #1, and described as the force that originally spawned the entire multiverse, as well as the Old(and New) Gods:
http://i.imgur.com/OvgYg3k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cQGHFHq.jpg
*Note a ring on the middle finger of a right hand.


So yeah...

*Though it's worth noting that the existence of Perpetua has subsequently retconned that origin.

Originally posted by SquallX
Voltroom was retcon into being the hand that Anti Monitor saw at the EOT crisis.


isnt this supposed to be retconned from recent events?