Doomsday vs Sebastian Shaw

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maxivitopowe
They have no Idea what the others powers are

All the strengths, none of the weaknesses

Fight in rural Maine

No bfr

John Murdoch
I see one of two possible outcomes:

1. Doomsday immediately attacks Shaw, whose energy absorption is overpowered by Doomsday's Krypto-level strength and power, and Shaw is killed.

2. Shaw and Doomsday go back-and-forth in a stalemate of power absorption and release until rural Maine - and the entire Earth - is destroyed.

TethAdamTheRock
In part 2 if shaw saves 2 or more hits he wins

maxivitopowe
Shaw never showed any signs of being overwhelmed

Psychotron
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Shaw never showed any signs of being overwhelmed

Isn't that a no-limits fallacy?

Placidity
Originally posted by John Murdoch

2. Shaw and Doomsday go back-and-forth in a stalemate of power absorption and release until rural Maine - and the entire Earth - is destroyed.

DD can survive in space, Shaw cannot.

maxivitopowe
Neither did DD

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by Placidity
DD can survive in space, Shaw cannot. There's no proof for either of those statements.

And if a nuclear reactor couldn't overwhelm Shaw, why would Doomsy?

KingD19
Shaw was slowly absorbing the reactor at his own pace. He wouldn't have that luxury with Doomsday who would be hitting him with Superman+ punches further magnified by his speed and super heat vision back to back to back to back.

Psychotron
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
There's no proof for either of those statements.

Can Shaw breathe in space? Doomsday is, presumably, still at least partially powered by the sun.

Robtard
Shaw rips DD in half. Into two lame smaller pieces.

playa1258
DD throws Shaw into space.

relentless1
lol DD smashes Shaw repeatedly until he either explodes from energy overload or gets turned into red mist by the power of the blows alone

Silent Master
Aren't you the same guy that said Zod could destroy the Earth with his punches?

Placidity
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
There's no proof for either of those statements.


There is evidence.

1. Why do you assume Shaw doesn't need to breathe?

2. Doomsday / Kryptonians have fought/survived in space.

Do you have any counter evidence that would cause you to believe the opposite is more likely true?

maxivitopowe
Originally posted by Placidity
There is evidence.

1. Why do you assume Shaw doesn't need to breathe?

2. Doomsday / Kryptonians have fought/survived in space.

Do you have any counter evidence that would cause you to believe the opposite is more likely true?

Supes almost died and DD was blasted back to but neither actually spent any time out of earths atmosphere

Placidity
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Supes almost died and DD was blasted back to but neither actually spent any time out of earths atmosphere

1. Do you think Superman almost died because of the Nuke, or because he couldn't breathe?

2. Do you think Superman was holding his breath the whole time when flying Doomsday towards space?

3. Do you think Superman was holding his breath when fighting Zod near outer space?

4. Do you think there is breathable air in the outer layers of the atmosphere? (Hint - there isn't). If not, what is your point?

5. Did you know comics Superman can survive in space? I know that doesn't automatically mean movie Superman can too, but just want to know what lengths you will go to to be disingenuous.

6. Different version of Supes, but would you say he is holding his breath in the scene below?

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playa1258
It's confirmed DCEU Superman can survive in space.

I mean he seemed so close to dying in MOS when he flew out of the Kryptonian ship to rescue Lois.

DCEU Superman at minimum can survive without air for prolonged periods of time.

K-Dog
Would be awesome to see someone make a five minute film of a battle between these two. Going to give it to doomsday, barely. He has better energy output feats, and he survived a direct nuke hit. He knocked Superman around like a red headed step child, then casually stabbed him to death. So he has the better feats. It would be an epic battle for environmental destruction for sure. Shaw Took a full force hit from a steel beam by magneto at close range, and casually absorbed it. That had to be a kryptonian level punch. But he does not have enough feats to beat doomsday. He may be able to take a direct hit from a nuke. Who knows. At one point when he was absorbing the nuclear reactor, they showed the power gauge dropping very quickly, so he may of been able to absorb that as fast as it was able to put the radiation out. We really don't know.

NemeBro
Doomsday does put out far more energy than Shaw was ever shown as capable of absorbing in a short time frame, so one could make the argument that Shaw's vastly inferior showings shouldn't give him the win here.

TheVaultDweller
I would back Doomsday, as things stand. Shaw absorbed the energy from the reactor very slowly. Only things I can recall him absorbing rapidly were some bullets, a grenade, and one of Havok's energy rings, and none of those are comparable to Doomsday's power output.

relentless1
on top of Shaw not being shown taking the amount of energy that DD would put out but DD absorbs energy in a superior way to Shaw as well, the only reason he died at all was due to K; everything he got hit with, including powerhouses like Superman and Wonder Woman only served to make his body stronger and deadlier

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